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joerg_rw 2013-04-21 21:40

Re: [ELECTIONS] Board announces HFC elections
 
On Sun 21 April 2013 22:32:12 robert bauer wrote:
> I'd like to see statements as well - especially for Hildon Foundation
> Council where there is an opportunity for hard reset of membership
> process/criteria and/or election criteria.
>
> Rob

Fair enough.
Since there been a "me" in my previous post, here's my statement regarding any
"hard reset":
I will try to find the best way to stay as close as possible to the classical traditional maemo
method of determining eligibility to vote and to run. Changes that
are not inevitable to cope with quirks in our infra or whatever have to get
discussed and approved as described in referendum procedure (also classical
traditional way).
In a concise statement: I'm sure community is the ultimate boss, I'm conservative regarding rules, and I think that the
ruleset that's been good for maemo community council since ages is also good for any new
entity related to maemo.

For Jaffa's request to do a bit of self advertisment: I just can promise that
my relation to the tasks in council won't change from what it is today, so if
you want to know what you will get by voting for me, see how I perform now and
if that's what you want.

cheers
jOERG

woody14619 2013-04-22 15:04

Re: [ELECTIONS] Board announces HFC elections
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by joerg_rw (Post 1337800)
I'm nominating/suggesting for (mcc/hfc) council:

Please note, to be official, all nominations/acceptances should be mailed to the community mailing list. Posting here or in the MCC election announcement thread is nice (as mail is sometimes slow), but the "official" channel is the mailing list.

I note you did that, but wanted to make it clear to those you nominated that they need to accept that way as well. :)
EDIT: Please do comment in-thread as well, since if you e-mail is held for "moderation" which some users seem to be getting, it may not be seen in the list.

Quote:

Originally Posted by joerg_rw (Post 1337827)
On Sun 21 April 2013 22:32:12 robert bauer wrote:
> I'd like to see statements as well - especially for Hildon Foundation
> Council where there is an opportunity for hard reset of membership
> process/criteria and/or election criteria.

This is true. In that regard I suggest (like Joerg_rw has) that any future MCC/HFC consider that if changes are needed there should be extensive community input on the topic. The last time these rules were changed/made there was an official vote of the community, which I think is a good practice overall.

This would not preclude putting the current method into writing as soon as HFC is in place however, as the ByLaws explicitly allow the MCC/HFC to tweak and change those rules for several months once they're in place before they become hard-set and need super majority approval to change. (Again an indicator that these rules were in place not to allow a random change, but to accommodate for the fact that when written we did not know how things would pan out over the next 6 months, and if servers would even be up at that time.)

Dave999 2013-04-22 15:16

Re: [ELECTIONS] Board announces HFC elections
 
Anyone officially nominated yet?

sixwheeledbeast 2013-04-22 18:18

Re: [ELECTIONS] Board announces HFC elections
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1337951)
Anyone officially nominated yet?

DocScrutinizer (joerg_rw)
merlin1991
kerio
khm

and (drumroll)

I accept the nomination/suggestion for the maemo community council & hildon foundation council.
Sent to mailing-list as well.

:)

jalyst 2013-04-22 18:22

Re: [ELECTIONS] Board announces HFC elections
 
Good progress thus far....
Do we have a "relatively" even balance between old school Maemo & new school Maemo (i.e. Harmattan)?
Or is it some something like 90/10 Freemantle(or older)/Harmattan?

thedead1440 2013-04-22 18:33

Re: [ELECTIONS] Board announces HFC elections
 
My email to the mailing list:

Quote:

Hi all,

I accept the nominations for MCC & HFC.

I hope to carry out the wishes of the Community at large if elected into both Councils.


Regards,
thedead1440


P.S. chemist, you haven't sent in your acceptance yet; please do asap before the deadline ;)

Dave999 2013-04-22 18:44

Re: [ELECTIONS] Board announces HFC elections
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sixwheeledbeast (Post 1338011)
DocScrutinizer (joerg_rw)
merlin1991
kerio
khm

and (drumroll)

I accept the nomination/suggestion for the maemo community council & hildon foundation council.
Sent to mailing-list as well.

:)

Exellent, seems like a solid crew. For a second I thought I had take over as King of TMO but with the names I can rule in the reall world instead.


Edit: @thedead.do you intend to keep your moderator rights if elected. Personally I don't want to see moderators in the HF or CC. Don't like when people are both jury, judge and executioner. What's your thought on that?

Btw I think you are an Exellent moderator and would be an excellent council+ier, just not both at the same time

Edit 2 : Same question to chemist.

Kerio 2013-04-22 19:31

Re: [ELECTIONS] Board announces HFC elections
 
I'm not entirely sure we need some kind of balance between fremantle users and harmattan users; while the community council does indeed speak for the community, the HiFo business is strictly fremantle-only, so it's to be expected that we get more interest from the "old-school" side of the maemo community.

Kerio 2013-04-22 19:35

Re: [ELECTIONS] Board announces HFC elections
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by joerg_rw (Post 1337647)
For this to work, you (the community) need to vote "yes" on referendum, and vote identical on both MMC and HFC vote, so this results in same persons in those two entities.

I don't think that this has been spread around enough; will it be written somewhere, by the time the election comes?

joerg_rw 2013-04-22 19:41

Re: [ELECTIONS] Board announces HFC elections
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kerio (Post 1338041)
I don't think that this has been spread around enough; will it be written somewhere, by the time the election comes?

MT been asked to post an official council statement about it


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