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I can't believe you typed that.

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I don't know if it is just me but I have to put a "www" in front of internettablettalk.com in order for the wiki to accept me as logged in and then there is no CSS to the page. Is this just a me problem?

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I always hoped I'd get out before the civil war started. Not so sure anymore...

Still, being witness to the birth of the Republic of Flanders would compensate.

That's so cool! Userfriendly is on my Bloglines hotlist.

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" Republic of Flanders " ?!

I guess as a Fleming ( and Belgian ) abroad, I should check into the Belgian news more often.

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...which in turn should be coincident with the annexion of Wallony by our Napoleon IV. And there be much rejoicing...

I believe I haven't missed a cartoon since the very first one just over ten years ago :-)

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Are you so sure ? For example, maybe you have reflashed your tablet at least once to upgrade the system ? If so, would you say that providing an entry-level step-by-step on how to flash a tablet (under Windows of course) would be above your ability ? A few links to the relevant Nokia/Maemo pages ; some copy/paste of existing docs ; a couple of warnings about common pitfalls, taken from the several threads on this topic we have here.

Doesn't sound like much ? Yet time and again we get the total newbie plea, "What is flashing ? How do I do it ?"... like today. If you guys are to be consistent in your stance, then "read your tablet documentation" or "do a search" or "go buy a PocketPC" are not valid answers : there should be a page in the FAQ, and that could be more value added than it seems.

C'mon : "I'm not worthy" is just that -- an excuse :-)

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You don't like my attitude, I get it. I don't particularly care for yours either, based on the way you started this thread. You complained about a situation but offered nothing as an alternative. And when an alternative was presented that you liked, you took no action to make it happen.

My attitude comes from the frustration I have with people who don't help themselves and rely on (in fact, expect) others to do the work for them.

I've been involved in other forums about other devices before, and I know that it is always the case that only a very few people do most of the research and work. Guess I'm a bit burnt out, and I had a late night with very little sleep. So you get an apology for any attitude in the last post... but prove me wrong by doing something and not just complaining.

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The irony is that no one is going to search for this thread. ;)

Expecting newbies to know all the protocols and customs of a forum is unreasonable. I suggest patience, CONSTRUCTIVE guidance, and for some -- dropping the cranky attitude.

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I hadn't noticed that exactly, but I seem to get logged out every time a save a Wiki edit, and then have to start at the main page again. I'll have to check the resulting URL next time after a save, to see if the "www" is a factor.

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I don't think you're going to find much about it in the Belgian newsmedia, which these days closely resemble the Sovjet "media" from the seventies. Go for blogs and non-print media (In Flanders Fields and The Brussels Journal, e.g.).

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I have searched for a current, relevant faq. When there is one, it should be referred to frequently so people like me will remember that it exists. For those of you who say 'there's a faq now,' I ask : 'then why haven't you been referring to it in the helpful posts you have been making?'

Recently, there was a post from someone in Argentina looking for a stylus. I don't think it's fair to send someone off to search for stylus messages and trying alternate tricky ways to get them from the.European Nokia site or whatever -- Nokia shouldn't make it so difficult.

All faq answers should be dated. My big problem with finding info on the net is reading undated, outdated information.

Oh, and that is a reason, sometimes, for asking a question for the zillionth time online -- the answer may have changed.

For example, let's say someone has a repository problem (hemmoroids?) and bogs down editing all their repositories, following old messages and doesn't know about the convenient new site? They throw out their N810 because it's too hard to use, but at least they haven't irritated the 'search s'. All that trouble because they didn't post, because they were intimidated out of it.

And I have many times refrained from posting because of fear, so have accepted a crappy situation just to keep the 'search s' happy.

A pretty long message for typing on the N800!

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Technut,

really, I love you man. If you had done a proper search , you would have realized that early in this thread I already appologized for the way I started it. You seem to have taken it personally by applying it to yourself. Can I do anything about that? As for doing something instead of just complaining, where do I start? Where have you been with a solution until now? So we start talking about this subject and right off the bat we ( maybe just I) get an attitude from you. If you had just left your post with your notice about your WIKI FAQ initiative at that and moved on I would have been fine with you. Other than that, I do thank you for the appology you offered. We'll see. Hopefully we can get along. I love your passion. One thing I do wonder about is why folks feel so compelled to respond if they have had it with answering the question again. Need I point out that there are ( OK, Do I have to search this detail?) let's say many other members of this forum. If you are burned out, that fine. I give you credit for working hard at this. Maybe someone else can take a turn for a while. Bottom line I think is that some people, as they have mentioned here, just end up feeling intimidated by the whole thing . I don't think you want that ,do you?

Peace bro
NS

PS- and I too reserve the right to work at this as little or as much as I feel like it. Nuff said on that.

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Well, thanks for your encouragment. I have some doubt about myself, do a google search "step by step bunanson" in this forum only, came back 50. There are 50 step by step either written/used/associated with bunanson, not bad:D

Plus your leading question, "how many time I have reflashed my tablet" --> more than 10 times. I guess all I have to do is to paste all these step - by - step I wrote and cook up some refreshing instruction for 770 and N800, and browse a little bit about the tablet tutorial school, that should be good enough for a starting of FAQ. I will try take care it this weekend.

I would encourage anybody that has posted some "down to earth simple instructions" about anything, just search against your own id, then, review, cut and paste, and, add a title, if you feel comfortable, email to me at bunanson(no spam)@hotmail dot com. You have to take out the (no spam) and make a email address from there. I will "try" to cook a FAQ before 2008. I strongly strongly encourage other more suitable candidate to jump in, end of the year I travel out of town every other days, ............., you got the pictures. I maybe able to kick out something preliminary by this weekend. Again, NOTHING is GUARRANTEED!


Please try this format:

FAQ device_OS_title
content

eg
FAQ N800_2007_BT transfer
content

Anything without the above title line will be filtered to trash!
I offer to help, I voluntee to do it, but again, if it turns out overwhelming, I would just quit or transfer to somebody else. BTW, I did click on the forum FAQ when I first frequent this forum. Anybody try that:eek:?

Oh another problem, I have no idea and no intention to house a FAQ, somebody got to help me on this or pick up from here. I only offer to put it together. I still wondering what am I getting myself into **************s. Or somebody please post "bun, we do not need a FAQ, just do a WiKi or somethin.............."




bun

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Technut:

(This is not criticism).

See: http://www.internettablettalk.com/wi...itle=Main_Page

Yesterday you created and populated a new section in the wiki called:

FAQs, Problems and Solutions

immediately below it is an existing section called:

How-to's, Tips, and Tricks

which seems to serve the same purpose, but does not contain the magic word 'FAQ'.

I think that these two section should be merged, perhaps under a new heading:

FAQs: How-to's, Tips, and Tricks

If you agree, then I am prepared to have stab at merging the items in the wiki. Or you can do it yourself if you want as I won't be able to do anything until Friday.

If you do not agree, then I will leave your section alone as it is your baby.

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bun:

We already have a FAQ in the wiki (two actually - see my last post) and we don't need another. We just need to populate it with stuff - which is what Technut was doing.

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Ya, Dont.

I agree. The WIKI and the FAQ sections are all there and ready to be used. Funny, I wonder how things would go if the site opened there first. Users obviously would be much more aware of it. But yah. The key is getting people to use it. Refer to it first to look for help. Any additions to it will help I'm sure. I'll do what I can to both look for solutions there and write things down if I have the time.

NS

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I understand your point and considered exactly that when I was adding to the Wiki last night.

My final thought was that the two sections served two different purposes:

So as I said, I see the "How-to's, Tips and Tricks" being tutorials about how to accomplish a particular thing (like the How-to I added to the Wiki last night).

I think if you have something that is more of a tutorial or will be of value beyond the next 6 months (eg. reference material), it should probably be in the "How-to's". If it also happens to currently be a hot topic then there could be a link to the tutorial from the FAQ, but just for as long as it is a hot topic / current issue.

The "FAQs/Problems/Solutions" should be current frequently asked questions and bug issues/workarounds, not stuff from last year. And not necessarily well written articles... they could even be just a link to a forum thread discussing the current status. It would give information about the hot topics of the moment, but most would likely become invalid or old news within 6 months or so.

For example, I would hope that Skype will work on OS2008 by then, and that browser crashes after upgrading to OS2008 would not be a hot topic anymore.

When a topic becomes cold or a solution is no longer needed, I would thin out the FAQ so that it remained pertinent to the issues of the day, not old news.

At least that's *my* take on it. Does that make any more sense now?

Is there a middle ground that would let us combine them both in one place? Keep the tutorials as good reference material, but still make the hot topics jump out at a newbie so that he doesn't have to plow through dozens of 3-year-old tutorials to find them?

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Thank God, I just proposing............I almost wet my pants :o
I am off the hook now. BTW, I just made another step to step for Skype installation on 770 following Bundyo's hack, http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ad.php?t=12740, yup, 770 is now skyping........... he he. So my step to step record is now, yup, 51+, maybe someday when I really grow up, i will be at the rank of Fanoush or Milhouse, (now singing, buddy Holy, that'll be the day)

EDIT: I am putting into Dont's FAQ, not the other one :D My butt still dripping from those wips...........

bun

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Unless someone knows where a good guide is, I can write a faq about how to install programs in 2008. The very most common question I see is "I can't install any programs" etc. It's also one of the easiest. I don't think people are born knowing what repositories are...

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Good idea, a How-to would be great. I put a very short FAQ about dealing with missing file dependencies here:
Application X won't install because it is missing some files.
but I didn't even touch on what a repository is, or the other aspects of installing.

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Thanks technut for dong some work on the wiki. While I don't have my n800 yet, is it christmas yet, I really thought that it needed some work. I found myself doing multiple searches and reading a lot of threads in order to find answers to what I was looking for.

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Thanks fpp for your insight and encouragement.

Indeed, you are quite right! Your thoughtful comments have made me re-consider what qualifications are 'necessary' to be able to contribute to the wiki. After thinking about this and *really* reading through the current content, I realize that I may be able to make some useful additions to the collection:)

Ok. I get it....or will:D

Oh yes, Mr. Bond. Yes indeed...

[sly but definitely maniacal smile accompanies steely blue-eyed stare]

Perhaps, my good man, perhaps....