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epage 2011-02-16 14:31

Re: HP WebOS
 
Looking at the webOS internals stuff I see I could get pretty much all the command line stuff I want

App development is a bit limited to either C or Javascript. It does have SDL so maybe pygame could work on it. Also I think I saw someone post that they are shipping qt so I wonder if that'll become a possibility.

The two main issues are (1) limited HW availability due to single vendor and (2) with large parts not being open and HP limited SW upgrades, will we run into a similar situation as we do with Nokia and some Android manufacturers that to upgrade SW you have to buy a new device.

cddiede 2011-02-16 14:35

Re: HP WebOS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by epage (Post 948015)
The two main issues are (1) limited HW availability due to single vendor and (2) with large parts not being open and HP limited SW upgrades, will we run into a similar situation as we do with Nokia and some Android manufacturers that to upgrade SW you have to buy a new device.

Agreed it's not perfect, but considering the events of the last week it's looking very attractive.

The single hardware source and possibility of a compelled hardware upgrade are no different then where we were with Maemo and Nokia.

Except HP seems to give a s^$T about their Linux platform....

stickymick 2011-02-16 14:44

Re: HP WebOS
 
Looking down WebOS Avenue myself for my next handset.
After the N900 I don't think I could go back to a closed or network branded O/S again.

Not liking the current range of Palm handsets at the mo, they look a little too "Old School Samsung(ish)" to me.

mmlado 2011-02-16 15:25

Re: HP WebOS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mbo (Post 948001)
Don't know what "qualified" means, but I'll see...

In this content I mean it means developers who have done apps for the Pre 2, will get free a Pre 3 so they can move their aps to Enyo.

Quote:

to see how you can receive the latest device to test your apps.

sjgadsby 2011-02-16 15:40

Re: HP WebOS
 
WebOS looks interesting. However, the hardware upon which it runs concerns me. The earlier Palm-built Pres made the news several times for widespread hardware design and build issues, and a decade or more has passed since I've had an HP printer or other peripheral remain functional long enough past the end of its short limited warranty period to not leave me feeling the device's engineering had focused on being just good enough.

I'm watching and hoping HP will prove my fears groundless. There was a time I trusted HP for high quality engineering. I want to again.

mikecomputing 2011-02-16 15:55

Re: HP WebOS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maluka (Post 948000)
HP needs better hardware designers. Hopefully they can poach on of the Nokia guys.

I dont think the HW engineers inside Nokia will leave the company my guess is this people will get even more money too stay cause both Nokia and Microsoft needs them alot more than the SW engineers...

mikecomputing 2011-02-16 15:59

Re: HP WebOS
 
Some of the core linux stuff seems similar :-D

http://opensource.palm.com/2.0.0/index.html

ysss 2011-02-16 16:14

Re: HP WebOS
 
I've had numerous build quality issues with my Palm Treos from years ago (600, 650, 680); but they were good with support. I just had to make an appointment with them to check their replacement unit stock, came by one of their support point and get an immediate hardware exchange.

Full backup and full restore of data took less than 15 minutes... and off I go, like nothing bad had happened.

But yeah, this issue is certainly not new to Palm. I've higher expectations now that they're under hp.

mrojas 2011-02-16 16:38

Re: HP WebOS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sjgadsby (Post 948067)
WebOS looks interesting. However, the hardware upon which it runs concerns me. The earlier Palm-built Pres made the news several times for widespread hardware design and build issues, and a decade or more has passed since I've had an HP printer or other peripheral remain functional long enough past the end of its short limited warranty period to not leave me feeling the device's engineering had focused on being just good enough.

I'm watching and hoping HP will prove my fears groundless. There was a time I trusted HP for high quality engineering. I want to again.

It is highly probable I'll go with their tablet, I am a big multi-tasker and because I'm guessing that there will be less build quality issues with a mono-block design than with a slider one. From what I read on the web, the only manufacturer able to do good slider designs is Nokia... :(

mmlado 2011-02-16 17:04

Re: HP WebOS
 
I tried to register on developer.palm.com as a developer.
If you're like me and live outside of these countries:
Argentina, Australia, Austria, Belgium, Brazil, Bulgaria, Canada, Chile, China, Costa Rica, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, Estonia, Finland, France, French Guiana, Germany, Gibraltar, Greece, Guadeloupe, Hong Kong, Hungary, Iceland, India, Indonesia, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Jamaica, Japan, Korea, Republic of, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malaysia, Malta, Martinique, Mexico, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Philippines, Poland, Portugal, Reunion, Romania, San Marino, Singapore, Slovakia, Somalia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Taiwan, Thailand, Turkey, United Arab Emirates, United Kingdom, United States, Uruguay, Venezuela
though luck, you can't... :( unless... you know, you lie. :)
You can register for their board.
I started a thread there, asking around if there are others like me, but nothing yet. Join me :) : http://developer.palm.com/distributi...p?f=21&t=11260

They have a program now, Developer Device Program. http://developer.palm.com/index.php?...rticle&id=2129

Quote:

We're excited to announce that developers will be able to purchase an unlocked UMTS Palm Pre 2 smartphone online in the United States at a $200 discount. Just send an email to pdc@palm.com This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it to request a coupon!
As I know any newly registered developer can ask for the coupon.
It will be in effect till June 30th 2011.
It's only available in US. :(

Hope HP will start broadening their borders, shortly... if not they will probably loose lot of developers, from here, who will instead go for Android.


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