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mailcomx 2013-06-27 05:34
Re: N900 Made in Finland purchased on Ebay, Isīt Original?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Garrett_PL (Post 1354858)
Well I had the same two white spots on my 1th N900, after few months the display was gone. The housing was brand new, and the sticker under battery also was saying "MADE IN FINLAND". IMEI number was correct, and so on. But the sticker was like some kid stick it there, and it was diferent to stickers on rest of my devives (one I currently own, and one I sold here on TMO - history of those was clear and true "Made in Korea" used for few hours).
So the one from "FINLAND" had 300+ hours of talk time - imagine that (and where is using / playing if You wish, time).

You have to know, that all "china new" devices are geniuine (I'm not saying anything about funny fake things that only looks like N900 and You'll know they are fake from first boot up), but all of them are refurbished devices with houndreds hours of using behind, or for example minor faults that had been repaired. The whole housing is new, most good quality, or even the same quality as geniuine product.

There is no point in comparing speed, parts, etc. As both Your devices are Nokia's products. The only thing is, one of them was nearly dead, and had whole hosing changed + mayby mUSB reinforced / repaired.

Best way to find out, what's the story behind is scan it with Phoenix sw. Then You will find out few interesting things - like life timer (which can not be changed, and it's counting from new).
Looking Here:

286:49:05 CALLS ALL


Product type RX-51
MCU SW version RX-51_21.2011.38.1 V 0.0.000 RX-51 (c) NOKIA
APE SW Core version Nokia N900 (RX-51 rev 2101) Maemo 5 (21.2011.38.1) Linux version 2.6.28.10-power52 Product 0595421A
IMEI plain XXXXXX03XXXXXXX
IMEI spare to net XXXXXX03XXXXXXX
IMEI SV to net XXXXXX03XXXXXXX
Production serial number MUM4XXXXX
Product code 059xxxxx
Module code 020xxxxx
Basic production code
Product specific data 10 24 0 0 0
ATO
Default SN type 0
CS type
HW version 2101
APE HW version RX-51 rev 2101
RFIC version |Vapaus_5.1 | Aura_?.?
DSP version ICPR82_10w08
Bootcode version 1.4.14
APE Variant version 0595421A
APE Test version RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_MR0
Retu version 34
Tahvo version 00
Content Version HardDisk Drive RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.VANILLA
MCU checksum 01 05 02
Bluetooth ID XXXXXXXXXXX

mailcomx 2013-06-27 19:35
Re: N900 Made in Finland purchased on Ebay, Isīt genuine?
 
I was thinking that LIFE TIMER hours could be due to a stressful test that Nokia makes their phones. This Phone working really well. I'm going to disassemble this device. I need to know if the screen is genuine and if I can fix the white spots, and so I can see if the USB was repaired.

razefox2 2013-06-28 10:35
Re: N900 Made in Finland purchased on Ebay, Isīt genuine?
 
Don't buy anything on ebay from China/Hong Kong,
most likely a fake.

Found a video on youtube explaining the differences
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Xd7IVCV3Jg

Garrett_PL 2013-06-28 12:48
Re: N900 Made in Finland purchased on Ebay, Isīt genuine?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mailcomx (Post 1355211)
I was thinking that LIFE TIMER hours could be due to a stressful test that Nokia makes their phones. This Phone working really well. I'm going to disassemble this device. I need to know if the screen is genuine and if I can fix the white spots, and so I can see if the USB was repaired.
No man, it's not because stressful tests in Nokia HQ or basements. It's pure talk time made by it's user. So You are close to 300 hours, man that's a lot - so my advice is - don't try to find something which is not geniuine, and enjoy the ''N900'' when You still can.

You won't be able to fix the white spots, without changing the display. I read somewhere (but it might be just something like TT - TheoX Teory) that white spots appears after overclocking to high levels. But again that's only like roomer or TT news - as You wish.

Anyway, just use it before it's too late - and the end is close for this one, belive me man.

edit: right, there is no need to hide Product Code, since it's just language version / provider version. It's safe, You are all right, can come out.

48GX 2013-06-28 13:10
Re: N900 Made in Finland purchased on Ebay, Isīt genuine?
 
300 hours talk time is a lot???????? it isn't

1670hours nokia 9500!

Garrett_PL 2013-06-28 13:18
Re: N900 Made in Finland purchased on Ebay, Isīt genuine?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 48GX (Post 1355340)
300 hours talk time is a lot???????? it isn't

1670hours nokia 9500!
Well I can see the diference between single models, so when You compare N900 to (I'll choose ...) 6310 / 6310i - You will have big values here, because it was phone made for talking, nearly only for phone calls, right?
Do You have Yours N900 life timer? Can You share it? Is it something to be proud of?

mailcomx 2013-07-02 14:29
Re: N900 Made in Finland purchased on Ebay, Isīt genuine?
 
Sorry, I Opened other new thread, about this questions: Just follow here.

These days, itīs possible to get a new genuine N900 made ​​in Korea?

Days ago I bought a phone from Ebay and everything is perfect and it works great except for the screen that has two white spots. I think it is repaired, even though the seller said it was new. also says MADE IN FINLAND.
With the serial number. It is possible to know if this device was repaired? and what was the problem? Because if this phone only has two spots on the screen. I can live with that without problems ...

mailcomx 2013-07-11 04:45
Re: N900 Made in Finland purchased on Ebay, Isīt genuine?
 
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I decided to disassemble my two N900 because really at the end to compare both found the of made in finland (2101 version) is faster and maintains a low temperature in the CPU that it is made in korea (version 2104). This device bought on Ebay on your motherboard contains components from Japan and the other device made ​​in Korea has components from VIETNAM . I also checked if there were any USB port repair, apparently nothing. Upload photos for an expert opinion.
Because I found some small differences indicated there.

stonebuilt 2013-07-17 22:34
Re: N900 Made in Finland purchased on Ebay, Isīt genuine?
 
..... Interesting

ranbaxy 2013-07-18 05:42
Re: N900 Made in Finland purchased on Ebay, Isīt Original?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mailcomx (Post 1354719)
Then it made ​​in Finland Original? :) This is an example I found IMEI out of my doubts:

*" After pressing This code, you will see a 15-digit number on the screen time immediately Which is called IME number.

The number Might be as below:
3 6 9 3 9 5 0 3 2 3 5 5 6 7 8

Now look at the 7th and 8th digit. These two digits will Ensure your phone's quality! "

If is 03 should be made ​​in korea. And if I were in Finland should be 00. Am I wrong? Thank you.
Yes, the 7th and 8th digit identifies the place of manufacture of the phone.

These are the digits in IMEI.
[TAC] Type Approval Code (6 digits)
[FAC] Final Assembly Code identifies the place of manufacture/final assembly (2 digits)
[SNR] Serial Number is an individual serial number uniquely identifying each equipment within each TAC and FAC (6 digits)
[CD ] Check Digit (Also referred as SD Spare Digit) (1 digit)


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