Re: kde4 on os2008
 

Yes, I absoultely got this far. And I got the same syscall errors. I even got base to compile and install. But there seemed to be a bunch of fatal flaws (like dolphin wasn't able to find any files, konqueror wasn't able to browse anything, kdeinit was buggy and crashed) that made me wonder if some things weren't getting compiled correctly.

I think that the problem is that (and when I get home to my development environment I'll tell you more specifically) qmake runs to generate xml files and fails to do so sometimes (that's when your make is failing and hanging). It then skips that file and goes on even though it is needed for kde4 apps to work fine. These files aren't used for actually compiling kde4, meaning that the compile goes forward 'successfully', but there are missing files in the final install.

Re: kde4 on os2008
 

Please put Evolution mail on it!.... Please! Alas MS mail servers are rather ubiquitous so we should not ignore them just because we are in to linux. This is the only gripe I have with KDE on my tablet currently. If I could use evolution or something that did a similar job I would be on cloud nine bathed in happiness and my laptop could go to the bottom draw.

Looks like an ace project.

Re: kde4 on os2008
 

Until the scratchbox issue is resolved I do not anticipate this happening. Although ASIU compiling on his device has the best shot of it working. But compiling 50+ packages on your tablet, is going to take a while. Perhaps once QT is ported by Nokia this problem with scratchbox will get resolved??

pb

Re: kde4 on os2008
 

I think there is a good chance of it getting fixed :)

The qemu arm emulation is broken but hrw has managed to boot a proper emulated N800 (not the sbox rubbish). A lot of hope imo.

Re: kde4 on os2008
 

I have given up on compiling at the moment x_x god hates me, and so does scratchbox. Don't count on anything from my end, but I may may try to make this monstrosity work later.

What do you mean emulated n800?

Re: kde4 on os2008
 

If anyone else is attempting this, here is a list of some of the DEPs needed. This is by far not all of them, just what I have gotten through....

I believe I am also for now giving up, maybe next version


cmake
soprano
strigi
eigen
qca
taglib qimageblitz

LibVNCServer-0.9.1.tar.gz
NetworkManager-0.6.5.tar.bz2
ORBit2-2.13.3.tar.bz2
aspell-0.60.6.tar.gz
avahi-0.6.22.tar.gz
bc-1.06.tar.gz
boost_1_35_0.tar.bz2
bzip2-1.0.5.tar.gz
clucene-core-0.9.20.tar.bz2
cyrus-sasl-2.1.22.tar.gz
decibel-0.5.0.tar.gz
dhcdbd-3.0-dbus.patch
dhcdbd-3.0.tar.bz2
enchant-1.4.1.tar.gz
fam-2.7.0.tar.gz
gdbm_1.8.3.orig.tar.gz
ggz-client-libs-0.0.14.1.tar.gz
giflib-4.1.6.tar.bz2
gnome-keyring-0.4.9.tar.bz2
gnupg-1.4.9.tar.bz2
gnupg-2.0.8.tar.bz2
gpgme-1.1.4.tar.bz2
gphoto2-2.4.1.tar.bz2
graphml_lep.zip
ilmbase-1.0.1.tar.gz
iproute2-2.6.16-060323.tar.gz
jasper-1.900.1.zip
krb5-1.6.3.tar.gz
libIDL-0.8.9.tar.bz2
libart_lgpl-2.3.20.tar.bz2
libassuan-1.0.4.tar.bz2
libbonobo-2.17.92.tar.bz2
libbonoboui-2.17.94.tar.bz2
libdaemon-0.12.tar.gz
libgcrypt-1.4.0.tar.bz2
libggz-0.0.14.1.tar.gz
libgnome-2.17.92.tar.bz2
libgnomecanvas-2.14.0.tar.bz2
libgnomeui-2.17.92.tar.bz2
libgpg-error-1.6.tar.bz2
libgphoto2-2.4.1.tar.bz2
libidn-1.8.tar.gz
libksba-1.0.3.tar.bz2
libnl-1.0-pre6.tar.bz2
libpng-1.2.26.tar.gz
libpthread-stubs-0.1.tar.bz2
libungif-4.1.4.tar.bz2
libxcb-1.1.tar.bz2
libxml2-2.6.25.tar.gz
libxslt-1.1.9.tar.bz2
mesa-common-dev_7.0.3-1_all.deb
openexr-1.6.1.tar.gz
openssl-0.9.8g.tar.gz
pcre-7.4.tar.bz2
pcre-7.6.tar.bz2
pth-2.0.7.tar.gz
soprano-2.0.1.tar.bz2
tapioca-qt-0.14.1.tar.gz
telepathy-qt-0.14.1.tar.gz
wpa_supplicant-0.5.10.tar.gz
xcb-proto-1.1.tar.bz2
xine-lib-1.1.12.tar.bz2
xscreensaver-5.05.tar.gz
zlib-1.2.3.tar.gz

Re: kde4 on os2008
 

Guys! You are doing great job!
I hold breath and wait for KDE4 working on my tablet. Now I play with different ported apps and feel much more like in middle of 90-th - when I first time installed SlackWare Linux. Lots of options but nothing integral. With KDE we will have several necessary applications and intagrated environment. That is whai I'd expect from Nokia. But I hope you will make it sooner.

Re: kde4 on os2008
 

I am not sure anyone is actually working on this? I Am not..

3.5.8 is way better than 4 anyway :)

Re: kde4 on os2008
 

noooo.... I removed it, toooooo slooooowwwwww

and without dialogs formated for small screen it is completely useless

I tried Kubuntu with KDE4 and found it useful for small desktop computer. And I wanna have this on tablet.

Re: kde4 on os2008
 

I am also running KDE4 on kubuntu, I think it sux, and no matter what version, trying to run on tablet with very little memory, dont expect speed. You are just waiting for disappointment.

kde 358 is very useable, just typed this... ALL dialog boxes are accessible to me. I have never found one I could not use?

Re: kde4 on os2008
 

Honestly, I'm using kde 4.1 alpha at the moment (compiled from svn) and I'm very much liking it. And don't worry, I haven't completely given up on my efforts for the tablet =/. Just almost. Oh well.

Re: kde4 on os2008
 

Is there a way to compile without the syscall errors in scratchbox. Until this it resolved, I think only compilation on the device would be a possibility.

am I wrong here? The bonus I suppose is now that maemo will be porting qt eventually this will have to work?

Re: kde4 on os2008
 

where did you get syscall errors? in Qt4 libs execution or compilation?

Re: kde4 on os2008
 

On most KDE4 packages durring compilation

Re: kde4 on os2008
 

what kind of errors? undefined calls? different parameters number or type?

had you close look at these errors?

system calls are C (not ++) calls
may be it's not so difficult fix it
but I have no scratchbox running yet...

Re: kde4 on os2008
 

I think I said this earlier, but I'm pretty sure that the syscall errors are stemming from the qmake calls done during compilation of kde. Either that or some other binary getting called to make xml files on the fly.

Re: kde4 on os2008
 

Without seeing on those errors I cannot tell anything more...

Re: kde4 on os2008
 

The "errors" are quite cryptic.

For example, here is one 'problem':

However, in this case, the build keeps on going. In other cases qemu will use 100% cpu and seems to freeze (I've left it going for 8 hours to no avail)

What else do you want me to do to try and troubleshoot?


Oh, and for the others in the thread, I have resumed my efforts for a bit here. I'm working with kde 4.0.3 at the moment so that I can use prepackaged qt 4.3 rather than compile it myself. (I was getting errors with 4.4-rc1)

I'm through kdelibs and kdepimlibs and I'm working on kdebase now.

Re: kde4 on os2008
 

bad... in ported version of moc there are instruction codes and/or fucntion calls which qemu cannot execute :-(

does this happen while executing of moc?

Re: kde4 on os2008
 

Yes, you are right, it is broken ARM emulation.
I think Aisu has the right idea using sbrsh.

Re: kde4 on os2008
 

probably it could help but there is few of RAM on tablet...

Re: kde4 on os2008
 

Oh, yeah, sbrsh is a no go x_x There is absolutely no way I've found to actually get the damn thing running for more than thirty seconds, Scratchbox and tablet refuse to speak after that. Don't count on anything from my end...

Re: kde4 on os2008
 

:(, thanks for your efforts. I'd try but ssh doesn't work wih my router. I think sbrsh uses ssh anyway.

Re: kde4 on os2008
 

It doesn't have to go through your router, if you want. I've tried through USB networking, as well as over a wireless network. Same results...

Re: kde4 on os2008
 

I tried once also to get sbrsh working. Utter failure. The documentation was incomplete and seemed to be for an old version of maemo.

Are there any other solutions to cpu emulation? Or, can I set the -march or something to be of a 'lesser' arm cpu that qemu does have fully emulated?

Re: kde4 on os2008
 

I cannot yet beleive qemu has wrong hardware emulation...
I'd rather suppose code generation of moc or other Qt parts was wrong, may be unsupported processor code used

did you exam compiler and/or linker options in Makefile for Qt build process?

the moc compiler you use - is it the same as used in http://qt4.garage.maemo.org/ project?

Re: kde4 on os2008
 

I think task can be solved. Did anybody read this?

http://blog.haerwu.biz/2008/04/11/nokia-n800-emulation/

They use qemu too. If emulator had serious errors, then Maemo wouldn't work.

this could be improper code generation causing moc and other parts of KDE fail

Re: kde4 on os2008
 

http://bugzilla.scratchbox.org/bugzi...bug.cgi?id=315


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------- Additional Comments From jussi.hakala@movial.fi 2008-02-21 16:41 -------
This is a qemu problem.

A new version of cputransp devkit has been released with additional patches to
qemu 0.8.2, a (not so recent) cvs snapshot of qemu and an additional cvs
snapshot of qemu for arm architecture.

Try again with the first two and the third if your architecture is arm.

Alternatively, you can use sbrsh.

Re: kde4 on os2008
 

some time ago when I was cross-building qtopia2 from scratch for ARM on i386 I had these sort of problems, basically the trolltech build scripts built various utilities for ARM processor and then tried to run them on x86 processor.

the way I solved it was to build a complete i386 qt/qtopia suite from scratch, so that I had a working copy of moc, qmake etc. I then went back to the Arm build, moved the arm moc & qmake binaries aside, then copied over the i386 binaries. I changed the ownership and made the files read only, so that the build process couldn't trample over them.

it worked OK for me, although I did have to do some funky environment setting to make it all work, but that's almost certainly less of a problem with qt4 now.

Re: kde4 on os2008
 

I'm confused. Is there any way for us to test this now?

scratchbox seems like a pretty fragile build to me and I'm worried about mucking around in the qemu emulation.

Re: kde4 on os2008
 

I filed the bug a while ago, to be honest, I am not sure if the build for maemo uses the latest parts. It may be as simple as upgrading scratchbox?

Re: kde4 on os2008
 

moc is a kinda of macroprocessor, it is system independed

if the problem persists only with moc - then we can use i386 moc to convert .h to .cpp files

looks like speculatrix talking about similar way...

Re: kde4 on os2008
 

Well, I was thinking?? Duh QT gives me the same syscall errors when compiling, thats why I never could do this before. Anyway, this has to have been solved to compile QT, so what did they do?

Re: kde4 on os2008
 

It looks like scratchbox2 has released a version that actually plays nicely with sbrsh, so I'm going to play around with that. I've already got usb networking and sbrsh installed and working, quick and easy with these links:

https://garage.maemo.org/frs/downloa...7/install.html
http://maemo-sdk.garage.maemo.org/sbrsh-sshfs.html

Hopefully this will help.

Re: kde4 on os2008
 

oh, yea... :-))

Re: kde4 on os2008
 

Here's summat else, in our n800's, the arch is armv6l. Qemu in sb1 emulates a armv5l. Odd.

Re: kde4 on os2008
 

what about sb2?

Re: kde4 on os2008
 

Never tried it. I don't like sb2. Also when sb1 is installed, I can't install sb2 on my system at the same time.

Re: kde4 on os2008
 

is any advance with kde4 using sb2?

or ALL are playing with preDiablo?

Re: kde4 on os2008
 

Isn't sb2 still with chinook? I'm using it currently, but I've taken yet another break from my kde4 trials.