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marmistrz 2012-01-01 11:19

Re: My First N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hurrian (Post 1144071)
This can be avoided by putting swap on a SD card and performing the IO Improvement Swappolube tweak.

I made the swappolube tweak, but have no microsd card. Why does it work alright when on a card?

Or do you think about an additional swap on the memcard?

bingomion 2012-01-02 00:36

Re: My First N900
 
Congrats :)

when you say develop, you mean the SDK right?
http://maemo-sdk.garage.maemo.org/user-guide.html

I prefer the ubunto vmware:
http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/maemo-d...Image_Final.7z

If you don't know linux or developing, it's a hellish way to learn :(

You'll find that if you turn vibration and leave the phone on silent the battery will last way longer or turn all sounds but calls and messages off, works well too

MINKIN2 2012-01-05 01:03

Re: My First N900
 
Hi Abe, once you have all of the above nailed down (or like me fry your brain and need a break now and again) why not take a look through the creative works in the Show off your Maemo 5 screenshots thread?

It is a huge thread but mostly full of pics and tips on how to customise your desktop to your very own liking. You could quite literally transform you n900 into another phone if you wish :)

reinob 2012-01-05 09:45

Re: My First N900
 
@Old Abe,

One thing to add, in case you haven't done it yet: install openssh. This gives you both client and server. No need to explain the benefits of this :)

Old Abe 2012-01-05 12:27

Re: My First N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by reinob (Post 1146047)
@Old Abe,

One thing to add, in case you haven't done it yet: install openssh. This gives you both client and server. No need to explain the benefits of this :)


I installed openssh within the first ten minutes of having my phone (along with a few other necessities). I'm not kidding.

Thanks for the suggestion. Have any more?

Abe

reinob 2012-01-05 14:25

Re: My First N900
 
@Old Abe,

Happy about that :)

I'd recommend having a look at BackupMenu as well as the thread about a recovery console. May help you in case you need to unbrick the N900 :)

Add: scratch that. seeing your rececent posts it looks like you've been through that already (except maybe the recovery console).

One thing that might interest you is the bleeding-edge wireless driver, plus all the related tools for network sniffing.

eight 2012-01-05 14:33

Re: My First N900
 
First things I did install:

ssh
screen
busybox-power
find
mc
tightvnc

I'm interested what your other necessities are.

rm42 2012-01-05 15:17

Re: My First N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eight (Post 1146141)
First things I did install:

ssh
screen
busybox-power
find
mc
tightvnc

I'm interested what your other necessities are.

I would say:
SomePlayer
fm-boost
FileBox
Password Safe
DropN900
Opera
FCamera
...

Old Abe 2012-01-05 17:38

Re: My First N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Fila (Post 1144049)
hey congrats

flash the device to pr1.3 use the international ver
install backup menu start the device with the keyboard open you can perform backups, boot to terminal, usb host mode.
cssu will give you the latest in community enhancements
enhanced busy box and bash
power kernel v49 is the latest kerenel for the device

it is very similar to debian distro ..you can find the maemo sdk in the tab above marked development. wikis are kept up to date use the power search on the right in liu of the forum search. debian ldxe is not installed by default ..it has been compiled to run via chroot on the device. Baktrax distro has also been compiled to run on device if that interests you oh and windows 3.1 lol

good luck and have fun

edit: faster app manger is good for installing programs, not for pr updates or cssu and you can also use apt from the command line if you prefer you will also need rootsh to get root access

edit2 also you may have to add extra testing and devel repositories for some of the above apps

What will CSSU grant me? Does it focus primarily on the GUI and camera functionality? I'm really interested in additions that grant me the most access to the core of the system. What do I need to install to get the latest drivers? Is the only way to access root on the device really "rootssh"? Not that is bad or anything. I'm currently installing Easy Debian which will get me closer to running the type of device I'd like. I'm pretty busy with work at the moment so I haven't been able to read as much as I would like. I'm guessing that this weekend I will be able to find some time and fill in the blanks.

What do you use the power kernel for? What is its' greatest benefit to you?

Thank you for your constant help, Mike.

Abe

Addendum:

What is the story on my-maemo.org? Why the separate site? Why aren't many of the applications also hosted here? I'm guessing an approval process?

woody14619 2012-01-05 19:00

Re: My First N900
 
First word of advice: avoid any package with the word "patch" in it's title. They're crap and will screw your system.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Abe (Post 1146223)
What will CSSU grant me?

CSSU is a community led effort to backport things that have happened up stream to this device. Updated drivers, improvements on some of the close-sourced bits (re-writes and blob wrappers), and the like. It's well worth the install.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Abe (Post 1146223)
Is the only way to access root on the device really "rootssh"?

Yes and no. You can always use ssh, or su, or setup the sudo file, like you would in a normal linux system. You can also use the suid-bit, etc. Maemo is a real and functioning Debian variant, with a few binary blobs, drivers, and nokia apps that lend to functionality as a phone. If you don't care about the phone parts, you can install debian directly on the device. Personally I wouldn't, but it's been done and is possible.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Abe (Post 1146223)
What do you use the power kernel for? What is its' greatest benefit to you?

The primary benefit is stability and backported driver code. That said, most people install it to overclock. Each device is a little specific, as the chipsets used vary in quality. Sometimes the backported drivers have fixes for such things (slow wifi chips, sxgs that reset randomly, etc). I use it for that reason, and also do minor overclocking (500-900, where Nokia ships 250-600). It also tends to do better with battery life, for a variety of reasons.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Abe (Post 1146223)
Thank you for your constant help, Mike.

You'll find that if you're polite, and ask for help (vs demanding it), and actually intelligently try to figure things out on your own with help given, you get very positive feedback here. But that's true of most forums. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Abe (Post 1146223)

What is the story on my-maemo.org? Why the separate site? Why aren't many of the applications also hosted here? I'm guessing an approval process?

This is my understanding of the history of this place. I'm sure someone who's been around longer can correct or clarify this:

Maemo.org is actually a community run site that started as a tablet forum a long while back (www.internettablettalk.com). There were several predecessors to the N900 (N7XX & N8xx, at least 3), all tablets, running a variant of Maemo. At some point Nokia/Maemo decided this forum was the best place for community chatter, started funding the site, and sucked the forums in under their domain. (forums.internettablettalk,com == talk.maemo.org) That said, there's only one "Nokia employee" here that does maintenance on the site, though several Nokia/Maemo employees have wandered in on occasion to say hi. Everything is pretty much monitored, managed, and moderated by volunteers, just like most non-affiliated forums.

To my knowledge, no other maemo site (even my-maemo.com) is affiliated with or funded by Nokia, outside of their own OVI store and the launch pages/forum they made on nokia.com when N900 was near launch.

There are also other maemo.org sites (garage.maemo.org, for example) that are physically run by other Nokia/Maemo sub-groups, but they all tie together under the same domain name. Things like the bug tracker, the vote manager, garages, etc, were setup by Nokia and are now maintained by said groups, directly funded by Nokia. There's also a governing council here that has some say on how the gears turn, and have direct contact with Nokia and the groups that run each leg of the system.

(Hey, old-timers... it this pretty close to right? I looked for a FAQ but found none. :) )


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