Re: Nokia should fire Elop
 

I think going for windows 7.5 was a great idea, nokia would have died on synbian but dicthcing meego is was down right stupid!
Having Meego devices along with WP7 wouldn't have hurt them.

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well, without Symbian devices like N8, X7 & Co & NOKIA Belle, NOKIA wouldn't sell any smart phones to speak of anymore :(

we will have to agree to disagree on that, but LostDOS se7en Paralyzed was the worst possible choice and will not sell, no matter how nicely it is packed.
ppl just don't want it
but with a zealot @ the helm...

Re: Nokia should fire Elop
 

I don't have an issue with symbian but it did not have the advertising power that WP7 has "/ i loved all my symbian phones.

And to be fair i do really like WP7 it's too locked down for me and quite unpleasant to use, that is why i love my N9 <3

http://www.osnews.com/story/25569/No...selling_Lumia_
This article seems to say that for 1lumia sold 3 N9's were sold!

Re: Nokia should fire Elop
 

Nokia was doing much better with Symbian than WP. Symbian didnt saw any UI changes since s60v3. Symbian Anna was the first step in right direction as all web said. Symbian Belle is a totally new UI. so devices with Symbian Belle would have gained more market share. Symbian Donna will be the next big update with Dual Core support. Releasing MeeGo along with Symbian Belle was best for Nokia but Elop screwed everything.

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Thanx for that share... it looks quite plausible!

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Tja, Symbian in itself wasn't a problem (the architecture and feature completeness is quite nice!), but the GUI was horrible after 2006 (even i didn't find in the menus what i was looking for) and the CPU power / RAM capacity given was a joke. Anyone remember "Not enough RAM" in Garmin Mobile XT, even with nothing running amongst?

But this doesn't take into account: internal Nokia politics, the unmaintability of Symbian code (remember that article about reverse-enginering their own stuff?), the fight between different business units / factions (Maemo vs. Symbian folks), too many management levels, ...)

Re: Nokia should fire Elop
 

Stephen Elop is proposed for re-election in this year as Nokia refresh its board of directors. Hope he will not be selected again as the CEO of Nokia. http://mynokiablog.com/2012/01/31/re...-of-directors/

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yeah. ram was the biggest problem in S60v2 and v3 devices. that was resolved in later devices running S60v3 Feature Pack 2. My Nokia 5320 was having 128 mb ram and was much high than the requirements of Symbian. The great thing about symbian is that its not resource hunger nor battery hunger.

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The assumption of a 'cult' being behind Apple's success is dangerous, and a trap many companies could fall into. I'm sure there must be some Tru Fanboys out there, because everyone talks about them. I've yet to meet one, though. The fact of the matter is Apple makes really great products.

OK, I'm using an N9 right now. I love the look of the device, the buttonless operation, double tap to open, swipe... But the reality is my iPhone is way more stable and much easier to set up. The battery on it also lasts clearly longer and the antenna seems stronger (antennagate was mostly FUD). The font rendering is also better (or, possibly, the selected fonts have better defined properties in a typographical sense), the screen more precise and colour rendering is nicer.

Nokia is where it's at because it had rubbish products in comparison. My S40 wasn't horrible, but I switched to an iPhone as soon as the 3G came out. But even before the iPhone I suffered just looking at people using S60.

Having said that, I think the N9 is the best product Nokia has produced in many, many years. One that really shows the huge potential there could have been, and one that appeals to people's imaginations. The moment I saw an early prototype, I was immediately keen on it. Its fate is a sad thing.

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That's true. But, when a CEO forces an OS that has sold as much as the population of an African village, you can voluntarily drop it in the sewer.