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kmccarn 2007-12-17 12:43

Re: File Transfer PC to N800
 
Very cool - I will be trying sometime this week.

Just got my 800 - still fiddling.

loaderr 2007-12-17 13:19

Re: File Transfer PC to N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by johni58 (Post 87164)
I just picked up a new N800. I know nothing but looking at this site with the extreme amount of information - frankly - I'm scared. I have figured out a lot on my own but would like to cut right to the chase on this question -
How do I tranfer images and mp3's via WIFI from my XP Pro PC to the N800 ?
I have 2 giggs onboard and 2 giggs removable.

Thanks for the help and I enjoy being with a group that recognizes internet tablets are way cool. Hopefully I have reluctantly dropped my NoteBook into the Grey tray at the airport for the last time.
Johni

File transfer from Windows to Nokia n800 thru wifi done right and easy! just download winscp for windows xp (google it) and install openssh-server and voila!

magnoforte 2007-12-17 14:07

Re: File Transfer PC to N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by loaderr (Post 109612)
File transfer from Windows to Nokia n800 thru wifi done right and easy! just download winscp for windows xp (google it) and install openssh-server and voila!

Could you be more specific/detailed about how to do that? (specially the openssh-server installation/configuration and some step by step guide) Thanks!!

loaderr 2007-12-17 14:35

Re: File Transfer PC to N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by magnoforte (Post 109625)
Could you be more specific/detailed about how to do that? (specially the openssh-server installation/configuration and some step by step guide) Thanks!!

Ok, First download and install Winscp on your windows pc... then install openssh-server on your n800,you can do this by visiting maemo.org in the download section look for openssh-server click and install. Now in winscp set the user name to root password to rootme and set the ip to the one your n800 is using at the time. You may want to change the root password since your n800 will be accesible thru ssh. Finally using winscp browse to /media/mmc1 or /media/mmc2 and copy anything you want to ur n800`s internet and external memory flash cards :P and ur Done!

magnoforte 2007-12-17 14:53

Re: File Transfer PC to N800
 
Thank You :)...gonna try..

magnoforte 2007-12-17 15:33

Re: File Transfer PC to N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by loaderr (Post 109631)
Ok, First download and install Winscp on your windows pc... then install openssh-server on your n800,you can do this by visiting maemo.org in the download section look for openssh-server click and install. Now in winscp set the user name to root password to rootme and set the ip to the one your n800 is using at the time. You may want to change the root password since your n800 will be accesible thru ssh. Finally using winscp browse to /media/mmc1 or /media/mmc2 and copy anything you want to ur n800`s internet and external memory flash cards :P and ur Done!

I'm a dumb...pse let me know:
Now in winscp set the user name to root password to rootme and set the ip to the one your n800 is using at the time Where is it?
I am unable to see the openssh-server app after installed it...should I reach it thru x-term?
Sorry, again I stink :o

mwiktowy 2007-12-17 15:51

Re: File Transfer PC to N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by magnoforte (Post 109653)
I'm a dumb...pse let me know:
Now in winscp set the user name to root password to rootme and set the ip to the one your n800 is using at the time Where is it?
I am unable to see the openssh-server app after installed it...should I reach it thru x-term?
Sorry, again I stink :o

After you install openssh, it is best to set a password for the regular user and not use the administrator (called "root" in Linux-land) account. Then you can use winscp to log on and transfer your files back and forth. That is how I use it and it works great!

On the tablet:
- The regular user's name is simply "user"
- You need to open up an X Terminal
- You need to be logged into the root account (via putting your tablet into R&D mode or installing the becomeroot package and typing 'sudo gainroot') Becomeroot can be found here:
http://eko.one.pl/maemo/dists/bora/u....1-2_armel.deb
- change the password for the "user" account. It is done with the command 'passwd user' . You will then be prompted to enter a password twice.

On your Windows machine:
- Use this password and the username "user" in the winscp setup.

Other tips:
If you are using DHCP to assign an IP to your tablet, sometimes the tablet gets a different one assigned. Some routers allow you to assign static DHCP leases based on the MAC address of the machine. If you can do this, it saves you the hassle of figuring out your IP each time. Or you can just use static IPs.

fnordianslip 2007-12-17 15:54

Re: File Transfer PC to N800
 
the ssh server (sshd) runs as a service when it is installed, so you shouldn't need to do anything more on the n800, if you know the n800's ip address. if you don't know it, enter the command '/sbin/ifconfig' and note the address for wlan0.
now try to connect from the windows box using winscp.

magnoforte 2007-12-17 16:13

Re: File Transfer PC to N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fnordianslip (Post 109664)
the ssh server (sshd) runs as a service when it is installed, so you shouldn't need to do anything more on the n800, if you know the n800's ip address. if you don't know it, enter the command '/sbin/ifconfig' and note the address for wlan0.
now try to connect from the windows box using winscp.

No luck...I've executed the command in XTerm and shows an inet addr:
and mask:
went to Winscp entered the inet addr on host name field, user name user, password: none... no connection..
What am I doing wrong?

fnordianslip 2007-12-17 16:17

Re: File Transfer PC to N800
 
well, as above, you need to log in as 'root' with password 'rootme'. on the n800, the 'user' user has no passwd, so you can't log in as them.

fnordianslip 2007-12-17 16:23

Re: File Transfer PC to N800
 
however, i've just set up an authorised public key in the user account, so now i can log in via ssh as 'user' without needing a password, although I'm not sure how you could generate keys on windows.

magnoforte 2007-12-17 16:24

Re: File Transfer PC to N800
 
Thanks fnordianslip and mwiktowi...too much complicated for me just to get the N800 and the pc seeing each other..
I am a linux noob, and for me life is to short for linux:)

fnordianslip 2007-12-17 16:28

Re: File Transfer PC to N800
 
Don't give up. It will all be worthwile when you install Linux on your desktop and get rid of windows altogether.

magnoforte 2007-12-17 16:47

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Thanks fnordianslip for cheer me up..but I am a very busy man, don't have too much time to spend with linux.
Also I am a Windows man, I like the Windows "new hardware found...GE Refrigerator...your refrigerator is ready to cold your six pack" stuff. I want to live relaxed, computers are not my work, not my hobby. I am thinking in sell my N800, I bought it because a coworker, but I am founding it is not for me. I can't listen my favorites radio streams (Windows Media based), too much video conversion, can't use MS Office, etc etc.
I was looking for other kind of experience.
Thanks again
MF

fnordianslip 2007-12-17 16:50

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No worries. Have fun.

magnoforte 2007-12-17 16:57

Re: File Transfer PC to N800
 
Thanks. I've left my thanks to you. appreciate.

smackpotato 2007-12-17 17:22

Re: File Transfer PC to N800
 
2magnoforte the dirt simple way to transfer files is to use gmail. attach and save as a draft, or any other email, attach and mail it to yourself

Hagar 2007-12-17 17:53

Re: File Transfer PC to N800
 
I already installed the TightVNC and the x11vnc as described in this thread but there is a BIG problem still ahead of me. I have been able to connect and view the tablet on my PC (WinXP). Sweet!! But the file transfer button is grayed out :(

How to activate that. Since that was the main reason I did all this!

Background:
- N800 with Nokia's beta OS2008
- x11vnc installed from the .deb packet following the link given further up in this thread (although I didn't need any "red pill" mode as mentioned there).
- TightVNC latest version as available on their site. Using the TightVNC viewer to connect to the N800 over WiFi at home
- both the PC and the tablet are in the same home WiFi router. Connecting was no problem
- I checked through all the options of the viewer and didn't find any mention of the Filetransfer there.

Getting desperate soon....

Hagar

technut 2007-12-17 23:40

Re: File Transfer PC to N800
 
I'm using TightVNC viewer 1.3.9 with no problem transferring files. You say you don't see a File Transfer option? It is 4th from the bottom in the menu that comes up with you click the top-left icon in the title bar (not the toolbar) of the VNC window. There's also an icon in the toolbar next to the "Alt" icon.

I wonder if the file transfer window popped up under your VNC window?

YoDude 2007-12-18 00:16

Re: File Transfer PC to N800
 
The N800/810, OS2008 should see window shared folders. I have a shortcut to a shared folder on my desktop that I d & d any file I want on the N800, open the tablets file manager, then move the file to a local directory. I leave debs in the windows folder and can launch them from there from within the tablets file manager.
Could not be any easier. :)

wv9k 2007-12-18 01:08

Re: File Transfer PC to N800
 
Have I got some kind of weird n800? I just hook the USB cable from the PC to the n800 and it mounts both SD cards as a USB file system.

Works that way under both linux and wincrap

ezhill 2008-01-01 19:53

Re: File Transfer PC to N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xxM5xx (Post 87181)
You did say you wanted to xfer files ( images and MP3 ) via WiFi from your XP Pro Windows computer to the N800. There is a powerful software I have been playing around with today that allows exactly that and more. http://mike.saunby.googlepages.com/x11vncfornokia7702 will allow file transfers from a Windows computer to the N800 without any wires, via WiFi. What you do is install the TightVNC viewer for Windows on a Micro$oft computer in your LAN, and install the x11VNC application on the Nokia N800. Follow the instruction provided on the webpage link above.

Once you have the Windows computer connected it is very intuitive (at least I thought so). You can use your desktop computer keyboard and mouse to use the N800 file manager, use your desktop computer to open and close applications remotely on the N800, even operate application remotely from the desktop computers mouse and full size hardware keyboard. It is a riot to play with. I particularly enjoy this while running FREE42, meamo mapper, Sketch, Notes, and while browsing the Internet using my fullsize mechanical / non-bluetooth keyboard virtually tied to the Nokia N800.

On the Windows VNC side (TightVNC) the 9th icon from the left (up top) is what you click on to perform a wireless file transfer (in either direction) between the two machines. That icon looks like two sheets of paper. Please note if you have TightVNC in fullscreen mode you will not see this icon. To toggle Fullscreen on / off press Cntrl-Alt-Shft-F on the Windows computer keyboard. Using your Windows computer's mouse, click on the file transfer icon and the screen which opens looks like your typical FTP program screen. It is very simple to do, and it requires no USB ports, cables, etc. This method of file transfer also DOES NOT use BlueTooth. This WiFi / LAN / Internet method of file transfer can be performed over great distances (where BlueTooth has to be very nearby).

Sure there are ways to do file transfers with bluetooth but you did specifically say you wanted to use WiFi, --and-- this VNC jazz facilitates remote controlling the N800 with a real mouse and a real fullsize QWERTY keyboard and doing so over long distances.

Give this VNC thing a try. It does the wireless file transfers you asked for and a whole lot more. I was using Skype and the GizmoProject today on my Nokia N800, and I wasn't touching the N800 the entire time.... I was controlling the VOIP applications running on the N800 using my desktop's USB mouse and full keyboard with VNC. It is a no brainer. Regards, M5

<....This type thing is not restricted to a Windows XP system, this VNC stuff can be done between a Linux laptop / desktop and the Nokia N800 also. For more about Virtual Network Computing / Virtual Network Control read this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VNC. If the above doesn't sound like something you want to fool with, moving SD cards physically between the N800 external slot and Windows computers SD slot, or a SD card reader is one option. In the old days we called this "sneaker net" because you walked with a floppy disk in hand from computer to computer inserting the media manually. It is a piece of cake to use the USB cable between Windows XP and the N800 to move data files around also. Low tech, but effective. ENJOY>

This works great on my Vista computer and N800, but for some reason the file transfer button icon is disabled, so I can't do wireless file transfer.

dogsbody 2008-01-01 21:17

Re: File Transfer PC to N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ezhill (Post 118915)
This works great on my Vista computer and N800, but for some reason the file transfer button icon is disabled, so I can't do wireless file transfer.

Hi, first time poster and still learning about my new toy. I have searched for this answer but haven't found anything so please be nice :-)

I too am having the same trouble as others on this thread in that VNC file transfer doesn't seem to work. Could it be a quirk with the OS2008 version?

Browsing to a samba share works great though :-)

Thanks for a great tool.

sukyatk 2008-01-03 00:18

Re: File Transfer PC to N800
 
Good Im Glad Im Not The Only One Who Cant Figure Out How To Do This . Ive Tried Reading The How To But Quite Frankly I Dont Understand Them. I Have No Idea What A Kernal Is . I'm Used To Getting A Cd With My Computers And Popping It In And Out And All Is Done.

Aciv 2008-01-14 02:49

Re: File Transfer PC to N800
 
It's working great on my XP desktop, but the file transfer button is deactivated, as others have noted. Still, it makes for a nice interface to the N800. I like it.

Aciv 2008-01-14 04:03

Re: File Transfer PC to N800
 
A better way to transfer files is to install open-ssh on the N800 and Winscp on Windows. It gives you a dual pane file explorer for drag and drop convenience. You can read about it in this thread http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ad.php?t=14909


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