Re: Third Internet Tablet spotted on FCC
 

Sure you're not jumping to conclusions?

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I most probably am! :)

Re: Third Internet Tablet spotted on FCC
 

if they're using intel wimax chips, what are the chances that they might moving away from the ARM stuff in the future?

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One has nothing to do with the other.

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maybe not technically, but business-wise. If Nokia likes their relationship with Intel...

I guess that's too much speculation though.

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Today's Seattle Times has a front page photo of presumably the Nokia WiMax model with an exclusive front page story in their Business section, also with the photo of the Nokia (among other WiMax models). http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...2_wimax27.html

Re: Third Internet Tablet spotted on FCC
 

I see the Samsung P9000, a Samsung modem and the regular N800 in your article.

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The photo of the Nokia on page two of the Business section has indeed the label on it of N800 but the screen has different icons, with an enlarged keyboard and a sample message saying "Hi Sun! Nice to see you on-line again!"

Re: Third Internet Tablet spotted on FCC
 

It's the thumbboard that you're seeing. And that text tells me that they used the same promo photo of the N800 that they've been using since before the N800 launched.

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...and although other manufacturers have actually been showing off WiMax equipment - Nokia were only mentioned as someone who will be providing equipment in the future. I think it's therefore fair to say that whatever the FCC tested, it's not a WiMax version (especially as the deal with Intel was done after the FCC tested the device).

This at least means that after this device comes out, we'll still have the WiMax device to start rumours about when it will be available, and for Texrat to either join in, or go strangely quiet about... ;)

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Lots of public announcements are made well after companies have been internally collaborating on a project. The USB-WiMax modem in those pictures is very promising. Perhaps we'll see a WiMax modem on a SD card that could be retrofitted to the existing tablet lineup!

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I wouldn't be at all surprised if we see two or more tablets all come out in a short period, Nokia's infrastructure is geared towards designing and mass producing many different devices based on the same platform. They release about 40 new phone models every year, which is getting close to one a week.

On the other hand, it's easy to fund development of 40 different phones if you're selling a million units a day. Tablets sell far more slowly than phones.

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indeed - I suspect we're going to see something of interest in the next few weeks, with a WiMax version of either that or the N800 (or both) in the new year.

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so we are getting a gps version of a tablet, quite possibly an n800 upgrade.

and then also a wimax model?

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There you go.

Some of the speculation is funny. I mean, you guys have enough hard info to come to reasonable conclusions about what is coming out and when. Seriously. I don't have to say another word. It's all available.

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Hmm. I wonder what the typical sales rate of cell phones was when they were initially introduced... ;)

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The facts so far are that the FCC has just tested a new tablet with GPS, but with no obvious WiMax testing. Nokia, Sprint and others have announced that Nokia will be producing a WiMax Internet Tablet for release in 2008.

Those are the facts. It's fair to assume we're getting a new tablet "soon" with GPS, and then there will be a WiMax tablet in 2008.

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Did anyone see this photo:

http://blog.seattletimes.nwsource.co...loor%20018.jpg

I always thought it would be great to have a DIN that fit the N800. It would be great for GPS, several GB's of MP3's, FM radio, WiMAX, etc.. Throw in SKYPE, bluetooth headset you're ready to go. Plus take it with you...

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more coverage...

http://arstechnica.com/journals/hard...ablets-in-2008

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The article makes a good point about sunlight and the screen. Even though I agree it's not the best solution, I'm thinking a dash mount with a shade would help.

Built-in GPS only makes sense. It would be great to use the N800 in the car to get to the proximate destination, take the device out and then use it in portable fashion for the "last 100 meters"... without needing an external module.

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I know it's highly doubtful, but I hope Nokia will give us an upgrade path to the newer tablets. I know they didn't do it before... but it would be a nice way to show their appreciation for those of us that have been trying to help the tablets improve through bugzilla or code contributions.

Wishful thinking.

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I think they have -15% for going from 770 to n800 at the moment. I'm not saying that that would be a big deduction, but some still.

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The n800 will be supported for at least the next two major releases according to the news item on maemo.org not so long ago (http://maemo.org/news/announcements/...84675758.html), so that provides some sort of upgrade path.

I'm just hoping that this new device has a built-in keyboard!


Simon

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No, it doesn't.

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For him to have said that, maybe he just has a different opinion on what upgrade path means.

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I'm hoping for a transflective screen!

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Yes. I was meaning that the N800 will have software support and (I therefore presume) updates for the next two releases.

I suppose that the developer discount programme is really the "hardware upgrade path" zerojay was talking about.


Simon

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I'm going to ask an ignorant question. Could the FCC documents filed so far for the 3rd tablet be incomplete with respect to the testing that was done for the connectivity options? In other words, does Nokia have to necessarily disclose all the connectivity options now, or could they follow up at a later date with an addendum to the specs and test report?

Re: Third Internet Tablet spotted on FCC
 

Remember, this is the FCC doing the testing, not Nokia, and any "unpublished" findings would be seen as favoritism and would be illegal. If Nokia "amended" their device it would be a new device and would have to be retested.

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If the rx-44 had WiMAX, wouldn't it have a WiMAX mac address listed on the fcc label?
Assuming it doesn't that means:
1. Nokia will be releasing two ( or more ) tablets pretty soon, or
2. WiMAX will be an add-on device such as a usb or sdio card.


To learn more technical details about WiMAX, check the link below. Evidence that WiMAX uses a mac address is on page 27. Definition of SS on page 10.
http://www.ieee802.org/16/docs/01/80216-01_58r1.pdf

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hey, i know anyone else didnt mention this. but.


HEY NOKIA! PUT MORE RAM AND A FASTER PROCESSOR/VIDEO PROCESSOR IN THE NEXT ONES!!! christ these things are slow.

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hehe!!! i love it !! let me throw my 2 cents in right here....

AND HOW 'BOUT A FREEKING TRANSFLECTVE SCREEN!!! i'd really like to use this thing OUTSIDE.

:mad: :D :mad: :D :mad: :D

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I hope it doesn't. I'm a touch-typist and I can't use those cramped-style slide-out keyboards. For me it would just add to the cost and size of the device and be just a waste.

A transflective screen though.. that would be great! Could use the tablet outside in bright daylight then, which isn't really possible with the N800. Of course the display would have to be as good as the current display is in other respects (viewing angle, brigthness etc.)

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"HEY NOKIA! PUT MORE RAM AND A FASTER PROCESSOR/VIDEO PROCESSOR IN THE NEXT ONES!!"

And the driver for the video processor ...

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the whole wimax thing - is there an existing "broadcast" system for it anywhere in the world yet? I'm fairly sure that there isn't in the UK.

maybe a sim-type "add-on" would be the obvious thing for it, rather than including a hard0wired functionality that won't be able to be used by many?

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I know in Ireland Eircom are test wimax (not-officially) and so are a lot of the main Colleges in Ireland (DCU and Trinity I can confirm have wimax).

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*sigh*

Why didn't they go back to the 770 form factor? IMO the N800 looks like crap.

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If WiMax introduction on the N800 from Sprint/Nokia takes the form of a WiMax SDIO card, rather than having it built-in to the hardware, then this 3rd tablet could be the launch platform for WiMax in the IT line. Then all the pieces make sense, and there is only one IT coming out later this year or early next year. Intel is producing the WiMax SDIO card by arrangement with Nokia, and Nokia has partnered with Sprint to be the WiMax carrier. Then all we are looking at in the 3rd IT is an additional GPS built-in, and a new firmware to take advantage of the WiMax SDIO. That would be a great upgrade path for existing IT users, don't you think. But then again, it is probably just wishful thinking on my part :)

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I think the 770 looks like crap.

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That would be pretty much ideal.