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onethreealpha 2011-05-29 07:29
Re: MeeGo 1.2 Release?????
 
Dan,
there is no "Official" version for N900.
Handset Ux is available for arm and ia32.
There is a Developer Edition for N900 which contains bits and peices from the Handset UX (trunk) and the N900 Hardware Adaption Team's work.
Closed source components include BME, SGX, wireless and some sysinfo stuff specific to the N900.
Current build provides for BASIC telephony and SMS functionality.
Calender (buggy), contacts (V Basic), xterm, wifi, bluetooth etc,picture, music and video (all a bit buggy) etc.
you can make and receive calls and send/receive sms.
Update via xterm using zypper works, but there are some issues woth some packages.
It's a classic alpha/beta release and should not, in any way be seen or assumed to be a "complete" release.
the people working on this are doing a great job and I expect, given time and more community developer input, this will become a viable alternative OS for the N900, and not just for devs/hackers.

Just my .02c

Daneel 2011-05-29 07:47
Re: MeeGo 1.2 Release?????
 
There are a couple of detailed video reviews of this version on youtube.
Check it out for yourself:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4vN_Xn0jq0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDfIfOeT0fU

danramos 2011-05-29 08:08
Re: MeeGo 1.2 Release?????
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by onethreealpha (Post 1017809)
Dan,
there is no "Official" version for N900.
Handset Ux is available for arm and ia32.
There is a Developer Edition for N900 which contains bits and peices from the Handset UX (trunk) and the N900 Hardware Adaption Team's work.
Closed source components include BME, SGX, wireless and some sysinfo stuff specific to the N900.
Current build provides for BASIC telephony and SMS functionality.
Calender (buggy), contacts (V Basic), xterm, wifi, bluetooth etc,picture, music and video (all a bit buggy) etc.
you can make and receive calls and send/receive sms.
Update via xterm using zypper works, but there are some issues woth some packages.
It's a classic alpha/beta release and should not, in any way be seen or assumed to be a "complete" release.
the people working on this are doing a great job and I expect, given time and more community developer input, this will become a viable alternative OS for the N900, and not just for devs/hackers.

Just my .02c
Thanks! That's what I'm looking for. So, I'm assuming all this tempest in a teapot is over the fact that there's no finalized consumer-release version, then? I was under the impression it was still a work in progress and long from a real release (as you seem to confirm to me), but all these announcements and the angst made me wonder if I missed something significant.

onethreealpha 2011-05-29 08:49
Re: MeeGo 1.2 Release?????
 
One of the big challenges is that, unlike the netbook/tablet builds which have had Intel to support driver development for their harware/chipsets, providing rapid ability to deploy onto existing hardware platforms (many of which are the same/alike), the handset builds are only really available for a small amount of devices, thanks to proprietory drivers and hardware.
as a result, there isn't the "market" to entice developer support and the UI supplied with the vanilla handset UX builds is very basic. the design of the UI is pretty straight forward and allows for some big changes without a massive amount of code. what we need is some of the talented theme makers here at TMO to dedicate some time to contribute to the n900DE project.
"prettying" up the UI will go a long way to enticing more people to contribute, if only, like me, as testers/bug reporters.
those who have already developed qt apps for fremantle could look at doing builds of their stable stuff for Meego, which in turn will provde enhancement for the project, leaving the N900 Dev team to focus on getting the base build 100% solid.

as an aside, i'm using one of the latest images on my N900 as a daily phone (restricted, of course!) and the phone app is more responsive than the fremantle debacle....

thashku 2011-05-29 09:09
Re: MeeGo 1.2 Release?????
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by onethreealpha (Post 1017827)
One of the big challenges is that, unlike the netbook/tablet builds which have had Intel to support driver development for their harware/chipsets, providing rapid ability to deploy onto existing hardware platforms (many of which are the same/alike), the handset builds are only really available for a small amount of devices, thanks to proprietory drivers and hardware.
as a result, there isn't the "market" to entice developer support and the UI supplied with the vanilla handset UX builds is very basic. the design of the UI is pretty straight forward and allows for some big changes without a massive amount of code. what we need is some of the talented theme makers here at TMO to dedicate some time to contribute to the n900DE project.
"prettying" up the UI will go a long way to enticing more people to contribute, if only, like me, as testers/bug reporters.
those who have already developed qt apps for fremantle could look at doing builds of their stable stuff for Meego, which in turn will provde enhancement for the project, leaving the N900 Dev team to focus on getting the base build 100% solid.

as an aside, i'm using one of the latest images on my N900 as a daily phone (restricted, of course!) and the phone app is more responsive than the fremantle debacle....
yup, i have the same opinion here. i polled yes for abills poll, still i agree with u in this matter. i would like to have the open sourced meego running perfectly on my device with out any bugs licking it and scratching its *** now and then.
the bug problem in n900 now is told to be because of the closed source code for it, if maemo source code wont be released and no further support from nokia will be available to uplift maemo, we should think of working out meeGo for n900.
how ever i am waiting for the consumer release of meeGo in n900.

vi_ 2011-05-29 09:29
Re: MeeGo 1.2 Release?????
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by onethreealpha (Post 1017827)
One of the big challenges is that, unlike the netbook/tablet builds which have had Intel to support driver development for their harware/chipsets, providing rapid ability to deploy onto existing hardware platforms (many of which are the same/alike), the handset builds are only really available for a small amount of devices, thanks to proprietory drivers and hardware.
as a result, there isn't the "market" to entice developer support and the UI supplied with the vanilla handset UX builds is very basic. the design of the UI is pretty straight forward and allows for some big changes without a massive amount of code. what we need is some of the talented theme makers here at TMO to dedicate some time to contribute to the n900DE project.
"prettying" up the UI will go a long way to enticing more people to contribute, if only, like me, as testers/bug reporters.
those who have already developed qt apps for fremantle could look at doing builds of their stable stuff for Meego, which in turn will provde enhancement for the project, leaving the N900 Dev team to focus on getting the base build 100% solid.

as an aside, i'm using one of the latest images on my N900 as a daily phone (restricted, of course!) and the phone app is more responsive than the fremantle debacle....
Well there was always the 'Cordia' project to port hildon UX to meego.


oh wait, that died too.

thashku 2011-05-29 10:20
Re: MeeGo 1.2 Release?????
 
i have a doubt related to installing meeGo as dual boot in a seperate SD card.
The question is, can simply install uboot and not install MeeGo till i am ready to install it?
like, now i am not ready to install MeeGo, but to start with i want to install uboot,will it cause any harm?

onethreealpha 2011-05-29 10:52
Re: MeeGo 1.2 Release?????
 
@vi_
with all due respect mate, that's unfair on smoku.
the cordia project hasn't died. What's happened there is smoku has a full time job that pays the bills. Cordia is a project that, it would seem from comments like yours, gets nothing more than criticism from the community, because it isn't happening fast enough.

@thashku

installing uboot without meego won't cause a problem.
If uboot doesn't see a boot file and image on the sd card, it will default boot the maemo image.

smoku 2011-05-29 11:37
Re: MeeGo 1.2 Release?????
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by devil prince (Post 1017765)
that is not an official release its de germany one if you goto this site http://wiki.meego.com/Release_Engineering/Plans/1.2 there you can see there release plan which is changed a few times already
It's not DEutsch,but Developer Edition. ;)

And it's as official as you can get. This is Nokia sponsored project to bring usable MeeGo adaptation to N900.

abill_uk 2011-05-29 12:06
Re: MeeGo 1.2 Release?????
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by onethreealpha (Post 1017827)
One of the big challenges is that, unlike the netbook/tablet builds which have had Intel to support driver development for their harware/chipsets, providing rapid ability to deploy onto existing hardware platforms (many of which are the same/alike), the handset builds are only really available for a small amount of devices, thanks to proprietory drivers and hardware.
as a result, there isn't the "market" to entice developer support and the UI supplied with the vanilla handset UX builds is very basic. the design of the UI is pretty straight forward and allows for some big changes without a massive amount of code. what we need is some of the talented theme makers here at TMO to dedicate some time to contribute to the n900DE project.
"prettying" up the UI will go a long way to enticing more people to contribute, if only, like me, as testers/bug reporters.
those who have already developed qt apps for fremantle could look at doing builds of their stable stuff for Meego, which in turn will provde enhancement for the project, leaving the N900 Dev team to focus on getting the base build 100% solid.

as an aside, i'm using one of the latest images on my N900 as a daily phone (restricted, of course!) and the phone app is more responsive than the fremantle debacle....
Can you please post this on the Poll thread as it will give hope and maybe pull a few devs?.


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