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szopin 2015-05-28 19:49

Re: A Sailfish YotaPhone exists
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bluefoot (Post 1471764)
That's my point. The Russian minister claimed that it would be "completely open" in June, when SF2.0 is released. I can only assume this is total ********, given what Jolla said (there is a roadmap for opening stuff etc etc we will disclose later but some stuff will remain closed). Presumably made up on the spot to make it sound more compelling.

Article:
http://techcrunch.com/2015/05/28/jol...rging-markets/
Antti Saarnio is not a russian minister, yet, the only bits they cannot (third party commercial, so not silica, maybe MS stuff) open will remain closed

ste-phan 2015-05-28 19:52

Re: A Sailfish YotaPhone exists
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by szopin (Post 1471761)
or is it all chinese components just packaged into a 'russian' phone?)

Designed in Russia and manufactured in China / Singapore, with the typical global components.

http://liliputing.com/2015/01/yotaph...treatment.html

Baikal Electronics is working hard to make socs but I think its first targeting to replace the solutions of "the Americans" in desktop / notebooks.

bluefoot 2015-05-28 20:01

Re: A Sailfish YotaPhone exists
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by szopin (Post 1471765)
Article:
http://techcrunch.com/2015/05/28/jol...rging-markets/
Antti Saarnio is not a russian minister, yet, the only bits they cannot (third party commercial, so not silica, maybe MS stuff) open will remain closed

Please read again and interpret the differences between his statement, and the one by the Russian minister who claims it will be completely open (including UI) in June-July when SF2 releases. To make it easy for you, here is what he said:


Nikolai Nikiforov, Communications Minister in Russia, shares to Kommersant, Russia:

"There are a number of private components associated with user interfaces [in SailfishOS], but they will be open around June-July. Since the release of the second version of the operating system is completely open environment for collaborative development and participation of all the professionals of the international community ..."

szopin 2015-05-28 20:04

Re: A Sailfish YotaPhone exists
 
To make it easy for you: silica is NOT third party component

Like I said, what have the romans ever did to us? Don't let the hate blind you and read the bloody article to the end

bluefoot 2015-05-28 20:09

Re: A Sailfish YotaPhone exists
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by szopin (Post 1471768)
To make it easy for you: silica is NOT third party component

Like I said, what have the romans ever did to us? Don't let the hate blind you and read the bloody article to the end

Either you are completely blind or trolling really hard.

Saarnio states nowhere that anything will be done by June-July, let alone "everything". He says there is a roadmap, which has yet to be disclosed. Why would there even be a roadmap if it was all going to be done in the next 8 weeks? Also, as you point out, they can't open source bits they don't own. Again contradicting what the Russian minister says.

szopin 2015-05-28 20:13

Re: A Sailfish YotaPhone exists
 
Lol, just lol, haters gonna hate, here you have jolla officially state they will open whole of _their_ source, bbbbut mah narrative, russian minister who cares??? This article has jolla as source not some russian official, go hate harder

ste-phan 2015-05-28 20:14

Re: A Sailfish YotaPhone exists
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bluefoot (Post 1471769)
Either you are completely blind or trolling really hard.

Saarnio states nowhere that anything will be done by June-July, let alone "everything". He says there is a roadmap, which has yet to be disclosed. Why would there even be a roadmap if it was all going to be done in the next 8 weeks? Also, as you point out, they can't open source bits they don't own. Again contradicting what the Russian minister says.

If the minister can't won't open the bits, who will. Let's hope this minister knows which strings to pull to keep his promise / statement true.

szopin 2015-05-28 22:08

Re: A Sailfish YotaPhone exists
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ste-phan (Post 1471766)
Designed in Russia and manufactured in China / Singapore, with the typical global components.

http://liliputing.com/2015/01/yotaph...treatment.html

Baikal Electronics is working hard to make socs but I think its first targeting to replace the solutions of "the Americans" in desktop / notebooks.

Quote:

Baikal Electronics is a fabless semiconductor company specializing in ARM-based and MIPS-based processors and systems on a chip (SoC). The Baikal family of multicore processors includes energy-efficient solutions for desktops and industrial computers with various levels of performance and ...
Is ARM on desktop a thing?

Kangal 2015-05-29 04:24

Re: A Sailfish YotaPhone exists
 
Does anyone not realize that SailfishOS on the Jolla/Jolla 2/Jolla Tablet or its open-sourced project counterpart would be (very) different to Russia's SailfishOS solution. Be it as a project on github or on the YotaPhone.

It might be a case of similar to Android on Nexus devices, the AOSP code, and a device like the Amazon Fire Phone.

Related, but not the same, and not the same level of openness.

jalyst 2015-05-29 04:42

Re: A Sailfish YotaPhone exists
 
We just don't know a lot of stuff yet, we have to wait & see what the full plans & approach is;
I highly doubt the localised version for the CIS market will be as open (or more) as the trunk variant of Sailfish.
But, the Russians may surprise us in that respect...


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