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anidel 2007-11-16 16:13

Re: Discount Codes Being Sent Now
 
What's the problem in trying as soon as the N810 hits the on-line store ?
If I'd been in the US I would have tried right away...

sfitz 2007-11-16 16:25

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Hi Alvin,

Of course I haven't received any notice that I can use it. :)
However I also entered my email to be notified when I could buy it online at regular MSRP, and I haven't gotten that notice either. I've heard patience just tends to make you wait longer than everyone else. :D

Also note as Anidel points out you can't use the maemo discount over the phone (tried that too). Over the phone they can only give you the (upto) 75$ discount so I've heard. (they offered me $50 rather quickly)

I wonder if they had a production run of units that got shipped and then they found a problem?!? That's why you could order it and they will give you a discount so that later when you have to update you feel compensated for the trouble. And they don't want the Maemo folks to get the less then perfect version?!?
(I doubt that's what happened but ... but at least that thought will give me a little piece of mind. :D )

-Shawn
(keep thinking happy days soon, happy days soon...)

Alvin 2007-11-16 16:25

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there is no problem trying right away. I'm just saying to sfitz, don't get all panicked if it doesn't work yet.

Alvin 2007-11-16 16:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sfitz (Post 95859)
... I've heard patience just tends to make you wait longer than everyone else. :D

LOL - that is true

anidel 2007-11-16 16:31

Re: Discount Codes Being Sent Now
 
Well we were told that there would be a delay of a week...
We'll have it next week at last :)

timsamoff 2007-11-16 16:40

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The original email said that they would notify us when the code and store was available to use. Since we haven't received that email yet, I'm not surprised that nothing works yet.

Have patience, people! :p

-T.

anidel 2007-11-16 16:46

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Hey Timsamoff, I've read your blog. How are you doing ?

Yup I know they will tell us, but sometimes you can stay a bit ahead :)
I'm not working right now and I feel tired to do anything other than browsing around today...

timsamoff 2007-11-17 05:14

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Getting better every day. Thanks for asking! :)

You go ahead and keep on checking, anidel. ;)

-T.

rcadden 2007-11-19 19:53

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So the official press release is out, shipping in the US. Any word on where we can use our discount codes? It's not showing available on nokiausa.com yet. Boo.

sfitz 2007-11-19 20:12

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Discounts still not working as of this morning in the US. Still getting the gift card has no balance.

On the positive side, I've been reading that some of the apps aren't ready (such as Skype). So I'm not sure I'm overly juiced about getting one today.

From all the press, product descriptions, and blogs, I'm not looking to be able to use the discount till after the Thanksgiving, it might not be till December now.

It would be nice if someone in the know would post some facts instead of a bunch of us Techies speculating about it. :)

-Shawn

anderbr 2007-11-19 20:22

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Woo-hoo! :)

"Shipping Confirmation eMail: Nokia/LetsTalk.com

Dear Customer,

Thank you for ordering from Nokia & Letstalk.com! Your order has been fulfilled and shipped. "

vabgeo 2007-11-19 20:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by anderbr (Post 97310)
Woo-hoo! :)

"Shipping Confirmation eMail: Nokia/LetsTalk.com

Dear Customer,

Thank you for ordering from Nokia & Letstalk.com! Your order has been fulfilled and shipped. "

Did you use the Discount code? If you have got the discount, it would be nice if you could mention the steps.

The ETA in the website says November 27th 2007 & The gift certificate has no balance when i used my code.

zerojay 2007-11-19 20:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vabgeo (Post 97315)
Did you use the Discount code? If you have got the discount, it would be nice if you could mention the steps.

The ETA in the website says November 27th 2007 & The gift certificate has no balance when i used my code.

I still have the same problem. Not sure what's going on.

vabgeo 2007-11-19 20:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zerojay (Post 97318)
I still have the same problem. Not sure what's going on.

From anderbr's previous post I understand he had the 500$ saved up :). The date of Nov 27th & 2 day shipping at least gives me a pretty good chance of getting my N810 before I leave the US.

aflegg 2007-11-19 21:45

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FWIW, the press release is at:

http://www.nokia.com/A4136001?newsid=1169511

No mention of the rest of the world :-/

TenSpeed 2007-11-19 21:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zerojay (Post 97318)
I still have the same problem. Not sure what's going on.

My discount code (one of the 500) also shows no balance, and the Nokia website says "Backordered: ETA Nov 27". Any chance they'll have some set aside for the "winning" developers? I can dream... ;)

anderbr 2007-11-19 22:08

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I had 'a' discount code (the $75) but not THE discount code.

$409 and change.

aflegg 2007-11-20 13:34

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Presumably everyone with a discount code has seen the maemo-developers thread:

http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail//ma...er/012897.html

Not much more information, TBH.

fpp 2007-11-26 14:59

Re: Discount Codes Being Sent Now
 
A comment by Quim Gil in the announcement for the OS2008 beta for N800 :

"N810 maemo contributor codes
Published by Quim Gil on 11/26/07 15:41:46.
btw the estimation is to have the 500 N810 maemo contributor codes available in the online Nokia shops by December 15th."

Merry Xmas ! :-)

sfitz 2007-12-03 05:32

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Update on ETA from NokiaUSA.com
Says 810 expected ETA Dec06, not saying the codes will work then but maybe more devices are in the pipeline.

One can hope.
-Shawn

anidel 2007-12-03 07:58

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Sorry I didn't have time to go thru the thread, but did you guys tried to order thru the n-series.com website ?
The first page (in the N810 product page) asks you for an e-mail "to be the first to know when it becomes available", but if you go to "How to buy" and follow the North America->US store, you'll be able to order it.
I could've go thru the whole process, but of course I don't want to order it in the US :) but it didn't say it wasn't available.
Plus it was giving a 2-day shipping (FedEx or UPS) for free.

sfitz 2007-12-04 21:53

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Discount codes still have no balance as of Noon CST (US).
ETA on backorder for Nokiausa.com still Thursday (12/6)

slha89 2007-12-06 11:07

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Any news when the discount code is working? I see more and more Nokia shops in Europe, which does have the N810 in stock :)

Thanks a lot!

Khertan 2007-12-06 11:14

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No news

The last one say 16/12 if i remember ...

dfn_doe 2007-12-13 00:40

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Any updates on this? It's gonna be a sad holiday season for me if this doesn't work out.

penguinbait 2007-12-13 00:46

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Its funny, everytime I see this thread pop up, I get all excited for about a 1/2 second thinking someone is reporting they are working

I hope we get them real soon...

rcadden 2007-12-13 02:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by penguinbait (Post 107994)
Its funny, everytime I see this thread pop up, I get all excited for about a 1/2 second thinking someone is reporting they are working

I hope we get them real soon...

Haha, ditto.

YoDude 2007-12-13 11:26

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What was the point of the discount? How does this help developers if they can't get their hands on it until weeks after its release and the first major update?
Do you think it is more of a means to stifle you guys until after a launch?

Just wondering :confused:

anidel 2007-12-13 11:40

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Well us developers can work in the Scratchbox environment or with the N800 OS2008Beta that came out already.
Nothing stop us from working this way...

Not as cool as trying an application right on the real device, but still...

fanoush 2007-12-13 12:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dfn_doe (Post 107990)
Any updates on this? It's gonna be a sad holiday season for me if this doesn't work out.

Our codes are still planned to start working this weekend (Sunday? Monday morning?)

epertinez 2007-12-13 13:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fanoush (Post 108134)
Our codes are still planned to start working this weekend (Sunday? Monday morning?)

Sadly, Spanish shop doesn't have N810 anymore.

I think what is going on here can be a good case of study for an MBA.

Do you wanna be successfull: Give 500 discount codes to your developers so they gracefully move from 770 to N800.

Do you wanna shoot your foot: Give them 500 discount codes and do not activate them for a couple of monthes after the release of the product. No official when, no offical why.

This way you have the people spending time searching why their codes don't work instead of making their projects run on the new device.

And if you can advertise Canola2 for a month to then at the last minute say you are not releasing because there is an obscure ok reason, then you kill the platform totally!!!

After that you simply say that linux is not ready for business. That always work.

Nobody is going to get angry about the stupid situation, because we all know that if we do we are not going to have a new discount code ever.

Nobody has ever been fired because buying IBM.

Nobody has ever been fired because they smashed stupidly a beautiful great linux project.

Frank Banul 2007-12-13 14:39

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When quantities are limited, why not sell to the people that want to pay full retail? The people buying N810s must be happy enough with the available 2008 software to make their purchase decision, or don't mind waiting until more 2008 software becomes available.

The developers will get their N810s. I'm waiting. Personally I want to see Nokia make the most money on this platform as possible so that they will continue to release new models and improve the software infrastructure, for selfish reasons of course. :)

Frank

Quote:

Originally Posted by epertinez (Post 108148)
Sadly, Spanish shop doesn't have N810 anymore.

I think what is going on here can be a good case of study for an MBA.

Do you wanna be successfull: Give 500 discount codes to your developers so they gracefully move from 770 to N800.

Do you wanna shoot your foot: Give them 500 discount codes and do not activate them for a couple of monthes after the release of the product. No official when, no offical why.

This way you have the people spending time searching why their codes don't work instead of making their projects run on the new device.

And if you can advertise Canola2 for a month to then at the last minute say you are not releasing because there is an obscure ok reason, then you kill the platform totally!!!

After that you simply say that linux is not ready for business. That always work.

Nobody is going to get angry about the stupid situation, because we all know that if we do we are not going to have a new discount code ever.

Nobody has ever been fired because buying IBM.

Nobody has ever been fired because they smashed stupidly a beautiful great linux project.


mobiledivide 2007-12-13 15:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by epertinez (Post 108148)
Sadly, Spanish shop doesn't have N810 anymore.

I is an obscure ok reason, then you kill the platform totally!!!
... ....
Nobody has ever been fired because buying IBM.

Nobody has ever been fired because they smashed stupidly a beautiful great linux project.

I love the internet so melodramatic. Everythings going to be fine. You will get your n810 soon, Canola will come out soon. Linux will be ok, and Nokia will remain profitable. A few days here or there is not going to make or break this product.

Nathan 2007-12-13 15:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by epertinez (Post 108148)
Do you wanna be successfull: Give 500 discount codes to your developers so they gracefully move from 770 to N800.

Do you wanna shoot your foot: Give them 500 discount codes and do not activate them for a couple of monthes after the release of the product.

If I had a Guess, my guess would be that they were trying to make all the developers get it at around the same time to eliminate any form of country "favoritism".


Quote:

No official when, no offical why.
Actually a when has been given -- I think it is the 15th (16th?) of this month when the codes are supposed to go active.


Quote:

This way you have the people spending time searching why their codes don't work instead of making their projects run on the new device.
Well, I haven't been wasting time searching why my code doesn't work. I know it will be active on the 15th.


Quote:

And if you can advertise Canola2 for a month to then at the last minute say you are not releasing because there is an obscure ok reason, then you kill the platform totally!!!
Huh? I see a post for Canola Beta being started in less than 24 hours. Where did you see them dropping it?


Quote:

Nobody is going to get angry about the stupid situation, because we all know that if we do we are not going to have a new discount code ever.
What in the world are you rambling about. This is completely illogical and no where near the facts of the situation... Patience. I'm in the same boat as any of the other NEW developers -- I don't even have any of the IT devices.

I'm also anxiously awaiting the dev code becoming active. But you going off half-baked doesn't make you sound very sane to say the least.

Nathan.

penguinbait 2007-12-13 16:34

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Well the lack and slowness of the codes is a tad frustrating, but what is more disturbing to me, is that they are pushing out these devices because people want them, but they are still not officially released, and some might argue running BETA code. It is not doing the platform any good to release a half baked device to a bunch of people because they have cash.

I truly believe they should have brought in the developers first, and made the device more consumer ready before release. This would truly help beginners and make a better overall experience for new end users, instead of turning them off.

This problem is compunded by the fact that the BEST people available to confirm/deny/solve problems are waiting for a free device to troubleshoot. This leads to people not familiar with the platform, to make statements that are misleading or just plain wrong, which makes the whole platform look bad. It just seems to make sense to me to have the developers be the beta testers, not new people to the platform?

Is this all a bad timing scenario, where marketing said PUSH it out for Christmas. The diehards know what they are buying, but the newbies need a fairly solid device to have a good experience. Diehards and developers will not make this platform last. Quality experiences for new users will, and they should be getting more a more mature device.


As they say, you only get one chance to make a first impression.

YoDude 2007-12-13 23:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by penguinbait (Post 108221)
...

This problem is compunded by the fact that the BEST people available to confirm/deny/solve problems are waiting for a free device to troubleshoot. This leads to people not familiar with the platform, to make statements that are misleading or just plain wrong, which makes the whole platform look bad. It just seems to make sense to me to have the developers be the beta testers, not new people to the platform?

...


^There ya go. :)

A well written paragraph that explains my wonderment. :cool:

Nathan 2007-12-14 02:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by penguinbait (Post 108221)
Well the lack and slowness of the codes is a tad frustrating

LOL, I know what you mean -- no device to play with for the last month. I'm really hoping to get one before Christmas, but that might be pushing it a bit close...


Quote:

but they are still not officially released ... running BETA code. It is not doing the platform any good to release a half baked device to a bunch of people because they have cash. I truly believe they should have brought in the developers first, and made the device more consumer ready before release. This would truly help beginners and make a better overall experience for new end users, instead of turning them off.

Is this all a bad timing scenario, where marketing said PUSH it out for Christmas. The diehards know what they are buying, but the newbies need a fairly solid device to have a good experience. Diehards and developers will not make this platform last. Quality experiences for new users will, and they should be getting more a more mature device.


Oh, I totally agree -- they royally botched it in this regard; I'm just saying the sky isn't falling. The sky is still their. Even if I wasn't in the Dev code group, they should have got the Dev the devices first -- the Dev's are the people who will port the apps, be able to debug things and generally allow the plateform to be a bit more stable. They did good by releasing the beta 2008 for N800 but it should have been done right away not weeks later after people figured out how to "hack" it on to the n800.



Quote:

As they say, you only get one chance to make a first impression.
Yep, and they aren't making a great one on this release.

Nathan.

Khertan 2007-12-14 05:27

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An other thing, don't forget that this discount code aren't provide only to developers but to bloggers too and other people. So i think they want to wait a bit to be sure of the stability to avoid a bad publicity.

A final os 2008 release i think.

epertinez 2007-12-14 07:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 108477)
Oh, I totally agree -- they royally botched it in this regard; I'm just saying the sky isn't falling.

I know the sky isn't falling. I'm just a little bit angry because of the total lack of info or "plan".

I think we (wanting it or not) are playing against Apple and, men it is embarassing.

There is no official place where it has been said when the codes are going to be enabled and why did it toke so long.

There is no official place where it has been said if the machinery is officialy selling or not. If it is only a preview thing. If there is an official launch party sometime in the future.

No official (no extraofficial) why of the delay Nokia got, and no official (no extraofficial) calendar about the european deployment. Is it selling in Spain? Whas it a shop mistake it appeared in the shop? It is going to be selling next week or next february?

No official expected date for Canola2. No reason given.

I wanna see my team organized. And it is not right now.

slha89 2007-12-14 08:35

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My code is working at the Nokia shop Germany ... not now :( ;)

In which timezone can we expect the mail at 15th dec (2007), that the discount/developer code does work? Since this week I look every 15minutes in my mailbox, even at work.

Thank you, keep your fingers crossed for tomorrow!


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