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nokiabot 2013-11-26 03:22

Re: Darwin/ARM running on a Nokia N900
 
in 2050 there will be ios 3 in n900:D

Boemien 2013-11-26 20:52

Re: Darwin/ARM running on a Nokia N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nokiabot (Post 1389016)
in 2050 there will be ios 3 in n900:D

Hmmm I don't think so, maybe on Neo900 :p:p:p

By the way, it has been said in websites posted in comments above, that this project is in a non-UI state at this time, but what are the benefits of porting on the N900, will we be able to run OSX/iOS apps through command line, and from a long term view, will it be possible to port an UI on this???

b-man 2013-11-27 01:35

Re: Darwin/ARM running on a Nokia N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Boemien (Post 1389178)
Hmmm I don't think so, maybe on Neo900 :p:p:p

By the way, it has been said in websites posted in comments above, that this project is in a non-UI state at this time, but what are the benefits of porting on the N900, will we be able to run OSX/iOS apps through command line, and from a long term view, will it be possible to port an UI on this???

The primary goal for this project is to make an open source implementation of Darwin for arm. The N900 is just one of several testing platforms being used to reach this goal.

As for GUI support, this should be attainable by adapting a version of OSX's IOGraphics for the kernel (apple already uses an embedded profile of IOGraphics for the iOS kernel).

Also to note, some iOS kernel extensions, like AppleMobileFileIntegrity, already work without problems with this kernel.

winocm 2013-11-30 04:35

Re: Darwin/ARM running on a Nokia N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hurrian (Post 1388404)
It's all open sauce.

A little birdie told me this only builds properly on Linux hosts ('buntu 13.10 confirmed OK); building with the target OMAP3430_RX51 produces a binary you can combine with GenericBooter which passes... stuff along from the boot environment (u-boot) to the xnu kernel.

The little birdie also told me that a real N900 on-hand (this was ported first to the N900 QEMU...) would help - you may want to send the guy one to help 'em along!

Birdie also notes that the recommended userland filesystem package for this would be iPhone OS 4.3.5. Accelerated graphics don't work for now, so you're stuck in console (non-single user at least!) mode.

This would also be semi-effortlessly portable to the N9/50 if a u-boot port was made. The N900 port is a good place to start.

Hardware keyboard doesn't work. Yet, at least. Use the serial console if you need it.

I did make a nice keyboard driver this week. Getting an N900 might be really nice for development purposes. :)

Currently, I do debug in QEMU and I have other people test the kernels on their hardware.

Luckily, not so much of the kernel is platform dependent, so I can do debug on my BeagleBoard xM, or an iPhone 4. Let me know if you can get me an N900 for development. I would really appreciate it.

oenthaa 2015-01-18 20:27

Re: Darwin/ARM running on a Nokia N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by b-man (Post 1389221)
The primary goal for this project is to make an open source implementation of Darwin for arm. The N900 is just one of several testing platforms being used to reach this goal.

As for GUI support, this should be attainable by adapting a version of OSX's IOGraphics for the kernel (apple already uses an embedded profile of IOGraphics for the iOS kernel).

Also to note, some iOS kernel extensions, like AppleMobileFileIntegrity, already work without problems with this kernel.

im confused

juiceme 2015-01-18 20:32

Re: Darwin/ARM running on a Nokia N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by oenthaa (Post 1457147)
im confused

Please elaborate?

oenthaa 2015-01-18 20:39

Re: Darwin/ARM running on a Nokia N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1457149)
Please elaborate?

I read this post , but I always fail to boot . what is wrong ? I use ubuntu 14 64bit .

juiceme 2015-01-18 20:51

Re: Darwin/ARM running on a Nokia N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by oenthaa (Post 1457152)
I read this post , but I always fail to boot . what is wrong ? I use ubuntu 14 64bit .

Could be any of dozens of things. Booting to alternative OS'es is not a trivial thing.

Wikiwide 2015-01-19 03:12

Re: Darwin/ARM running on a Nokia N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by winocm (Post 1390985)
I did make a nice keyboard driver this week. Getting an N900 might be really nice for development purposes. :)

Currently, I do debug in QEMU and I have other people test the kernels on their hardware.

Luckily, not so much of the kernel is platform dependent, so I can do debug on my BeagleBoard xM, or an iPhone 4. Let me know if you can get me an N900 for development. I would really appreciate it.

Quick question...

Hmm... I would gladly get you one (not my own, though ;-) ). Maybe, this one?

Any news? I have read Milestone One; and I see GitHub is alive.

Would you consider using GNUstep as GUI, with time?

Thank you. Best wishes.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Per aspera ad astra...

Wikiwide 2015-01-19 04:13

Re: Darwin/ARM running on a Nokia N900
 
A link...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU-Darwin
Thank you. Best wishes.


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