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jhoff80 2007-11-14 13:52

Re: How to put OS2008 on N800.... now!
 
Has anyone else had an issue where if you lock the tablet, you can't unlock it? Ie, it won't let you press the center button to unlock the screen and buttons?

I know that using this is unsupported, I just wanted to see if it was only me.

Also, count me as someone who doesn't like that the 'stylus-mode' view for the applications/web/contacts menus isn't available anymore, no matter if you use the stylus or not its always in the 'thumb-mode'. Using the stylus was nice for when I was scrolling through large lists of things, since more could be shown on the screen.

Mara 2007-11-14 13:58

Re: How to put OS2008 on N800.... now!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jhoff80 (Post 94604)
Has anyone else had an issue where if you lock the tablet, you can't unlock it? Ie, it won't let you press the center button to unlock the screen and buttons?

This did happen to me once few weeks back... I had then little bit older firmware... apparently the problem is still not fixed?

tzeta 2007-11-14 14:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jmk (Post 94583)
Didn't remove any data from my internal 4GB memorycard when i flashed n800.

I wasn't talking about flashing.

I talked about this feature:

<open control panel>
clip from UG:
Clear device data
To clear all data from the device, select 'menu' > Tools >
Clear device.... This function removes all data from the
internal non-removable memory card in your Nokia N810
Internet Tablet.


I'm not suggest you to try this one :)

jhoff80 2007-11-14 14:48

Re: How to put OS2008 on N800.... now!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mara (Post 94606)
This did happen to me once few weeks back... I had then little bit older firmware... apparently the problem is still not fixed?

Yeah, it doesn't seem to be yet.

zerojay 2007-11-14 15:46

Re: How to put OS2008 on N800.... now!
 
I had that same problem though somewhat rarely on IT2007. Haven't had it on IT2008.

namtastic 2007-11-14 16:01

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This may have been already said, but...:

For a community that *demanded* that Nokia release a "hacker edition" of IT2007 for the Nokia 770s, it's a bit ridiculous that they can't officially get a sneak preview release of the real IT2008 into all developers hands, and not just the womworld folk via early hardware.

Even with all the Leopard nonsense that went around with Mac developers not having the release build to test on, they still had pre-GM builds of the actual OS to install -- and not just target to in Xcode.

Not to mention, the N810s are officially in the distribution channel now, so if they are *really* going to release the upgrade at the same time they go on sale...well, honestly I don't see why the extra wait is necessary.

It's just another bump in Nokia getting into the computer (i.e., not mobile) business, but I suppose by the next tablet release they'll finally have figured out how to do this right. :)

zeez 2007-11-14 16:03

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Quote:

...and includes Skype video support.
Engadget seem to know more... or is just not well informed... http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/14/n...-runs-on-n800/

anidel 2007-11-14 16:07

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There is no Skype at all for OS2008 right now, how could it even think to support video :)

The fact, however, that is not yet ready (skype), may be because they wanted to add video support too. Let's hope.

traveller604 2007-11-14 16:12

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SO how is the battery life with OS 2008? Is it worse, as good as before, or perhaps even better?

Mara 2007-11-14 16:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by traveller604 (Post 94698)
SO how is the battery life with OS 2008? Is it worse, as good as before, or perhaps even better?

My experience is that it is WAY better, especially the standby time.

anidel 2007-11-14 16:15

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Well I can't say as I've been using it a lot since yesterday and today, but I needed to charge it only once :)

gammer 2007-11-14 16:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TPC (Post 94509)
Since this post is full of dupes from the other huge thread that no one will have the time to look trought to find the right info, I might as well post my info here too.

How to get a valid mac adress to put for the validation.

Pick a random number between 126409750144 and 126409842879. (those numbers are in decimal, not hexadecimal). Then google for "convert <number_you_picked> to hexadecimal" without the quotes.Take the hexadecimal result (it will say 0x<some_string> use the <some_string> part) and use it for the validation.

edit: you have to add two zeroes to the beginning of it too, see post below.

It looks like N810 mac adresses are all in this range, so if you pick a number from here it will work, but the number won't be from anyones specific device, so no one should get in trouble.

Took about 5 minutes to find this range trought some trial and error, maybe they should consider getting a more secure validation system :P

Thank you - worked for me!!

phatsua 2007-11-14 16:47

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how do I exit R&D mode ?

unique311 2007-11-14 17:01

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gizmo does video chat.
so skype needs to make something happen on the next release.

barry99705 2007-11-14 17:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by phatsua (Post 94730)
how do I exit R&D mode ?

Search for quit R&D mode. It's been said a few times on this board.

phatsua 2007-11-14 17:14

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thx guys, new OS is a blast btw :p

traveller604 2007-11-14 17:19

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Uh now I suddenly really want to install it.. nay I wait. I'm a model citizen ;)

technut 2007-11-14 17:55

Easy serial number / product ID
 
Rather than having to use Google for a decimal/hexadecimal conversion, I updated the instructions post with a simplified method:

- For step 2 in the instructions, any number between 001d6e9c0000 to 001d6e9cffff should work. Pick any random 4 digits (between 0-9 and a-f hex) as the last 4 digits. (credit to TPC)

It narrows the range found by TPC but makes picking a number a bit easier.

jmancine 2007-11-14 18:03

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Anyone else having a problem after flashing os2008 where the tablet enters a boot loop?

I reflashed back to 2007 and it works fine, but when I flash 2008 it just shows the white Nokia screen and then reboots.

hordeman 2007-11-14 18:07

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Wow --- I only caught wind of this release last night. I did not know it was a beta-leak. I'm going to stand-by until the official release is out.

It's just not worth it to me.

I'll leave it up to the rest of you guys to report how it's all working out! :)

zs_ftp 2007-11-14 18:10

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Update my N800 to OS2008.
Dont install Skype and Canola :(((

traveller604 2007-11-14 18:17

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Must resist temptation..

daverod 2007-11-14 18:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zs_ftp (Post 94780)
Update my N800 to OS2008.
Dont install Skype and Canola :(((

Don't install them together? Or don't install either at all?

zerojay 2007-11-14 19:09

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You can't install them. Neither one of them have been ported yet.

Reggie 2007-11-14 19:18

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Guys, please be careful.

A word of caution... We were told that USB transfer has a critical bug on the N810 prototype that we have. We were told to use wireless transfer (BT) and the miniSD slot to transfer files in and out. While I can see that the firmware version you all have downloaded is slightly higher that what we have on our N810, it might still have the bug.

I just hope, if it the bug is still there, that the USB connection would work well enough that you can all still re-flash your units to the latest firmware when it comes out.

For those who haven't upgraded their N800, my advice is just wait for the final firmware.

xxM5xx 2007-11-14 19:29

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The temptation is high to flash today but it would be wise to wait until the real deal comes out.

Mara 2007-11-14 19:43

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My understanding is that the bug affects only USB1.1 connection somehow... USB2.0 should be fine?

Greyghost 2007-11-14 20:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by traveller604 (Post 94789)
Must resist temptation..

Ok, I've been reading this all morning and I just cannot resist. I've got the ubuntu cd and it worked so seamlessly that if I had the cable with me here at work I'd be underway.

As it is, I'm headed home to do this thing, hoping that in the intervening hour nothing will happen to deter me. Or, better, would be an 'official' release by Nokia and we can all get on with it! Please?

BOFH 2007-11-14 20:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zeez (Post 94690)
Engadget seem to know more... or is just not well informed... http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/14/n...-runs-on-n800/

Who the hell is "Kozzi", I submitted a link to a pic of my N800 running 2008 a few minutes after I flashed.... :/ AHHHhhhh....

traveller604 2007-11-14 20:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Greyghost (Post 94862)
Ok, I've been reading this all morning and I just cannot resist. I've got the ubuntu cd and it worked so seamlessly that if I had the cable with me here at work I'd be underway.

As it is, I'm headed home to do this thing, hoping that in the intervening hour nothing will happen to deter me. Or, better, would be an 'official' release by Nokia and we can all get on with it! Please?

I couldn't resist. :(

I'm glad I didn't brick it. :)

It sure feels sweet! :D

Now I wonder where all the apps I need are, stuff like Mplayer, Evince, FBreader.. yes I know I'll use the search.

USB bug? Sounds scary :eek:

There are some things that aren't really bugs but annoy me anyways. One of them being that when you move files in filemanager you end up to the folder to which you're moving the files to.. why? It's the same with OS 2007 thou so. I make a list of things some day :)


e. One more thing I wonder, can I use my N95 as a GPS unit for the N800? :)

Milhouse 2007-11-14 20:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by traveller604 (Post 94886)
e. One more thing I wonder, can I use my N95 as a GPS unit for the N800? :)

No, as the N95 doesn't support the Bluetooth SPP profile (Serial Port Profile). Nokia obviously don't want the N95 to cannibalise sales of their GPS module... :)

ScottRD 2007-11-14 20:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by traveller604 (Post 94886)
I couldn't resist. :(

I'm glad I didn't brick it. :)

It sure feels sweet! :D

Now I wonder where all the apps I need are, stuff like Mplayer, Evince, FBreader.. yes I know I'll use the search.

USB bug? Sounds scary :eek:

There are some things that aren't really bugs but annoy me anyways. One of them being that when you move files in filemanager you end up to the folder to which you're moving the files to.. why? It's the same with OS 2007 thou so. I make a list of things some day :)


e. One more thing I wonder, can I use my N95 as a GPS unit for the N800? :)

To answer your question about where all the apps are, there aren't many that have been ported and I have found very few instances where the 2007 version will work on 2008. That's why, after using 2008 for a while I went back to 2007.

I doubt you can use your N95 as an external GPS device for your N800 but there's nothing stopping you from trying and letting everyone know. :)

ScottRD

traveller604 2007-11-14 21:04

Re: How to put OS2008 on N800.... now!
 
It seems that there is no Evince for 2008.. perhaps I'll try to port it myself. But not now.. studies and bed is all that remains for tonight.

edit. Oh yeah and it sure feels like they've put a lot of work and love to this OS so big respect for the maemo team :)

Rocketman 2007-11-14 21:18

Re: How to put OS2008 on N800.... now!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jhoff80 (Post 94604)
Also, count me as someone who doesn't like that the 'stylus-mode' view for the applications/web/contacts menus isn't available anymore, no matter if you use the stylus or not its always in the 'thumb-mode'. Using the stylus was nice for when I was scrolling through large lists of things, since more could be shown on the screen.

I too am very disappointed that OS 2008 only seems to support a "thumbs mode" for browsing through the menus. I find the thumbs mode much less efficient for quickly browsing through the application lists, as you can often only see a small subset of apps on any particular menu and have to scroll to reveal the rest. I also never had any trouble using my fingers in place of the stylus in stylus mode. For all the talk about the glitzy new OS 2008 interface (oooh, transparency....oooh, movable applets) the basic outline of the gui hasn't really changed and the few changes I have spotted are not necessarily for the better.

johsua 2007-11-14 23:23

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I am able to pair my i-blue gps receiver. I don't have good sat. reception in my ground floor cement apartment, but presumably it'll work. After 20 minutes with 2008 - I'm sold... Maybe I should check out the browser...

edit: just tried it with gmail. I can actually use the thumb board to write an email w/out it totally screwing up! This is great...

Rebski 2007-11-14 23:28

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Well it fixed the broken video chat, not much else seems to be installable, Evince, Quiver, FBReader, OMWeather, UKMP, Python to name a few.

I made a backup prior to reflash and restored immediately after. My WiFi settings, emails, Contacts, were kept though it lost my bookmarks.

It is obviously early days yet. Perhaps it was a mistake to restore my data?

xxM5xx 2007-11-15 02:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by meirm (Post 94544)
i heard that skype wont install in it.
also there are some dependencies problems with python.
The map program rocks.
gizmo works.

Anyone willing to state whether Gizmo VOIP on the N800 with this OS2008 today will allow a Bluetooth headset. I ask because Nokia stated the OS2008 was going to have this capability ( bluetooth voip ).

I understand Skype isn't ready for OS2008 yet. That may be one of the many reasons we were meant to wait until December......does this mean the N810 won't work with Skype until it is flashed by it's new owner in December? This is somewhat rhetorical, but the N810 units are filling the distribution channels now, but Skype isn't working on the N810 operating system yet?

If anyone can answer the BlueTooth/OS2008/Gizmo Project functionality question, that would be great. Thanks.

jhoff80 2007-11-15 02:49

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I already said. Bluetooth headsets will connect, and the tablet thinks its routing all audio to it, so the internal speaker will be muted. However, you won't hear any audio on your headset yet. This is both with Gizmo Project and the 'internet call' program which now supports SIP.

xxM5xx 2007-11-15 02:55

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jhoff80: Thanks for the update, I hadn't seen where you said this earlier. Regards.

Kozzi 2007-11-15 03:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BOFH (Post 94864)
Who the hell is "Kozzi", I submitted a link to a pic of my N800 running 2008 a few minutes after I flashed.... :/ AHHHhhhh....

It's me, after seeing cnet link, I though it would be nice to inform engadget about this too, sorry


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