Re: Why N900 failed on consumer market ?
 

The reason the n900 failed and by the way all nokia handhelds fail, is the lack of nokia listening to the people that are using it.

How many people allready asked about mms on the n900. how many people asked for flash 10 support on the n900?

yet still they dont give a ****. and are to busy building the shitty meego wich will go the same drain as maemo 5 does now.

We finaly have Ovi support after a year.... what the hell is that! Most consumers dont know how to go to root and install $hit to be able to do more. for these people there are 20 apps in the catalogue and a few more in the ovi store. wich cant be paid by telephone bill on the n900. so everyone who cant pay for it is downloading it from torrent. and i cant disagree with them!

Besides that the n900 has a terrible buggy alarm, and phone app. (still after PR1.3) and the media player widget (its really sad after so much updates) still doesnt work how it should!

Im not finished yet, the virtual keyboard doesnt work like it should. messing up text when editing.

Im not saying i hate my n900, im just saying that if we didn't had a community like this, the n900 would have really been a very sad device...

I just dont understand why nokia doesnt make wishes of consumers come true. I also dont understand why they are making a new system while the old one (maemo 5) wasnt even finished. If you ask me, it would be far better to optimize maemo 5 then starting from scratch, doing all these mistakes all over again.

Whats nokia doing...?

Re: Why N900 failed on consumer market ?
 

would be interesting to see how many they sold so far

Re: Why N900 failed on consumer market ?
 

I think that sums it up pretty well.

Re: Why N900 failed on consumer market ?
 

I guess one of the reasons is lack of good design: the iphones are simply well made in this regard. The other, and that might even be more important: for many, and to simply slip the fone into your pocket, it is just too heavy/clunky. I know this from personal conversation: someone wanting a fone like this, not mainstream, open and versatile, but the size/weight is the showstopper. I find this rather sad, cause at current prices the N900 are a great bargain.

Re: Why N900 failed on consumer market ?
 

no its not correct ,People did not accept Vista because it was total pants, not because it was one or two steps ahead

Re: Why N900 failed on consumer market ?
 

I am not sure what you are talking about, i have various repetitive alarms set on my N900 and it hasnt failed me even once. I dont think i can say that about my blackberry which has missed atleast 3 alarms, and certainly not comparable to the iPhone alarm which went t1t5 up at DST switchover...

Re: Why N900 failed on consumer market ?
 

I've been really impressed by it.
I was completely shocked when it powered on to wake me up after i'd forgotten to plug it in and let the battery drain overnight. Outstanding! Thanks to this, I still have a job!

Re: Why N900 failed on consumer market ?
 

Give them a break, they were just selling tyres to start with, and by chance they made *then* high-end, premium-priced cult phones loaded with symbian that no one else being proud of but themselves. Okay, they got some luck dominating the smartphone martket with this cult OS that nobody here gives a darn of, but still they were *just* making tyres so give them some chance to work things out right okay?
http://www.about-nokia.com/images/tyres.jpg

(joke intended *wink wink*)

Re: Why N900 failed on consumer market ?
 

sales data looks disappointing?Right.
http://captionsearch.com/image.php?id=296

Re: Why N900 failed on consumer market ?
 

linux on a phone is a huge step to make. so i am glad nokia tried it. nevertheless i think thats a step you have to do completly or not. halfways is imo hard.

what do i mean with that: what they do is take a unix and change half of the os to behave different. if you do that you get into the situation that all the software provided by others expecting the "normal" behavior gets broken. additionally devs of such software will not fix such problems for they go for standard behavior. so you don't have(or few) the devs that just port their app for the phone and the other way round the stuff created for the phone(even more so if it is propretary) will not get into a state to be used as a base for develepement.
and they did neither: create everything(which would be realy a lot to do) nor left the possibility to use somthing others created. and that leaves a gap.

i think they learned a little from their mistakes as i see quite a change in the behaviour now with meego. its a lot better. but still has the issue. its not a customization but a whole os. and if you do a whole os you are again bound to do that: the whole thing.

otherwise you had by now a lot of operating systems working on the phone for the user with all the software that comes with it. you had a customizable desktop and user who would use the look and feel they like by just installing it and would love it.
users could use just the application they wanted and would not require devs to rewrite sofware for a single phone, which they won't do not even support for its non standard. with all that you would see a phone which would beat every other phone in usability.

hardware: its a highend phone with highend core. but that stuff is put together in realy bad quality. the result is a device which is potentioally capable of a lot more than it is. result is a device that has issues in many usecases.

also it feels like they got into timepressure in the end and instead of postponing the release to finish it up, they just released a product with workarounds. at least it feels like that: started and planned great but in the end failed to really do it right(at first i thought: they replaced the capable folks who started it with incapable folks at some time - thats how it feels.).

sure it's a big step to make and well don't mourn: it's at least a start.