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MartinK 2012-06-23 19:52
Re: Nokia seems to get rid of it's Qt team
 
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Originally Posted by lma (Post 1226426)
In fact that may be a bad omen for Blackberry. I mean, can you name one mobile platform that went with Qt (and there have been many) and lived to tell the tale?
Well, also a part of the WebOS 3.0 UI on the Hp Touchpad is written in Qt. :)

Still, I don't really think Qt is at fault there in this case. Rather outside interference & botched execution on the side of the ones using it.

gerbick 2012-06-23 21:01
Re: Nokia seems to get rid of it's Qt team
 
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Originally Posted by MartinK (Post 1226431)
Still, I don't really think Qt is at fault there in this case. Rather outside interference & botched execution on the side of the ones using it.
Devil's advocate here... if it's botched execution, then why does everybody seem to get it wrong?

anonymous 2012-06-23 21:41
Re: Nokia seems to get rid of it's Qt team
 
I asked someone once why they were gushing over adobe air when they could just use qt. The response was that most college students could create an adobe air app and make something shippable. QT on the other hand required people knowledgeable about C and that meant you now have to pay extra for their experience and knowledge when getting apps made.

The guy didn't mention quality once though. Just lowest price and quickest deadline.

lma 2012-06-23 21:46
Re: Nokia seems to get rid of it's Qt team
 
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Originally Posted by anonymous (Post 1226477)
The response was that most college students could create an adobe air app and make something shippable.
And that, ladies and gentlemen, sums up the sorry state of software engineering today.

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QT on the other hand required people knowledgeable about C
If only...

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The guy didn't mention quality once though. Just lowest price and quickest deadline.
Indeed, "shippable" != usable, or even fit for purpose.

MartinK 2012-06-23 22:22
Re: Nokia seems to get rid of it's Qt team
 
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Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1226463)
Devil's advocate here... if it's botched execution, then why does everybody seem to get it wrong?
To continue with the WebOS example - while the UI was built with Qt, it can't be used by third party applications. Thats as botched as it gets. :) Oh and no Python bindings. :)

gerbick 2012-06-24 00:06
Re: Nokia seems to get rid of it's Qt team
 
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Originally Posted by anonymous (Post 1226477)
I asked someone once why they were gushing over adobe air when they could just use qt. The response was that most college students could create an adobe air app and make something shippable. QT on the other hand required people knowledgeable about C and that meant you now have to pay extra for their experience and knowledge when getting apps made.

The guy didn't mention quality once though. Just lowest price and quickest deadline.
That can be said of any modern framework. Qt doesn't always equate to quality products. In fact, I've been clamoring to find awesome Qt examples that make me a believer.

I'm still looking. Parts of VLC, Skype and WebOS were Qt. Great. But what I see are better C++ coders that used Qt better than the current crop of anything on the N9 or WeTab.

Qt Quick falls under the same category as Adobe AIR, unfortunately. Especially if you're using prebuilt components via Flex SDK and the like.

balisingh 2012-06-24 02:29
Re: Nokia seems to get rid of it's Qt team
 
So, what, everyone should learn Javascript?

If a college student doesnt know C/C++ and hes writing software applications and not just some for the web, then that College's Computer Science division is surely making a fool of them.

gerbick 2012-06-24 03:13
Re: Nokia seems to get rid of it's Qt team
 
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Originally Posted by balisingh (Post 1226537)
So, what, everyone should learn Javascript?

If a college student doesnt know C/C++ and hes writing software applications and not just some for the web, then that College's Computer Science division is surely making a fool of them.
No disrespect, but what school doesn't teach C/C++ now? Even when I got my education in the mid-90's, that was the standard. The rest I've picked up, I did so with a strong foundation in C.

panjgoori 2012-06-24 07:08
Re: Nokia seems to get rid of it's Qt team
 
there is a nice read at this website http://www.knowyourmobile.com/blog/1...s_analyst.html

i love the part when they analyst says Elop's days are numbered in Nokia.

Hope this becomes true and i really want to see that Elop is kicked out of the company.


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