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rainisto 2012-08-20 15:43

Re: Changing capacity chip on N9 or N950? (Upgrading the N950 to 64GB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HtheB (Post 1253799)
Does anybody know which one is the right chip to replace on the N950?
http://mynokiablog.com/wp-content/up...-insides-5.jpg

not that hard to detect, like if you look what 64gb chip look like...

http://st.gsmarena.com/vv/newsimg/12...marena_001.jpg

Well anyways even if you know what chip to replace, your changes to change to bigger one and have running device afterwards, is near 0%, even if you manage to change it successfully... especially if you don't have access to factory flashers...

HtheB 2012-08-20 16:54

Re: Changing capacity chip on N9 or N950? (Upgrading the N950 to 64GB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rainisto (Post 1253805)
not that hard to detect, like if you look what 64gb chip look like...

http://st.gsmarena.com/vv/newsimg/12...marena_001.jpg

Well anyways even if you know what chip to replace, your changes to change to bigger one and have running device afterwards, is near 0%, even if you manage to change it successfully... especially if you don't have access to factory flashers...

What about if we swap it from the N9 64GB?

chenliangchen 2012-08-20 17:01

Re: Changing chips on N9 or N950?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MFaroTusino (Post 1253792)
The better option to make this possible, is to buy a Black 64GB, and perform a housing swap. Many people have done it (including myself, twice) and it is safer then messing with chips

I'm planning to buy a white 64GB N9 next week when I get back to Shanghai.:D

But for N950 that's the only method to extend memory.

chenliangchen 2012-08-20 17:04

Re: Changing capacity chip on N9 or N950? (Upgrading the N950 to 64GB)
 
So is the big Samsung chip on N950 the memory? Looks possibe to change...

Sazpaimon 2012-08-20 17:17

Re: Changing capacity chip on N9 or N950? (Upgrading the N950 to 64GB)
 
I eagerly await the day when you destroy your N950.

HtheB 2012-08-20 17:49

Re: Changing capacity chip on N9 or N950? (Upgrading the N950 to 64GB)
 
1 Attachment(s)
http://www.samsung.com/global/busine...-emmc/overview

So this should be it....

Edit: seems like the PKG and the PKG Dimensions are different... Would that work out? :(

chenliangchen 2012-08-20 21:48

Re: Changing capacity chip on N9 or N950? (Upgrading the N950 to 64GB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sazpaimon (Post 1253832)
I eagerly await the day when you destroy your N950.

There is always someone needs to be the first to try.

If you don't have any advice, just shut up!!

Estel 2012-08-20 22:25

Re: Changing capacity chip on N9 or N950? (Upgrading the N950 to 64GB)
 
I'm very interested in outcome of that - especially, that if HtheB really have access to required $$$ tools, it would be possible to change N900's OneNAND to one containing 1GB RAM (quite hard to get exactly same type with more RAM, but still possible)

We all know what it means, and where harmattan can hide, then ;)

/Estel

Hurrian 2012-08-20 22:40

Re: Changing capacity chip on N9 or N950? (Upgrading the N950 to 64GB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HtheB (Post 1253841)
www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/product/flash-emmc/overview

So this should be it....

Edit: seems like the PKG and the PKG Dimensions are different... Would that work out? :(

I'm betting on no. You'd need at the very least, for the package (type and number of solder joints to board) and the package dimensions to match up, unless you want to carry around an external board holding your chips ;)

Fabry 2012-08-21 00:18

Re: Changing capacity chip on N9 or N950? (Upgrading the N950 to 64GB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Estel (Post 1253923)
I'm very interested in outcome of that - especially, that if HtheB really have access to required $$$ tools, it would be possible to change N900's OneNAND to one containing 1GB RAM (quite hard to get exactly same type with more RAM, but still possible)

We all know what it means, and where harmattan can hide, then ;)

/Estel

The $$$ Tools can be more affordable than someone can think.
For example search info/videos about Tornado Soldering Station V2

The main problems are skill needed and spare parts.

For N900's nand is more difficult than eMMC because Nand (and Ram togheter) is a PoP chip.
But it remains theoretically feasible.

I have suggested it on : http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=133

I know (by internet) a company specialized on replacing Omap Soc and their PoP chip on existing Arm Board.

The main problems are:
  • How much money they want for doing the job ?
  • Newer PoP chips (up to 2GB ram with up to 4GB Nand) are pin compatible with one used on N900 ?
  • Newer PoP chips are available in small quantity ?
  • Omap 3430 used on N900 has max values for ram and Nand supported ?
    And what are these values ?

Furthermore in this thread we are OT :D


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