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nodevel 2013-06-06 15:54

Re: So, what should a qwerty other half look like?
 
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Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1350015)
You are far too young... :)

That red "button" is in fact a nipple and is used for controlling the mouse cursor. Kinda like a tiny joystick. It was used on laptops before touchpads were invented.

I don't think it's about age. Professional laptops (i.e. Lenovo Thinkpad) still have it and it rocks.

Back to the topic, as I mentioned in another thread, I think there will be problem with the camera - how are you gonna have the keyboard on and shoot pictures at the same time?

_David_ 2013-06-06 16:46

Re: So, what should a qwerty other half look like?
 
http://jdtr.pagesperso-orange.fr/struc/psion3.jpg

The 'chocolate square' pyramidal shape is important. Also, note no 'bezel'.

mikecomputing 2013-06-06 16:51

Re: So, what should a qwerty other half look like?
 
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Originally Posted by AMD (Post 1350010)
Hey, what does this red button do?

Its a extra "cursor navigator" forgot whats its called but...

http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops...ir=y#techspecs

qwazix 2013-06-06 17:31

Re: So, what should a qwerty other half look like?
 
clit mouse

bennypr0fane 2013-06-06 18:16

Re: So, what should a qwerty other half look like?
 
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Quote:

Originally Posted by qwazix (Post 1350045)
clit mouse

..is the term whose German equivalent we use in German. :-D

- The qwerty should be the same build quality as N900, but more spacious, with 4 or 5 rows at least, and 4 cursor keys for *all* the languages.
- I don't think it's necessary to have the keybaord open while using the camera app. Do you know of any scenario using the cam on N900 where you need that?
- How many different localizations of the hw qwerty would be needed only in Europe? Are there any 2 European languages that have the same kb layout?
I wonder if that could be one huge barrier for Jolla, that may make them rethink twice doing their own qwerty half, because I imagine the many localizations would be a bigger cost factor in production and maybe also require a larger effort to integrate software-wise than having just a (crappy f***in'-stupid old) vkb.
Does anyone happen to know more about this?
- Be that as it may, Jolla are big giant a***oles if they don't make a proper qwerty and I'll never forgive them if they don't. Every single fan page out there is stuffed with requests and questions about hardware qwerty! I'm sure like 80% of people who already know about Jolla and are interested want a qwerty, and they just go like "yeah, whatevs". Company that listens my a*s.

bennypr0fane 2013-06-06 18:26

Re: So, what should a qwerty other half look like?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by _David_ (Post 1350029)
http://jdtr.pagesperso-orange.fr/struc/psion3.jpg

The 'chocolate square' pyramidal shape is important. Also, note no 'bezel'.

that would make for too long a keydrop IMO and slow you down.

setter 2013-06-06 18:31

Re: So, what should a qwerty other half look like?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1350015)
You are far too young... :)

That red "button" is in fact a nipple and is used for controlling the mouse cursor. Kinda like a tiny joystick. It was used on laptops before touchpads were invented.

And it is much better than a touchpad, much better.

setter 2013-06-06 18:32

Re: So, what should a qwerty other half look like?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bennypr0fane (Post 1350058)
that would make for too long a keydrop IMO and slow you down.

I had this device and I still have two of them in my possession.

nodevel 2013-06-06 18:38

Re: So, what should a qwerty other half look like?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bennypr0fane (Post 1350056)
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- I don't think it's necessary to have the keybaord open while using the camera app. Do you know of any scenario using the cam on N900 where you need that?

I don't think you understand what I'm saying. I'm not talking about using the keyboard, just about having the keyboard other half on. While on N900, you have the camera on the back side of the keyboard, on Jolla it is (if such thing as keyboard exists) in between the keyboard and the screen.

To be more illustrative:
grab your N900 in portrait mode and imagine the screen is Jolla and the keyboard (the actual device) is the other half and you have the camera placed on the front part. With keyboard closed, there's no way you could take pictures.
Now open the keyboard - you would be able to take pictures if the camera was on the right side, but guess what... Jolla has it on the left.

Alecsandru 2013-06-06 18:59

Re: So, what should a qwerty other half look like?
 
maybe a hole for camera "anything you can imagine"


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