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uvatbc 2010-12-29 21:14

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Maemo.org Application Download Statistics (Unofficial)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by epage (Post 906968)
young whippersnapper like qgvdial

Oi! I'm not that young.. Well... Actually you're right. :o

Quote:

Originally Posted by epage (Post 906968)
Something else that ties into download counts is updates. Release a lot of updates then you get a higher count.

The main thing I get out of looking at the download statistics is sadness for how many people run software out of extras-devel.

The "more releases" conclusion is probably correct.
Devil is supposed to be devilish, but these statistics have actually prompted me to complete qgvdial to the point where it can be pushed to testing and then extras.

OP has motivated a lazy *** like me.

freemangordon 2010-12-29 21:16

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Maemo.org Application Download Statistics (Unofficial)
 
@epage: I am saying too high.

Lets continue my example with extkbd. I promote last version in testing on 20.11.2010 according to package manager. lets give it another 10 days until everyone is up to date (generous ain't it :) ). So according to those statistics from 1st of December till today roughly 200 people per day download extkbd to set layout of their new shiny keyboard attached to n900? I refuse to believe that, sorry.


@amandalam: I am not trying to insult you, it is just my six sense saying that something is wrong with those values.

slender 2010-12-29 21:26

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Maemo.org Application Download Statistics (Unofficial)
 
@freemangordon
Btw. Is any other package dependend on your extkbd-package?

freemangordon 2010-12-29 21:34

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Maemo.org Application Download Statistics (Unofficial)
 
No

filler filler

epage 2010-12-29 21:46

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Maemo.org Application Download Statistics (Unofficial)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by uvatbc (Post 906987)
Oi! I'm not that young.. Well... Actually you're right. :o



The "more releases" conclusion is probably correct.
Devil is supposed to be devilish, but these statistics have actually prompted me to complete qgvdial to the point where it can be pushed to testing and then extras.

OP has motivated a lazy *** like me.

I meant the age of the package rather than the age of the programmer.

I'm much a fan of "release early, release often". This in theory would get you more feedback plus it would not provide as much encouragement for people to go out of extras or extras-testing if people didn't let there software sit in extras-devel for extended periods of time.

dwaradzyn 2010-12-29 22:03

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Maemo.org Application Download Statistics (Unofficial)
 
Those statistics include all update downloads as well as regular install downloads. That's what makes them much higher than real users count.

Mentalist Traceur 2010-12-29 22:05

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Maemo.org Application Download Statistics (Unofficial)
 
There's quite a lot of understandable push for that though. Half the good stuff is only in devel, and never leaves devel. I honestly tried to stay just in Extras when I first got my N900, but at the time, all the new good stuff would come out and it would never leave devel for months. FreOffice could edit documents for months before a version supporting that made it out of devel. (Or is it still not in extras?)

The situation IS getting better, but by now there's countless posts telling people to go to devel.

geneven 2010-12-29 22:37

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Maemo.org Application Download Statistics (Unofficial)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by slender (Post 906985)
It pretty much correlates with amout of users who come here on raving how slow and bad their N900 is :D

That's funny; I've been running software out of extras-devel literally for years and haven't been having big problems or raving about how bad my N900 (or N810 or N800) is.

amandalam 2010-12-30 02:10

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Maemo.org Application Download Statistics (Unofficial)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by epage (Post 906968)
Just some points to consider when looking at both this data and the downloads page data.

http://maemo.dadablog.net/AppStats.p...l&os=fremantle
http://maemo.org/downloads/product/Maemo5/dialcentral/#

epage, nice catch! :o

It looks like that my previous PHP script was not fetching enough data per line, and so DialCentral's extras-devel counts later than August were not counted. I've fixed this and the total count of DialCentral should now be consistent with the graph.

uvatbc 2011-01-04 16:46

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Maemo.org Application Download Statistics (Unofficial)
 
@amandalam: I think I just found a bug: It is Jan 4th. On the stats page for qgvdial, it shows the counts for 1st=1706 and 2nd=1945. The sum however is 1945.
One off summation error?


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