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Kangal 2010-10-14 11:12

Re: Toshiba Folio 100
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ysss (Post 840638)
@kangal: Have you handled any of the tablets? I'd recommend making a cardboard analog of one, if you haven't... because I think you will find that most new tablets will come with similarly sized bezels for usability reason.

Either that or they'll come with a handle area somewhere (keyboard bottoms, whatnot).

@ysss yes I've handled several including the iPad, 10.1" ones and 7" ones. It is hard to describe in words but that bezel makes a lot of difference. It is there for the user to grab the tablet but it really isn't necessary on the lanscape (long sides) for 10"+ tablets because it gets difficult to hold with a single hand. I have extra large hands/fingers so I can still grip it one-handed. But even I don't need all that flush space, it just eats up space.

I've tried that shockingly dodgy ePad (iPad clone with Android, fully cheap plastic and comes with an Internet Explorer icon on the box, lol), and that is a 7 incher where the bezel is 1.5inch on each side. I compared it to another Android 7" tablet (Huwei something) which had about 1cm on the lanscape sides and 2cm on the portrait sides. Both were easy to hold/grip, but the ePad was notably larger when you stow it in the inside pocket of your jacket (yeah I'm a guy, go figure). The pocket was just large enough for both but since the ePad was slightly taller, I could feel the upper side on my axilla as I walked. Not a comfortable feeling after 10mins I tell you, and with the other tablet I didn't have this brushing, and I even forgot I had it on me for a moment.

Well fyc, here's a little picture of how they could've shaved the bezel:
http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/9336/bezel.jpg

Note: the top is the original Folio 100, the bottom image has been edited, but the screen size are the same on both images despite the bottom one looking much smaller = because it is when you trim off the bezel.

rash.m2k 2010-10-14 11:39

Re: Toshiba Folio 100
 
Needs to have meego on it - Android does not have full Java support, meego probably will.

Plus meego is fully open and apps are native android is not.

railroadmaster 2010-10-14 23:22

Re: Toshiba Folio 100
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rash.m2k (Post 840822)
Needs to have meego on it - Android does not have full Java support, meego probably will.

Plus meego is fully open and apps are native android is not.

Well there is Java Me support for Android. Android is also fully open source. What is closed source on Android is the software that is installed by manufacturers and MeeGo will be the same. If you need to develop apps natively for Android you can use the NDK http://developer.android.com/sdk/ndk/index.html. I wonder does the MeeGo tablet UX run on ARM?

wmarone 2010-10-15 00:33

Re: Toshiba Folio 100
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by railroadmaster (Post 841455)
If you need to develop apps natively for Android you can use the NDK http://developer.android.com/sdk/ndk/index.html.

You still run into the problem that the libc and toolkits Android use are unique to Android, never mind going through JNI.

Quote:

I wonder does the MeeGo tablet UX run on ARM?
No reason it can't, seeing as how MeeGo is supposed to be architecture independent.

railroadmaster 2010-10-15 01:19

Re: Toshiba Folio 100
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wmarone (Post 841487)
You still run into the problem that the libc and toolkits Android use are unique to Android, never mind going through JNI.


No reason it can't, seeing as how MeeGo is supposed to be architecture independent.

Well thanks for informing me on that.

skatebiker 2010-10-15 07:36

Re: Toshiba Folio 100
 
What about Bluetooth :
- connecting to an external GPS
- connecting to a 3G phone ?

railroadmaster 2010-10-16 00:28

Re: Toshiba Folio 100
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by skatebiker (Post 841681)
What about Bluetooth :
- connecting to an external GPS
- connecting to a 3G phone ?

I heard this might have GPS built in but you should also be able to connect via bluetooth. Well this thing should be able to tether phones over bluetooth however if the functionality isn't there you could find an app.

railroadmaster 2010-10-16 00:31

Re: Toshiba Folio 100
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 2disbetter (Post 840643)
I agree a andriod tablet is not news. Toshiba did just do something ground breaking though, it's called:

Toshiba Libretto W105.

I got one, and while it's not for the everyday user, I find it to be an extremely useful and powerful UMPC.

2d

Yes the Libretto is cool but it costs you an arm and a leg (not literally). So I think it is worth it to spend less money on something else.

Kangal 2010-10-16 04:57

Re: Toshiba Folio 100
 
^the Toshiba Libretto W105.

Just read several reviews, I would say it was a bad attempt at a good idea, and in my book that isn't something worthy of ground-breaking title.

I really didn't think it is for the everyday user, and I think everyone (everyday users and tinkeres) would benefit much more with a new-model Eee PC (portability, quality, versatility and if you have to factor it: price).

However, if Toshiba actually manages to make the Folio 100 as good in real life as it is on-paper... then I think it would be worthy of "ground-breaking". Seriously, there are so many potential iPad killers that always lack one or more feature/attribute, that it becomes ridiculously disappointing. If there is one to emerge, it then is "ground breaking", and I'm keeping my hopes up that this will be it........unless I see something better that is ;)

ericsson 2010-10-16 06:41

Re: Toshiba Folio 100
 
There is only one tablet worth purchasing; WeTab. Runs on MeeGo :) An Android tab is really nothing compared with this.

http://wetab.mobi/files/We_Tab-140-Motiv_4-3_0.jpg


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