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Re: The easy way to connect N800 to I go keyboard
BoxOfSnoo, as noted above, yep, I sure did. About the only thing I haven't tried is entering the passcode with the on screen keyboard first (which I have to do on my Palm), THEN the regular keyboard. Has anybody tried that?
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No,don't bother with the on screen keyboard. I did try that by mistake....it doesn't work. Just do everything in the exact order and make sure to hit the enter key. Sometimes you have to hit it several times. Keep trying. I was frustrated too but it finally did work!
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There is a bug report on this issue at https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2640
The issue appears to be isolated to a number of text files created in a directory (/var/lib/bluetooth/<your:bt:mac:address>/). If any of the files contains blank lines above the keyboard's MAC address, pairing won't work. For me what worked was to systematically go through each file and remove the empty lines, a process which took several attempts at pairing and then checking the files. I repeated this approach after 3 re-flashes (with and without backup). as well as on my wife's brand new N800. Both devices now recognize the iGo seamlessly. The unfortunate news is that it's a frustrating and time-consuming undertaking. Additionally, you must have root access to the files, and either VI or nano for editing the files. And you may find that you've edited the same file numerous times. Search the forums for information on "becomeroot" and "VI." |
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That sounded promising, chrisblessing. But I just did that: called up each file in turn:
classes features input lastused config hidd lastseen names but there WERE no empty lines. I then retried pairing. Enter passcode, enter. Enter passcode numerous times, enter numerous times. Nada. I even tried to turn off "trusted device" - nothing. I do have a question, though. My situation is a N800 user, upgrading from a successful pairing in 2007, to OS 2008, AND restoring from backup. Is that part of the pattern? Has anybody tried just upgrading, and NOT restoring from backup, then trying to pair? P.S. Another thought occurred to me. What happens if you delete the bluetooth/MAC directory and try to rebuild it? |
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Well, I resorted to reinstalling the OS. But I tried OS2008 first. This time, I did not run my backup restore with the OS install and after rebooting, I went first to pair the keyboard (canceled the startup for restore, phone, etc). This time, the pairing works. I then restored my data and all seems well so far.
I'm glad that I got OS2008 to work because OS2007 did not work with my phone for GPRS/EDGE communications (Samsung D357). Hopefully, this solution will work for others with this upgrade/bluetooth issue. Thanks, Strick9 |
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Got my 4 row iGo keyboard today.
Pairing it to my N810 was a bit of a nuisance, there's something hit or miss there. Got it working, though. When it powers down, the onscreen keyboard comes back, which is cool. Likewise if I disconnect through the Bluetooth icon. A little sad to see there's no Fkeys. When the keyboard times out, it seems I have to Ctrl-FnBlue-FnGreen the keyboard, and then Bluetooth icon|Devices|Edit|Connect|Cancel|Close|Cancel on the N810 to reconnect and get back to what I was doing. Surely there's a better way? |
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Try: cd /var/lib/bluetooth/* grep Think * This should list the line in the names file showing the keyboards MAC address. Using all or part of the MAC address type grep <your MAC address> * This will list all of the files you need to edit. EDIT: As musikgoat points out below, you need to reboot after editing the files. Hope this helps |
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Boy, I continue to be baffled. I did find the file in which the MAC address of my keyboard was listed. To be clear, these are the steps I followed:
1. sudo gainroot 2. cd /var/lib/bluetooth/ 3. ls 4. cd [mac address] 5. Look in the config file to see what Mac the keyboard is assigned 6. Edit each of the remaining files to remove that MAC address 7. Go to control panel 8. Choose Bluetooth keyboard 9. Get the keyboard flashing (Ctrl-blue fn-green fn) 10. Choose Pair 11. Select the name of the device 12. type the passcode, hit blue fn-OK a bunch of times 13. select OK And it fails! Grrrrrr. |
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Jaslar, tried the same thing here, both "OK" and just Enter, still no luck. Bad keyboards? I dunno...
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GeneralAntilles - well, because, um, it said OK on the screen, and holding FN-Enter kind of equalled OK? Alright, then it was because I wasn't thinking clearly.
So I just hit enter this time, and this time, it TRIED to pair. That's progress. Now I'll go back and strip out the Mac address from the files, and give it another shot. I feel hope! |
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I just got mine yesterday. On a n800, OS2008.
Could not get it to pair when going to the "bluetooth keyboard" setting in control panel. I tried about a dozen times with no success.:confused: Finally, I just went to the "Bluetooth" setting under "Connectivity" in Control Panel. It paired on the first try.:) Go figure... ...Now, if I can figure out how to get my on-screen-keyboard back without rebooting, I'll be happy. Once I start using the iGo, it completely takes over the keyboard function.:eek: |
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No, that didn't work either. But I've not had time to work through all the files again before trying this. Thanks for the tip, though. It might be helpful by and by.
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For anyone having the issue where the n800 immediately drops the pairing attempt and shows failure to join, doing these steps took care of my issue ONLY after restarting the n800 hope this help |
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Thanks very much for this post.
My problem: I can't seem to get the on-screen keyboard back after disconnecting the igo. My guess is that if--and when--I restart the tablet, it'll reappear. But for the lack of complaints about my problem, I assume that others have their keyboards restored without doing this... If it helps, here's how I "disconnected": I went to Control Panel>Bluetooth> Devices>EDIT (the keyboard)>Disconnect. The green light on the igo stopped blinking. But the on-screen keyboard is not returning. Any help is, as always, greatly appreciated. |
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And also does anyone know how could I type special (Central European) characters like ιασ etc.? |
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Update: the trick aboout editing the files in /var/lib/blluetooth did it. I was more thorogh the second time. Once it was TRYING to pair, then I could type the code. Thanks, all.
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Thanks Tori for the instructions.
Worked after I followed instructions exactly. After I closed the keyboard, on screen keyboard worked again After I opened the keyboard again, the keyboard worked after 1 keypress. Wonderful. Thanks for all the help |
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@dubwise: there are Fkeys, blue-fn+a produces F1 .. bl-fn+l produces F9, bl-fn+; produces F11, bl-fn+. produces F10, also lower row has some function keys too (print-scr, scroll lock etc.) just run some kind of keyboard checker (xev, xkeycaps) and see :)
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although technically savy - I don't have much experience with this sorta thing (VI). I tried following these steps in X Terminal, and I'm able to get the MAC address, but can't seem to list any file names. Even if I do get the file names to list - I don't know how to edit them... :confused: Sorry, might seem like beginner steps but I"m stumped! Can anybody provide more complete instructions? |
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[QUOTE=dubwise;138778]Got my 4 row iGo keyboard today.
A little sad to see there's no Fkeys. QUOTE] You may have already seen this but: FYI, I was able to type Function keys from my iGo keyboard by holding down the blue function key and pressing A = F1, S = F2 and so on along the row. |
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ok... so, I solved the problem the simpler (yet longer?) way. I completley re-installed 2008 without restoring the backup, paired the keyboard - which worked. Then I restored my backup.
Now, I'm having the same problem as others out there... once I use the keyboard, the on-screen keyboard won't show up. Regretting the update... not sure what good its doing me!! :( suggestions? did anybody resolve this? |
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Woo yeah!
I was struggling until I did a search and found this, thanks! |
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Got mine today. No problems up and running in 60 seconds.
I did not have the dreaded sticker problem..thank God. Question: (apologies in advance if this has been covered in another thread) Is there a list or wiki or something that outlines commons keystroke combinations or keyboard shortcuts that work well with OS2008 apps? I'd really be interested in using some with micro b..guess what I'd like to see is not having to use touch or the stylus at all.. I see the obvious stuff and I'm sure I could stumble around and figure stuff out..but a list or table of keystrokes would be great. Thanks in advance smart people..:) |
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i've tried everything and i still can't get it to work.
this is so frustrating. |
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To get the horrible sticker off, use bestine benzeine. It works every time. How do I know this. As a graphic designer who worked way before computers, bestine was the brand to get to clean up mechnicals and marked up photographs. Benzene doesn't hurt surfaces. It may give you cancer but it wont hurt keyoards or photos or anything else that the adhesive you are talking about is stuck on. HTH
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After following this thread, I too have successfully paired my iGo Sierra with my OS2008 N800 (THANK YOU!!!). In fact, to simplify the process:
1) Install osso-xterm, nano (or vi) and becomeroot if not done already 2) Open up Xterm, type "sudo gainroot" to become root 3) Type "cd /var/lib/bluetooth/*" to access your device's BT directory 4) Just clear out all the files EXCEPT for config. To do this, open each in nano or vi and clear the lines within, then save the files. Each line should start with a MAC address. Note: *Don't delete the files!* 5) Reboot the N800 and try pairing normally - i.e. turn on Bluetooth, search for devices, hit the button on your keyboard to activate it, and pair it by holding Fn and typing the passcode, then mashing Fn+OK a few times. Now the N800 should actually wait for you to get the code right instead of saying "Pairing Failed" immediately. This removes the future problems of any other devices previously paired with the N800 - this way when I go to link to my friend's phone (that I had paired with back in OS2007) I won't run into this "Pairing Failed" problem again. <EDIT> I'd only clear out the files if this is the first BT device you're trying to pair. If you've already successfully paireed other devices, I'd follow the advice about finding your keyboard's MAC address as explained on above posts. |
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Thanks again! :) |
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MrDownTempo seems to have a solution here that seems to help with not having to re-pair the keyboard. It has to do with removing spaces in the name of the device (rename it to a single word) after you pair it successfully.
http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...37&postcount=4 |
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I used that hand cleaner alcohol stuff and rubbed...it came off, leaving the logo pristine in my keyboard.
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I have an N800 with OS2008. I have a strange thing happen. It paired perfectly fine, and when I hit a key on the keyboard, a bluetooth connection is automatically made between the iGo and the N800. If the screen of the N800 was off, it turns on when I tap on the keyboard, which means that it's getting some signal from the keyboard. However, when I type, nothing comes up on the screen. It's as if OS2008 is acknowledging that it's getting input, but then discarding the input afterward.
No combination of starting from scratch (i.e. removing keyboard MAC references from /var/log/bluetooth/<MAC>/* and rebooting) has changed this. After I couldn't fix the problem after a lot of trying the first time, I reflashed the N800 and it started working perfectly. Then I installed a lot of software and at some point after my last install, it stopped working. I don't think it's correlated with the last couple of things I installed. But it may be correlated with some other application that ran. I tried the above solutions again (not the reflashing), and also tried removing spaces from the keyboard name, and rebooting every time. I'm still stuck with the same behavior. Reflashing/reinstalling takes too long. Any clues on what else to try? |
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how do i edit the files? however somehow i dunno how. after i restarted my n800.. i can pair my igo to my n800. :confused::D |
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All this time my charger was plugged in, and I didn't unplug it. Once I did, the keyboard started to work properly again. Happy/confused me! |
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http://maemo.org/downloads/OS2007/text-editors/ If you don't know what vi is, you want to avoid vim. |
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I followed the instructions in the first post and was able to successfully pair my iGo keyboard to my N800 before I updated the OS to Diablo. When I updated to Diablo I have run into the same problem as some others where my keyboard won't pair with my N800. My N800 sees my keyboard but the pairing fails. With regards to the earlier post about renaming my keyboard so that there are no spaces in the name how do I do this? I can't seem to find a way to rename my keyboard. Thanks.
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I still haven't been able to get my iGo Stowaway keyboard paired in Diablo. Has anyone else had this problem and found a solution? This is driving me crazy! It paired effortlessly in 2008. Any help is very much appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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