Re: osso-xterm w/ overlayed transparent keyboard
 

Having seen a lot of subtitled movies, in which this is a similar problem, I'd say that the best result is:

White character, with a black halo (slight outline around the character). To achieve that, you wont be able to just use text, you'll probably have to make bitmaps/pixmaps of each character, with a 1 or 2 pixel black outline ... but it allows the white to stand out on light backgrounds.

Just my $.02

Re: osso-xterm w/ overlayed transparent keyboard
 

Using canoe I wasn't able to copy the osso-xterm file to /usr/bin/ Is this something I can do from xterm? I didn't think it would be a good idea to try to replace the xterm files while using it. Sorry if this is a simple question.

Re: osso-xterm w/ overlayed transparent keyboard
 

Second the call for source; I'd like to tinker with this!
One obvious enhancement: it'd be great if backspace had repeat.

As it is, this is making sshing into my cygwin box to run GNU Octave much more feasible. Thanks!
A little OT, but the N800 does awesome VNCing into a 1024x768 display. By rotating it, the 768 leaves just enough room for a scrollbar. (That's how I view plots from Octave.)

Re: osso-xterm w/ overlayed transparent keyboard
 

Since I have a N810 now I don't really have the motivation to work on the transparent keyboard xterm.
Before I got it though I was working on a really transparent version (using cairo), which allowed for external creation of the way the keyboard was looking.
Unfortunately the N770 was too slow for real transparency.
Now that you threatened with the FSF :) I got the impulse I needed to at least see how fast it is on the N810.

So I installed the Chinook and tried to build the xterm. Unfortunately it's not just a matter of rebuilding with the new SDK. Since apparently the API changed, some porting will be necessary. Hopefully in a day or two I'll be done with it.

Daniel

Re: osso-xterm w/ overlayed transparent keyboard
 

Thanx! Will try this too. But, anyway, why not upload sources???
I am always afraid use softwate w/o sources... :)
Do you plan release them?

P.S. Oh, do not work on OS2008... So, sources are really needed... :)

Re: osso-xterm w/ overlayed transparent keyboard
 

First of all I want to apologize for the delay in releasing the sources. Outside of my control an almost year long interruption happened and by now probably nobody needs this anymore. Sorry.

But now I finally finished the OS2008 build. Please check: www.dnastase.info/nokia_tablet/os2008/index.htm.

I hope it's still useful to somebody.

Daniel

Re: osso-xterm w/ overlayed transparent keyboard
 

Nobody needs this anymore? Are you kidding? All of us N800 people still need it!

I'd love to see this functionality replace the regular full-screen thumb-board in fact.
Chat & Pidgin for example, email, just about anything in fact.

Re: osso-xterm w/ overlayed transparent keyboard
 

I haven't tried it yet, but I've been wanting this since I heard about it a while ago. So thanks many times over!

Re: osso-xterm w/ overlayed transparent keyboard
 

Thanks a million for this! I've diffed your changes and applied them to the modded xterm I did (which seems to be a higher version :/ but smaller in function compared to this) and the keyboard works beautifully!

My script to disable the hildon keyboard on N800 helps though :) :

http://qwerty12.maemobox.org/screenshot04.png
http://qwerty12.maemobox.org/screenshot05.png

Re: osso-xterm w/ overlayed transparent keyboard
 

Excellent! I'm glad you're using my changes, I won't have too much time to maintain this.
Two things:
- I have also sound support in my changes but it was commented out. The current executable on my website has it enabled. Not the sources though but it's just a matter of commenting in 3 function defs and a fn call. Pls tell me if you cant' figure it out.
- From your nice snapshots it looks like the transparency could be a little bit more.
I've posted on my website another tkbd.png file which is more transparent. Could you pls give it a try. (I mostly tested on white background, on black it seems a diff story)

Thanks,
Daniel

Re: osso-xterm w/ overlayed transparent keyboard
 

Nobody needs it?! I need it, that's for sure. And since Faheem's been maintaining a fork/patchset/whatever, and apparently is including this, it'll probably stay awesome into Fremantle and Mer with no further maintenance from you. I'm practically doing somersaults here! :D:D:D:D

In addition to the sshers and hackers, I also expect Addison (and any other rogue-like players) will be enthused. Thanks!

Re: osso-xterm w/ overlayed transparent keyboard
 

It looks like running this should be straightforward, but for some reason this isn't working for me.

From /home/user:
~ $ ls .osso-xterm/
tkbd.lay tkbd.png
~ $ ./osso-xterm

This will bring up a new terminal (which has the same header information as the original keyboard: Busybox v1.6.1 (2008009-18 ...)), but there is no overlayed keyboard. Am I missing something?

Re: osso-xterm w/ overlayed transparent keyboard
 

I'll recompile with sound in a minute, haven't tried out the sound function yet :)

As for your second point, tried your second image and it works very well, thanks!

http://qwerty12.maemobox.org/screenshot07.png

Re: osso-xterm w/ overlayed transparent keyboard
 

Yay, recompiled with sound support. Works beautifully, thanks :)

BTW, I don't wish to sound like a prick but using "#if 0" and "#endif" to comment out a huge chunk of code works easier for people who want to uncomment it :)

Re: osso-xterm w/ overlayed transparent keyboard
 

With all due respect :) when I do stuff I do it mostly for me (selfish...)
And for me, the line commenting is visually telling me that code is commented out.
A '#if 0' 100 lines above isn't helping me much.
Just a matter of style.

And BTW, uncommenting those lines is really easy with vim ;)

Re: osso-xterm w/ overlayed transparent keyboard
 

Strange, did you try to toggle the virt keyb from the menu ? Still doesn't show up ?
Do you have the full files in ~/.osso-xterm ? Do they have the correct permissions ?

Daniel

Re: osso-xterm w/ overlayed transparent keyboard
 

Aha; there was no virt keyb in the menu.
For some reason, it looks as if./osso-xterm wasn't running the binary in my home directory. I copied it to /usr/bin, and now it works fine.

Thanks!

Re: osso-xterm w/ overlayed transparent keyboard
 

Yeah, Benson got it right!

I'm very excited about this!

Of course it would be nice to actually have a numpad featured with this but the layout is great and won't take much in getting used to the design.

Thank you very much! :D

Re: osso-xterm w/ overlayed transparent keyboard
 

Any chance you guys could share the updated version, please???? :-)
I can't get the one posted at dnastase's site to run.

Re: osso-xterm w/ overlayed transparent keyboard
 

Sorry, I am certainly doing something stupid, but I downloaded your osso-xterm and cannot install it. I'm getting this:
And: how do people install this in ~/.osso-xterm? Is that the default?

Thanks!!!
L.

Re: osso-xterm w/ overlayed transparent keyboard
 

Looks like you need to redownload it.

Re: osso-xterm w/ overlayed transparent keyboard
 

You dl from the thread #1? It is outdated and NOT a .deb file. You go his site, http://www.dnastase.info/nokia_tablet/os2008/index.htm, and dl the .zip file and extract it and follow his instructions. There is NO .deb. file.

bun

Re: osso-xterm w/ overlayed transparent keyboard
 

Yes...

I see.

Well, I tried, but didn't work. The program works, but I saw no difference between his and the normal osso-xterm, either when executing the new file through the console, or through a (newly generated) .desktop file. The console does not show the "toggle vrt keyb" menu entry.

I sshed into the N800, and run the console by the ssh console, and got the xterm with the virtual keyboard (?), with the "toggle vrt keyb" menu. The virtual keyboard works, but when clicked it opens the normal keyboards...

So, no idea what is happening. :confused:

Thanks,
L.

Re: osso-xterm w/ overlayed transparent keyboard
 

It seems that you need qwerty12's script to hide the hildon virtual keyboard. I only have an 810 so I didn't use it, maybe an 800 owner can walk you through it.

On the other hand, why don't you use the modded osso-xterm that qwerty12 maintains ? it has the transparent keyboard plus other niceties and it's packaged as a .deb ...

Re: osso-xterm w/ overlayed transparent keyboard
 

Oh, I see.

Not sure which xterm you're referring to, but all the links in this post are broken:

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=23291

Do you know if he moved the project anywhere else? The original link to a DEB file works, but it probably has several bugs:

http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...2&d=1232477106

(the deb is osso-xterm_0.14.mh12_armel.deb)

Thanks a lot!!
L.

Re: osso-xterm w/ overlayed transparent keyboard
 

The deb is attached to it - how can that be broken? The way I disable the keyboard is dirty and crap (it affects all applications) but I'm not sure as to actually handle it within xterm as libvte handles the keyboard.

Re: osso-xterm w/ overlayed transparent keyboard
 

Sorry, perhaps I wasn't clear enough. These two links that you posted in the thread are broken:
http://qwerty12.maemobox.org/libvte4...0mh7_armel.deb
http://qwerty12.maemobox.org/osso-xt...14.mh12.tar.gz

Anyway, is the osso-xterm_0.14.mh12_armel.deb the last version?

I am not sure if I understood, but are you saying that your xterm breaks other apps? Or you have to install a new libvte that breaks them?

It makes sense that the virtual keyword is handled outside the xterm. It would be nice to somehow block the signal that the xterm sends to libvte...

Thanks for your work!
Cheers,
L.