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NokTokDaddy 2010-11-18 07:19

Re: One BIG Difference between Maemo 5 and MeeGo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lunat (Post 876787)
whats about letting the individual user decide which windowmanager to use?
...

windowmanager?

Forgive my technical ignorance!

IMO nothing compares to the awesome customisation potential of Maemo5 right now.

I just hope this potential is facilitated on Meego.

Wikiwide 2010-11-18 07:21

Re: One BIG Difference between Maemo 5 and MeeGo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lanwellon (Post 876634)
After posting several posts here,

I feel that Maemo 5 is very advanced on many aspects.

More like a desktop OS.

What I see about MeeGo is that MeeGo came to look like Android/iPhone.

Symbian-3 could provide good portrait support even with widgets on the home screen. Because NOKIA orgnized the widgets as modules and limit the customization.

For Maemo 5, you can do more customization.

From the UI aspect, I find that MeeGo can provide better portrait support. Maemo cannot do this because in Maemo you can cusomize you

Maemo is one step ahead the iOS/Android.

iPhone/Android is still defined as a phone.

In Maemo, you can decide where to put the icon/widgets/contacts

on anywhere on the desktop.

NO OTHER OS CAN DO THIS ! !

I think NOKIA made this change based on the market research result. Maybe the result is that more than 90 percent customers like a phone, not a internet tablet like N900.

So Nokia decide to make MeeGo to be more like a phone OS.

But what I want to say is that as a phone OS, Android/iOS is several steps ahead. More apps, more developers.

The points you made about MeeGo, concern only this one reference handset UX. You can make your own user experience, with your own window manager, desktop, applications.

MeeGo Core OS includes:
drivers;
Qt.
They are essential.

All design is inside UX and can be replaced with another UX.

lunat 2010-11-18 07:41

Re: One BIG Difference between Maemo 5 and MeeGo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wikiwide (Post 876796)
You can make your own user experience, with your own window manager, desktop, applications.
.

this is what i ment.
windowmanger: the program that is responsible for placing your icons, windows, widgets, gadgets, menus, taskbars, slits and so on on the screen.
choose one:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compari...indow_managers
and any environment on top - if you want.
why not?

EDIT: find matchbox in the list and compare it with the others...

geneven 2010-11-18 07:46

Re: One BIG Difference between Maemo 5 and MeeGo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lunat (Post 876787)
whats about letting the individual user decide which windowmanager to use?
...

You sound like a candidate for Easy Debian. You should be able to use Kde, WindowMaker, and others.

lunat 2010-11-18 08:08

Re: One BIG Difference between Maemo 5 and MeeGo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by geneven (Post 876814)
You sound like a candidate for Easy Debian. You should be able to use Kde, WindowMaker, and others.

for instance. easy debian proofs the concept. thousands of other examples.
but why in easy debian? i do not like kde nor gnome(too bloated for my taste) but at least gnome runs on matchbox so you don't even need a different window manager for that.

don't fight about it! agree to disagree and just use what you like the best! and if you can't do it, you found where a distribution falls behind all the many others.

Tiptronic 2010-11-21 00:16

Re: One BIG Difference between Maemo 5 and MeeGo
 
Couldn't agree more, I hope the meego or the next phone (whatever OS it has) will still have the N900 'desktop'.

Its what I love the most about this phone. I have 10 tiny buttons in the bottom and a small menu + status button on the top corner, which make my phone as handy as it could get + my wallpaper is completely visible without any unnecessary button ruining the image. And the multitasking, the easiness of controlling everything is just.. Perfect! It really feels like just a normal computer, instead of phone with just some buttons on it.

Whatever Nokia does, I really hope they don't mess this up.

I really love this phone :D:D:D

SD69 2010-11-21 00:54

Re: One BIG Difference between Maemo 5 and MeeGo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tiptronic (Post 879111)
Couldn't agree more, I hope the meego or the next phone (whatever OS it has) will still have the N900 'desktop'.

Whatever Nokia does, I really hope they don't mess this up.

I really love this phone :D:D:D

You (and I) shouldn't have to resort to mere hope that the desktop will be good and that Nokia doesn't mess it up. We should be able to graft the Maemo UI that we want on top of the MeeGo OS.

To my mind, maemo.org should have as one of its goals to assist community members in using the "N900 desktop" (or N8x0 UI) on top of Nokia's next MeeGo device.

HellFlyer 2010-11-21 01:07

Re: One BIG Difference between Maemo 5 and MeeGo
 
So what's the BIG difference? :)

ericsson 2010-11-21 01:40

Re: One BIG Difference between Maemo 5 and MeeGo
 
I also fail to see the BIG difference. MeeGo from Nokia is bound to be almost exactly like Symbian. Symbian^3 is close to perfect regarding customization, more will not be better without some (yet unknown) radical changes in the whole structure.

NvyUs 2010-11-21 01:45

Re: One BIG Difference between Maemo 5 and MeeGo
 
its going to be nothing like symbian other than they both will use Qt.
Is Maemo anything like symbian?
Nokia are wanting to take the UX in MeeGo to a new level, why would they want to replicate what they already have and are on the verge of changing?
BTw if you want Maemo like UI on MeeGo you might just get it, i read Hildon was being ported.


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