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chowdahhead 2011-02-11 20:49
Re: elop's first responsibilty is to his shareholders, not us
 
Correct me if I'm wrong on this, but Windows Mobile never gained much marketshare overall, and what it had was mainly concentrated in North America. Why would Nokia bet it's future on a long-shot like Microsoft Mobile Division, without hedging that with Meego or Android? It's evident that Nokia has no immediate or long-term strategy, and clearly no confidence in what they're doing.

Laughing Man 2011-02-11 20:53
Re: elop's first responsibilty is to his shareholders, not us
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by leetnoob (Post 943078)
http://www.minyanville.com/dailyfeed...s-walk-out-in/

1000 nokia employees walk out. google trying to recruit them.

well done nokia top brass. bravo.
Haha Google, RIM, and HP should all consider hiring them. Then turn around and finish off Nokia and ensure the Windows Phone 7 never reaches the level that Android and IOS have or will reach.

tissot 2011-02-11 21:00
Re: elop's first responsibilty is to his shareholders, not us
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Laughing Man (Post 943181)
Haha Google, RIM, and HP should all consider hiring them. Then turn around and finish off Nokia and ensure the Windows Phone 7 never reaches the level that Android and IOS have or will reach.
They are already...

Google/Android
http://www.phonesreview.co.uk/2011/0...are-engineers/
HP/webOS
http://jaaksi.blogspot.com/2011/02/y...ifference.html

Dave999 2011-02-11 21:14
Re: elop's first responsibilty is to his shareholders, not us
 
This might be part of the plan. MS wants to buy cheap...

cBeam 2011-02-11 21:19
Re: elop's first responsibilty is to his shareholders, not us
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bugelrex (Post 943151)
MMmm
Nov 2007 stock price => $40
the day Elop arrived => $10

Nokia's previous strategy destroyed 75% of the corporate value in 3 years placing it back to 1998 levels.

Another 1-2 years of the old Symbian course would have dropped the price to low digits. The old people/strategy were destroying the company
Correct, and OPK was held accountable (certainly too late).
Now Elop announces his new strategy, and the stock is down big time. Do you think that embracing Windows brings NOK up to $15 again?

Performance of a new CEO cannot be measured against failure of the previous guard.

cBeam 2011-02-11 21:29
Re: elop's first responsibilty is to his shareholders, not us
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 943210)
This might be part of the plan. MS wants to buy cheap...
Microsoft buying Nokia would have meant a nice premium for NOK shareholders.

Now Microsoft gets everything they want, no need to buy Nokia anymore.

gerbick 2011-02-11 21:31
Re: elop's first responsibilty is to his shareholders, not us
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bugelrex (Post 943151)
MMmm
Nov 2007 stock price => $40
the day Elop arrived => $10

Nokia's previous strategy destroyed 75% of the corporate value in 3 years placing it back to 1998 levels.

Another 1-2 years of the old Symbian course would have dropped the price to low digits. The old people/strategy were destroying the company
Quoted for truth.

Rauha 2011-02-11 21:32
Re: elop's first responsibilty is to his shareholders, not us
 
Good tweets from fake Flop.

http://twitter.com/fakeselop

bugelrex 2011-02-11 21:34
Re: elop's first responsibilty is to his shareholders, not us
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cBeam (Post 943219)
Correct, and OPK was held accountable (certainly too late).
Now Elop announces his new strategy, and the stock is down big time. Do you think that embracing Windows brings NOK up to $15 again?

Performance of a new CEO cannot be measured against failure of the previous guard.
If Nokia did nothing but continue on current strategy (with their history of failing to execute) there's probably a 80% chance of the stock going to 5.

With the W7 and Meego strategy, I feel there is a 30% of going to $5 and a 60% chance of going to $15. A pleasant surprise might be a decent Meego phone. You'll be surprised how much productivity you can squeeze out of your employees when they know their job is on the line...

Just laying off all Symbian developers saves them 1Billion EUROS a year! shocking!
http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/f...Dbreakdown.jpg

cBeam 2011-02-11 21:35
Re: elop's first responsibilty is to his shareholders, not us
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 943232)
Quoted for truth.
Correct, and OPK was held accountable (certainly too late).
Now Elop announces his new strategy, and the stock is down big time. Do you think that embracing Windows brings NOK up to $15 again?

Performance of a new CEO cannot be measured against failure of the previous guard.

Re-quoted for truth too.


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