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Why no option to buy it with Sailfish pre-installed and supported?

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If there is no support from Jolla, then how can you expect official Sailfish-option?

Re: Something is Coming - F(x)tec announces new device
 

There is and has been support from Jolla towards the community porters.

And still, they are missing out the (small) hype train...
Could have been really fruitfull imo. Are they just too cautious after Turing Flawbotics and the likes?
Maybe the 2nd Tablet try hurt?

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I think I made a mistake ordering Pro X. Waiting is something I m not good at and when they have announced shipping in march, I am not too optimistic to get the phone in march (even though I have my birthday then). So waiting without deadline when waiting will end is a bummer.

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Couldn't agree more. If it had official sailfish support i would order it without blinking an eye. But seeing the overall slow development of sailfish i'm starting to look for alternatives but there really aren't many.

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Should have jumped on the 'pre Christmas' one but dithered while trying to look for info on Ubuntu Touch (thought Ubuntu phones died years ago) and it sold out.

10-12 weeks for the standard model is sooner than March but not sure my phone will last that long, plus it's still way bigger than I'd like (but pretty much every phone is :mad:)

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Bummer on your missing that. :( I'm likewise bummed that my previous experience with indiegogo (not fxtec-related at all) was only successfully resolved with the involvement of attorneys. I don't think I can use them again (barring them singing the "I'm very sorry" song) even for a totally different project. I've got an outstanding order for a Pro1 (non-X) from F(x)tec that I'm still waiting for that maybe will get some upgrade love with this new(ish) device announced.

For anyone interested, I like the SFOS interface better, but Ubuntu Touch is not bad at all. I use it on and off on a OnePlus One, and it's a capable daily driver for calls, SMS, MMS, web browsing. I think the addition of Pure Maps has improved navigation greatly, but haven't tested thoroughly enough yet. And focusing on the camera seems to have regressed lately, at least on my hardware. The implementation of Tux Racer is a blast!

The onscreen terminal keyboard, though, is way behind Sailfish. SFOS has just about all the keys you need at your fingertips without booster keys or long-press functions or what-not to do the usual bash stuff. But of course, the HWKB solves this problem nicely.

(Now for me what I'd like to see happen is to just slap that cool blue X case on my in process Pro1 order and ship that puppy to me. Oh yeah, and I'd like to be able to multi-boot SFOS, Leste and Ubuntu Touch.)

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For any one thinking about getting involved I noticed this link whilst looking around:
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/p...ken=2c0a82a4#/
There is currently 18 left at 28% off (USD639).
Shame I found it after backing for $679. I am also not that keen how the number of discounted perks keep changing, meaning some, including me have paid higher than currently available.
Anywhere, lets hope for a great port or official releas of SFOS.
Thanks All.

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Now there are 30 left (the upper limit is moving:).

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Hi. Been awhile... Do you have to pick between Lineage and Ubuntu or can you dual boot? Thanks!

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For the campaign you choose which one is pre-installed and thus logo engraved on the back. Dualboot is worked on and they committed in a tweet and IGG comment to try having it ready when shipping starts.
Until that, manual reflash to Lineage/Ubports should be trivial to test the one out you did not order preflashed.

What i just assume is that the sfos port from Pro¹ should also work on Pro¹-X since only memories have been upgraded. Any more educated guess on that?

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Very very tempting!

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The SFOS port for pinephone did not initially boot on the convergence edition pinephone with more RAM until the bootloader (I think) was updated. So a guess educated by a kinda similar scenario . . . YMMV

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so is this thing running mainline yet or is it still android driver blobs required for all the ports I've started seeing?

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Yes, the port will work since it is same device regarding hardware. May need a kernel update, but nothing serious.

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All ports run using libhybris currently.
You will notice a strong disturbance in the TMO-force when all is mainlined.

@TheKit, great! Thank you as always :)

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I wonder if this will also mean dualboot for the original Pro1? I'd really like the option of being able to reboot into Android occasionally instead of being locked to a single OS.

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So who else is drooling all over this thing, but put off by the fact that
1. Shipping time for Fxtec Pro is still supposedly 10-12 weeks (that means after X-Mas, which is later than they are promising Super Early Bird shipping for the Pro X).
2. If you order one now, you still can't really be sure you're gonna get it, because all the pre-orders haven't even shipped yet.

So the first product is barely out the door, and possibly never makes it to normal production - where normal people can, you know, just order it. But they're already announcing the next big thing?

#waitforhalfayear #butmaybestillnothing

No matter, they are already comfortably above their funding goal, so something or another is gonna happen.

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1. correct.

2. Just judging from the missing backlash one can quite securely claim that the preorders have all been delivered. The remaining deliveries must have been ordered "regulary" at a later point in time which is still possible if you like the black 6GB/128GB version for 718€ more than the blue 8GB/265GB for 606€ https://store.fxtec.com/product/fxtec-pro1/.

3. Despite the (XDA) marketing, it is not a new product but the smart move to get Pro¹/X sales going by advertising a core feature (open bootloader) to an audience that was not quite aware.

And yes, i am still drooling everyday over the Pro¹ and preordered an X just for the awesome blue and to not having to temper with my "Perfect sfos daily driver"¹ to test UBports and possibly Leste somewhen in the future.

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Two weeks further and still no mention of the Pro1 in de ubports devices section.
I know there are some ports floating around but I'd like one form an official source like ubports.

Edit: Hm, after reading further on the ubports forum it seems the port can only have been made by fxtec itself. Maybe with help from XDA? Ubports only provides documentation and maybe assistence to communities to help in porting to new devices.

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https://ubports.com/blog/ubport-blog...ch-q-a-88-3729

With (just a little bit more) patience and more news will come.

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@chenliangchen, thanks for the update!
I'm just hyped to try it out so don't mind me :)

Are there any plans for a mainline kernel?

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Not directly relevant to the -X variant, but this seems as good a place as any to spam my review of the Pro1 featuring @mosen and @Kabouik :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXDkbUzGthw

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Could we hope that the F(x)tec Pro1 and Pro1X will get a long support from LineageOS (and maybe other platforms) like in maybe a few years (5-6-7)?
I am sick of devices that you buy, you flash with LineageOS (in my case) and after a few months or a year the support is not there anymore.
I am looking to replace my Samsung Galaxy S7 which lost LineageOS support a long time ago and I am reluctant in choosing a new model as I don't want to keep it only a year or 2 (my S7 is still working really well and it is fulfilling my needs so I wouldn't have to change it if it had proper OS/software support).
F(x)tec phone has a lot of cons but the most important one for me would be proper support from a community (like in many many years) and it would be a dream to have Maemo Leste on it.
Waiting also for a stable release of the Pinephone (even if it seems to be a long way until we reach that).

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I don't think anyone at TMO needs proof that a hardware keyboard is convenient, but we never know. :D

With: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jx0lvGAdzsg

Without: https://youtu.be/FBslv1aNZ_c

The attachments show how both videos were unloaded from the camera, encoded using ffmpeg and uploaded using the Pro1. I wanted to check how feasible it would be. :D Turns out it was not bad, encoded at 0.330 to 0.600x.

http://talk.maemo.org/attachment.php...1&d=1605378667
http://talk.maemo.org/attachment.php...1&d=1605378679

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I don't know much about LineageOS Malakai, but my guess is the Pro1 being quite unique, chances are good that the LineageOS maintainers will keep supporting it for as long as they can, at least until a better replacement exists, and I don't see any in the near future (the Pro1x is basically the same device with more storage, RAM and a different layout, they'll both run the same rom). Just like how the N900 stayed afloat for years with CSSU and now Leste to replace closed source bits because there was no alternative.

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I'm really not worried about this because of the enthousiasm from the community that we've seen so far. There's enough people that can't live without a hardware keyboard that software being maintained is basically guaranteed for the coming half a decade and maybe more.

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Thanks to netmans awesome and detailed review I now really want to get a Pro 1 X. Sometimes Android Apps are necessary and my Droid 4 struggles with Android 7. The possibilities with Sailfish or in the future maybe even Leste are intriguing.

I am on the verge of contributing, but two things are still holding me back:
- My own rule: Never preorder, however as the Pro1 is out there I may ignore it, The product is there, Its just a long delivery time ;)
- The amount of people who still haven't got their Pro 1, e.g. in this thread

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I also live by this rule normally, especially since most pre-order products simply don't exist yet when pre-ordering, including the Pro1 when I went and ordered one :P.

But when specs and pictures where shown, away with my rules because whoaaaa... :D I wouldn't forgive myself if I'd missed out on this one and absolute worst case it was supporting an attempt to bring a dream I share to reality. Also @chenliangchen has a good enough track record that I have no doubts about legitimacy.

The wait is real though thus far, fxtec seems to have chosen the exact time when the world goes on fire to start out xD. If there are no new brexits, pandemics or other calamities of those proportions they'll have an easier time and I think we can expect much faster delivery :).

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I weakened, and sprung for a Pro1-X (and was lucky enough to get into the super early bird batch). After watching the Linux for Everyone interview I'm glad that I did :D

And as for this......

.... I never owned a Nokia communicator, but this video made me feel really nostalgic: that is exactly how I used to type on my now-defunct Sharp Zaurus CL-760 :) Can't wait!

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It's here. Ubuntu touch for the Fxtec Pro1: https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/device/pro1/

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So, I'm having a bit of trouble getting ubuntu touch on my phone.
I won't bother you with the entire proces but what it comes down to is that when the flashing is started by the installer the phone prompts the startup screen with a very small message (that starts somewhere offscreen!) to "press any key to shutdown".
I've tried it manually, startup the bootloader and then connect it to USB.
The result is the same. The bootloader is exited and the startup screen is shown with this message.
ADB shows the device is connected.
However when I try adb reboot bootloader the same thing happens.
I've already tried a factory reset but it's still the same.
Has anybody else ever seen a similar problem?

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That's weird, I haven't had such issue. Here's what I did (from the top of my head):

- Download the Appimage installer
- Install fastboot (in the package "android-tools" on my distribution)
- chmod +x the Appimage file, execute it
- In the installer, say yes when prompted for the first time to set udev rules; if not prompted, it's in one of the menus
- Reboot my Pro1 in bootloader mode (Vol Down + Power), plug it to USB
- In the installer, select manually the device I wanted (but automatic detection worked too if I remember correctly, it just took a little bit longer before the device was detected)
- Follow instructions: there are several steps where the installer asks you to reboot in bootloader (already done) and then press a button on the installer to continue, then boot into recovery mode and confirm, something like that

It worked well for me and I did it three times. The only time it didn't was because I had fastboot installed from snap instead of regular package manager, so it was not in my $PATH and udev rules were not set.

Also, I flashed from Sailfish but I recommend you flash from an updated Android reset package instead (the last one is from August 2020, see link in my TWRP guide) because there are some partitions that are not written by the installer and that instead reuse what was written when flashing Android in the first place. It would work still, but some features would be missing depending on how old is the image your flashed into your vendor partition. Normally, it should be enough to just flash vendor.img without reflashing Android (no data loss), this is what I did and I can confirm it fixed the missing features I observed previously. However, I am still having an issue with the fingerprints that looks very similar to one I once had in Sailfish, which suggests again a partition that is not overwritten during the flash and instead reuses what Android flashing procedure wrote in the first place, so maybe there is something else I should flash. That's why, if you're not concerned about data loss, you should avoid these potential issues if you flash Ubuntu onto a recent Android factory package.

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Have you informed about these finds?

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@Kabouik, Looking at your steps it goes wrong on step 5 when I connect it to USB. I'm on windows by the way. I already flashed Sailfish on it several weeks ago and went back to Android to try out the flashing proces.

Does your bootloader menu show any versions?
Because mine doesn't. It does show the rest. Product_name (msm8998), variant (MSM UFS), serial number, secure boot (no) and device state (unlocked).

Did I mention that the LED is red when connected to USB?

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Make sure you use an USB2 port - USB3 sometimes has problems with flashing. I guess you already have drivers, since you flashed before.

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@Bundyo, THANKS!
It was the USB3 port messing with fastboot.

@Kabouik, I want to follow your recommendation in flashing from a more recent Android reset package but looking at your TWRP page it contains 16 files to flash but the .7z archive you linked contains 24.

Also running the fastboot_all.bat is weird.
First the newly added userdata.img failed to flash:
Second both system.img and vendor.img are commented out:
This is confusing.

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The correct command would be i think.

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That would also be my guess.
Also system.img and vendor.img shouldn't commented out because what would be the point?

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I created a post about this on the fxtec community forum.
See: https://community.fxtec.com/topic/24...&comment=54691