Re: Nokia N9 developer site shut down?
 

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Re: Nokia N9 developer site shut down?
 

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Re: Nokia N9 developer site shut down?
 

Harmattan will surely have an EOL at some point, isn't it obvious? Nokia dumped their Linux efforts. It's only a matter of time until they'll shut everything down and even stop selling N9s altogether. So it is essentially a dead platform already, which just still lingers in its last days.

If you don't do it for profit, then why not to work on some projects for Nemo and Sailfish or on porting more stuff to them? They'll greatly benefit from community contribution. Investing your effort in Harmattan does seem like a waste, if you consider its near future.

Re: Nokia N9 developer site shut down?
 

While most developers on TMO would (?) be porting over their apps to Sailfish I don't see how you can say their efforts on Harmattan are a waste! Near future or not; the first Jolla phone is due before summer '13 and I'm sure Harmattan will still be working till then so you mean no developer should put efforts in while awaiting the mighty jesus-Jolla phone? Its not as if the moment the Jolla phone releases, N9s the world over will die off...

Common, you of all people seem the more sensible ones around here so why getting into this fanboyism in your recent posts re Nemo & Sailfish?

Re: Nokia N9 developer site shut down?
 

Because we think the new platform was born dead, that's why.

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It's just because efforts are limited. I mean just look at all that noise in Harmattan Whazapp thread and what not. If the interest could turn into making some useful Nemo stuff - only better. I personally use Harmattan myself, it's not like I don't appreciate the platform. But I'm not really following any developments there, since it's already feeling like transitive, stalled thing.

Re: Nokia N9 developer site shut down?
 

Equating noise in a thread with developers stopping efforts on other projects is a very dangerous and short-sighted thing...

You may not follow developments here; that's your personal prerogative but there are many people unlike (pun intended) you who follow even fervently and appreciate all development efforts around here...

What's the guarantee you won't get noise in whichever forum Sailfish eventually sets-up shop in? If you think so you may be deluded as if Jolla manage to sell the phone well you are going to get even worst noise; I've been reading some blog articles that Jolla re-tweets and seriously NONE of them are better than even that noisy Wazapp thread in terms of real value! Oh another example for you; take all the Sailfish/Jolla threads started around here; the noise is any lesser?

Even your posts in Harmattan app threads asking for developers to port to Sailfish could be considered as noise considering the official Sailfish SDK isn't out, this is NOT their forum, they have 0 products till-date, their device doesn't launch till summer '13, they have not even announced how their device looks like, they haven't decided on what they want to keep open and the extent to openness etc

Re: Nokia N9 developer site shut down?
 

Interesting point.
Let me give you my 2c.
Sailfish, from my ppint as an app dev, is not ready.
Tools are early, system is under heavy development still,

heck they do not even hve a phone.
AND more important, they do not have a licensing model up(whatever it might be).better focus on the remaining options(harmattan and android).

Re: Nokia N9 developer site shut down?
 

thedead1440, tortoisedoc: That's why I mentioned Nemo as well, which can be perfectly used for prototyping and developing something that could be later switched to Sailfish as well. And for that the very same N9 is already usable. Surely there is "noise" around Jolla too, but my main point was not about the noise itself, but about the dispersing of resources.

Of course anyone can work on anything they find interesting. I just commented that doing something for Nemo - helps the community for the future but also makes it more usable already now. Don't forget, Nemo as an OS will develop alongside Sailfish and if they won't eventually merge (like in case of Sailfish going 100% open), Nemo will remain the fully open choice for those who prefer such thing. So making it more mature (like filling in missing classes of applications there) is a good thing.

Re: Nokia N9 developer site shut down?
 

Helps which Community? The non-existent one under Sailfish? Or the one Sailfish hope to inherit from here? If its the latter option that they are looking for then the current devices of choice are the N9 and N900...

Remember Jolla are a COMMERCIAL entity looking to maximize profits for themselves as their first and foremost objective! You asking a developer to NOT waste resources on working on the N9 but commit to Nemo/Sailfish is short-sighted and fanboyish like I already mentioned hence my disappointment in your recent posts. People like me deeply appreciate every development effort on the n9 so you are basically asking developers to forgo all us users for a non-existent user base in Sailfish or a very very small one in Nemo...

What was the target Jolla were rumoured to be looking at for first batch of devices? 100,000? Don't we have more N9s out there than that number they aim to achieve?