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festivalnut 2011-01-07 21:07

Re: Broken another N900...
 
yeah i'm calling a bit of minor fudspreading there! thats not technically 5 phones broken if only really one of them have broken, although if they were refusing to replace the sim thats a real easy find and fix even if its not really your fault! i say try another. perhaps even try geneven on his offer, though i dont see why he would want yours.

geneven 2011-01-07 21:16

Re: Broken another N900...
 
I doubt that the OP will take me up on the offer, since he has no way of knowing what condition my N900 is in, and he can get a new one.

When I read these nightmare stories, I'm often very curious to know what would happen if I had the device in question. I've bought four or five Nokia devices in a row, (two N900s, an N810, an N800 and an N500 gps unit, if you count that) and have had no problems except ones I have been able to fix.

Dan7712 2011-01-07 21:18

Re: Broken another N900...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by geneven (Post 914440)
I don't think your account is accurate, frankly. I think you have gotten rid of your N900 for no good reason on multiple occasions. If you want to trade your current N900 for one that doesn't have the problem, send me a PM and I'll consider it.

Excuse me? If I read your post right it sounds as though you are calling me a liar and just want to replace my N900...

Do you understand how much of a pain it is getting a new phone? Taking all your photos, videos, audio, bookmarks, contacts, settings and all the other things you store on your phone is a nightmare. Then having to queue up in a long line of people, just to be given a new phone and having to put all your data back on it, making it look and feel just as the last one did. It takes time, and I have better things to do than that TBH with you.

For the phones that have been replaced.

I was getting no sim card detected issues - Well, it was about a week old. I took it back down to the shop and they replaced it.

No sim card detected issues again - They tested my sim card in a different phone and it worked fine. So they replaced the phone.

Yet again, no sim errors. - I decided it was impossible it was the phone. So I done more research. I discovered I had a 2G sim card that should have been upgraded but never was... I was then given a new phone with a new sim. I have no idea why they gave me a new phone, they just did.

Facials coming loose - The simcard issues were fixed but I am sure this one had been dropped or some sort as all the plastic from the screen was pulling away... It actually looked as though it could have been ex display.

Screen dying - This one worked for ages. Not a single problem. Then the screen started to die where it was being used alot.
Over heating - Well read above....

Still think I am BSing you?

dannycamps 2011-01-07 21:23

Re: Broken another N900...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan7712 (Post 914399)
This is my fifth N900 now... Not to sure what I keep doing to them but I get all sorts of errors such as No Sim cards and constant signal drop out.

I have had this phone for about 8 weeks now, started off a bit rocky, the phone was very unstable, quick reflash fixed that for a week or so then I noticed a problem.

My N900 would get very hot if 3g was being used. I mean, it gets very hot. Not slightly warm. Just hot. It will then drain the battery in about 30 minutes from full. The heat seems to be coming from the battery and goes up to the keyboard. If the phone is shut the keyboard gets pretty hot and the screen will also start heating up. But the heat comes from the battery, I am sure of it. Flashed the phone again and the problem is still there.

I sent Nokia an email and they are willing the replace the phone for either: an N8, C7 or another N900. I love the phone since I have had five of them now... I have checked out the specs on the N8 and C7 and they just aren't what I am after. Going back to Symbain isn't something what I really want to do.

What you guys think I should do here?

Phone getting hot and fast battery drain are symptoms of a processor pegged at 100% utilization constantly. Are you overclocking (and if so at what speed)?

Do you have load-monitor or the CPU/Mem widget installed so you can keep track of the processor?

What apps have you installed? I can see 1 or maybe 2 phones experiencing the same problems but maybe there is just some kind of software combination you have that the phones do not like.

Are you getting the phones from the same source? Is it from Nokia or a third-party? Are you getting them locally or imported from another country?

festivalnut 2011-01-07 21:29

Re: Broken another N900...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dannycamps (Post 914458)
Phone getting hot and fast battery drain are symptoms of a processor pegged at 100% utilization constantly. Are you overclocking (and if so at what speed)?

now that you've mentioned it, perhaps unknowingly flashed a oc'd kernel? install cpufreq ui, or conky, and see what your cpu is sitting at idle.

Dan7712 2011-01-07 21:31

Re: Broken another N900...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dannycamps (Post 914458)
Phone getting hot and fast battery drain are symptoms of a processor pegged at 100% utilization constantly. Are you overclocking (and if so at what speed)?

Do you have load-monitor or the CPU/Mem widget installed so you can keep track of the processor?

What apps have you installed? I can see 1 or maybe 2 phones experiencing the same problems but maybe there is just some kind of software combination you have that the phones do not like.

Are you getting the phones from the same source? Is it from Nokia or a third-party? Are you getting them locally or imported from another country?

I think I have sparked off some confusion here. This is the only phone that has overheated.

Yeah - I have one CPU monitor that sits up by the battery symbol. This is usually at 100% when the phone first connects to the internet, it then drops down after a few minutes. I am guessing it is grabbing all my emails and Skype contacts. Bar that I haven't actually looked to see if it gets stuck at 100%

Phone is NOT overclocked. And never has been. Software wise. I have a contact merger, categorise and that is about it. I never installed all my software after my last flash.

Dan7712 2011-01-07 21:33

Re: Broken another N900...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by festivalnut (Post 914462)
now that you've mentioned it, perhaps unknowingly flashed a oc'd kernel? install cpufreq ui, or conky, and see what your cpu is sitting at idle.

The last flash done was with Nokia Ovi.... And that is probably the last flash it will get from that software too!

geneven 2011-01-07 21:35

Re: Broken another N900...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan7712 (Post 914454)
Excuse me? If I read your post right it sounds as though you are calling me a liar and just want to replace my N900...



Still think I am BSing you?

Not all inaccurate accounts are due to someone being a liar. The overwhelming proportion of inaccurate accounts are due to inaccurate perceptions. I would guess 90-95% of false accounts are due to mistakes rather than lies.

Who was your ISP that refused to change SIMs? Are you in the US? I doubt it, because then you would be talking about tmobile, and you could get another sim for a very small amount of money, and besides, tmobile gives away sims like they were throwing confetti.

I'm in Southern California. If you are in that neighborhood, I would drive a long way to try out your N900.

slvr32 2011-01-07 22:04

Re: Broken another N900...
 
It might be useful for the OP to qualify the amount of usage, e.g. after using Skype for an hour over the data connection, the phone gets very hot.

I would agree that the N900 can/does get quite warm, after talking on the phone for a while, and 3G usage, long calls with Skype, etc... tends to make the phone work even harder, and get even warmer.

Personally, I hate talking on the phone, and that's nearly the last thing I actually want to use the N900 for... but when I do have longer conversations, I also tend to use headphones, and put the phone down somewhere, rather than hold it against my head/ear for too long.

TiagoTiago 2011-01-07 22:05

Re: Broken another N900...
 
Are you sure the device really got replaced? I've seen some horror stories involving Nokia's hired tech support, things like devices being just reflashed and switched cases, and even tech support saying the device is fried and unrepairable when actually it was just a loose screen cable.


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