Re: Navit GPS (and libgarmin) for os2008
 

how do we use this script?

Re: Navit GPS (and libgarmin) for os2008
 

Ahh, it may just be a libgarmin issue that's not propogated to Navit. Have had no problems with 1.9GB Planner maps. :)

i thought the script would be handy to whoever is packaging. it searches for maps so the user doesn't need to edit xml

Re: Navit GPS (and libgarmin) for os2008
 

I was initially really excited as i thought this would open the way to off-road navigation using my garmin topographic maps. So i tested with the desktop linux version of navit first but the libgarmin claims to be unable to cope with the encrypted/locked german Topo-D maps.

I'd really love to use my hirez n810 instead of the original lowrez garmin!!!

Any chance of support for the locked maps? I do have a valid key for those and i'd really love to be able to use my n810 for geocaching ...

MoG

Re: Navit GPS (and libgarmin) for os2008
 

Garmin maps are commercial and propietary. Unlocking maps could be illegal so it's not possible from Navit. Try to contact Garmin and ask them if there's a way to do that.

Re: Navit GPS (and libgarmin) for os2008
 

All garmin maps are commercial and propietary. So what's the difference with the locked ones if i've purchased them legally?

You might also want to ask garmin if they allow you to use any of their other maps (encrypted/locked or not) in devices other then garmin units. I think we all know their answer. But this still doesn't mean that they are right and legally binding.

Re: Navit GPS (and libgarmin) for os2008
 

Maybe we can use custom maps (garmin format). in http://garminmapsearch.com/
you can find custom maps, and use in garmin devices and apps that use garmin files.

I hope this info help to you.

Br.

Re: Navit GPS (and libgarmin) for os2008
 

We found another solution for now: An older version of the german topomaps isn't encrypted and can be read by navit/libgarmin after some major help from the libgarmin author. I already have a nice looking topomap in navit this way and now i am working on a maemo port of this which'll then include my gpx/geocaching stuff.

Re: Navit GPS (and libgarmin) for os2008
 

Downloaded, installed, edited the XML file and still can't see the map.
Should i have the GPS paired with n800 to see the map?

even if i have a standalone unit and pda with maps, it would be nice to see on the N800 the map i'm making in Mapcenter2.

Re: Navit GPS (and libgarmin) for os2008
 

does author read this thread? any chance for navit advance? tried used latest release on my N810 - works but not stable, crashes

and I thing implementing maps autoloading - is not a big deal... in XML better have absolute folder name, then store maps in subfolders of this folder - then read all subfolders and show with complete path in menu

you just store maps as, for example (+ means directory)

Borocco Kingdom+ (country)
--- Main City.img (capital city)
--- Territory+ (other country part)
------ Sister's Village.img (some village)
------ Roadmap.img (other country roads)

and we have choice for each map in Navit

Borocco Kingdom/Main City
...
Borocco Kingdom/Territory/Roadmap

Re: Navit GPS (and libgarmin) for os2008
 

Thanks ajf, this is already looking cool.

What a pity it cant just use the wayfinder maps already installed... that would be handy! ;)

Re: Navit GPS (and libgarmin) for os2008
 

I'm having this issue too. Not sure how to keep the app from crashing. Would love to know how.

Also, like others have mentioned, I don't know how to get routing to work since there is no "ok" or "go" button on the form.

Overall, this looks very promising... much better and simpler to use than Maemo Mapper which I could never really get to work because of its complex interface.

Re: Navit GPS (and libgarmin) for os2008
 

ok, i think that perhaps i'm an idiot. could someone who has had some luck with this post some step-by-steps? here's what i've done:
1. install navit
2. install maps--i went to http://maps.navit-project.org/download/, selected a region, and saved it to osmxxx.bin
3. edit navit.xml file. all i changed was the path to map file, and the center location (i'm not sure if the format is correct; i used 33.50,-86.78, which looks different than the xx N yy E format in the .xml file).

when i open the program, i get a blank screen. the external gps isn't connected, and i can't seem to find an option to even attempt to connect it. what am i missing here?

Re: Navit GPS (and libgarmin) for os2008
 

:(is it only for germany?

i want it for tehran-iran

possible?? or must make a request?

Re: Navit GPS (and libgarmin) for os2008
 

No, you should be able to download maps for anywhere, assuming they are available from OpenStreetMap (see link in nola_mike's post).

Last time I tried, my map centre coordinates were off (south or north, can't remember) by ~10miles. I had to pan out then up/down to find my map. Not sure what caused this. Have you panned out to see if your data are there somewhere.

Also check in the xml file where you changed the path to ensure that you have enabled that mapset.

More docs would be useful I agree; there doesn't seem to be much on the main Navit wiki either. Probably worth diving into the code to take a look at how the GPS is used/detected, but if anyone has used it successfully please do pipe up and give us a quick run down.

Thanks, Si

Re: Navit GPS (and libgarmin) for os2008
 

Well, I think you have to connect to the GPS via the control panel in Maemo. However, when I do that, it crashes the app.

As far as the maps go, I have not had much luck using the downloaded maps (select and download). I too get a black screen to start with, but scrolling around shows that I do have maps --- unfortunately, they are all squeezed into a vertical line. :S

However, using the downloadable planet.bin file shows the maps just fine.

Though, there is no way to route because there is no "Ok" button on the form.

Re: Navit GPS (and libgarmin) for os2008
 

hmm, still can't find the map. however, when i'm clicking on the screen, the coordinates seem to jump from ~59' W to 100' W abruptly (i'm somewhere around 86' W)--that actually corresponds to my area of interest (eastern U.S.) haven't tried planet.bin yet; i don't feel like wiping my entire sd card if possible. how do you connect to the GPS via the control panel? this is an n800 connecting to external/bt gps, if that makes a difference.

Re: Navit GPS (and libgarmin) for os2008
 

ok, i tried compiling and using this on my desktop and ran into the same issues. so it doesn't seem to be os2008 specific.
1. at least on the desktop, navit doesn't look at /usr/share/navit for navit.xml. i was frustrated because the changes i was making to the file didn't seem to work. i found a search order somewhere, but running navit /path/to/navit.xml worked best.
2. i'm an idiot. on the n800, there's a gps connection dialog in settings. didn't crash the app, and the coordinates showed up, although i still didn't have a map.
3. here's the big problem i think: making your own maps just doesn't work. none of the maps i made worked on either the desktop or the n800. on the desktop, whenever my navit.xml pointed to a home made map, the program would seg fault. planet.bin worked fine on the desktop, i haven't loaded it on a sd yet for the n800.
4. coordinates are weird in navit.xml. they're in the format 3300 N 8700 W, instead of 33.00 N 87.00 W. when you click on a point on the screen, you get the above format plus a 33.00, -87.00 format, except that the numbers aren't quite identical. don't know what to make of that, except that as mentioned elsewhere, if you enter in the xx00 N yy00 W format, you may not center where you think you should.

Re: Navit GPS (and libgarmin) for os2008
 

Inside Navit? I'm guessing it tries to connect to gpsd and if it's up and running will know its position.

Yep, that is a bit of an issue.

I'll try and have a look at the code to see if there's any useful comments scattered about in there.

Re: Navit GPS (and libgarmin) for os2008
 

I've just emailed the Garage owners to see if they are still maintaining the code. It looks like they applied some Maemo-ization patches to the 0.0.3 release.

I note that the CVS is now past 0.0.4 and there was talk on the mailing list of another release.

I'll try a GTK build of the CVS code this evening and see if it works better, etc.

Re: Navit GPS (and libgarmin) for os2008
 

ah, silly us, we need to convert the .osm data into a .bin format.

See this page: http://wiki.navit-project.org/index....f_a_small_area

Re: Navit GPS (and libgarmin) for os2008
 

The files I downloaded were all .bins (i.e., already converted.)

Would be great if we could get another Maemo release to see if we can get this thing working. Would REALLY like onboard routing. :)

And thanks for checking around lardman --- not sure if this project had died out (quickly).

Re: Navit GPS (and libgarmin) for os2008
 

I'm using navit-20080313.deb from http://www.tecdencia.net/navit/ and it works fine on my n800 and n810 with a OpenStreetMap bin file.
Just modify the .xml config file, launch navit, active the GPS from the control panel, and unzoom the map to find my OSM data. GPS works and routing too with right(long-tap) click to select destination.

I've emailed the author of the package last week :
"I'm working on some customizations for
the n810 but I think I could make another package just to be updated.
Check the site next week and maybe you'll find a newer package."

Re: Navit GPS (and libgarmin) for os2008
 

Awesome news! Also, thank you for the tips, murphy. By connecting to GPS AFTER launching the app, it kept it from crashing. However, I still don't quite understand how to get routing to work. If I choose destination from the drop-down and enter my address, I don't see how to confirm it as the destination. If I go to the map and hold the stylus, I do have an option to set THAT point as the destination, but what if I wanted to use my current GPS origin and my typed in destination as the A-to-B to route from?

Thanks!

Re: Navit GPS (and libgarmin) for os2008
 

Good stuff, that's a more up to date version.

For my map of the UK using the release from Garage, all I see are bits of road/river along the borders of the map squares. Not ideal.

Re: Navit GPS (and libgarmin) for os2008
 

I take it back, that's the same version I have installed. At least some chance of some updates though :)

Re: Navit GPS (and libgarmin) for os2008
 

Well, that's all good/ not-so-good news. :) Good to hear that this project hasn't died for the maemo platform, but at the same time, I thought routing included the turn-by-turn directions with speech.

Re: Navit GPS (and libgarmin) for os2008
 

Any word on whether there will be a new release this week. I'm anxiously awaiting. :)

Re: Navit GPS (and libgarmin) for os2008
 

I`ve got problem when use garmin map with cyrillic names. Is there any solutions for this?

Re: Navit GPS (and libgarmin) for os2008
 

Hi all.

Finally I have it running with Mexico map (gamin format/INEGI).
the path in the XML file must include the file name of the map.
Run Slow, route is not possible (missing "accept/Ok" button).

I will drive today and give to you more info. also I will try with
other maps in weekend.

Br.

Re: Navit GPS (and libgarmin) for os2008
 

Hi all.

Bad news.
I test Navit driving with two maps.

With a basemap of Mexico runs Slow (Map is less than 6MB).
My map source is INEGI (Mexico gov) modified by a garmin user and its not good. (Shows my position wrong).
With a topo map of Mexico Navit crash and the IT restart (Map is 200MB). Never shows any image of the map, only frizz and crash.
Map source is bicimaps (unlocked).

So, I cant do a real test, and as I say before, there in not a button to accept the route.

Br.

Re: Navit GPS (and libgarmin) for os2008
 

Adorador, bicimapas is heavy even in Mapsource.
Did you try :http://mapcenter2.cgpsmapper.com/mapview.php?id=335

Re: Navit GPS (and libgarmin) for os2008
 

Installed on Windows manner - doubleclick on both deb packages starts installation manager, they install navit. (***.tecdencia.net/navit/downloads/navit-20080313.deb,
***.tecdencia.net/navit/downloads/libgarmin-svn-20080313.deb)

Have generated maps from http://maps.navit-project.org/download/,
but the map, what i become to see is only a randomely viewed group of street pieces, symbols and borders of not identificate states.
Even, if the GPS receiver was running and was connectable to N800, (good functionality on maps software from OS2008), i had no coordinates and no speed in the GPS staus line onn the down side.

PLS! Have enyone installed this soft with worked maps? Can you tell me a near detailed guide (i am a Windoos fool!) .

I have found maps here, but i dont know, if there were suitable for this soft:
http://mapcenter2.cgpsmapper.com/catalogue.php
http://garminmapsearch.com/.

If anyone can install this soft with working maps, were nice to give a more detailed info over this. Best regards and thanks,
Feri

Re: Navit GPS (and libgarmin) for os2008
 

Maps from - Garmin City Navigator Europa NT 2008 - were usable with Navit?
Thanks,
Feri

Re: vi
 

And copying files back and forth is simpler ?

vi works everywhere on all *nix. Even stripped down ones, even across serial lines from 15-year-old VT100's

i - go to insert mode, move around with the cursor, backspace to
delete characters
<esc> - get out of insert mode
/xx - forward find "xx" (in command mode)
dd - delete the current line
:x - exit (from command mode) and save file
:q! - exit (from command mode) and abandon the mess you made

that's all you need

Re: Navit GPS (and libgarmin) for os2008
 

I just installed Navit on Diablo. I have some Garmin maps that work on
my GPSMap76, and one I built using Mapdekode

I note that the sample map has to be turned off before the Garmin
ones will work, and that the maps have to belong to "user", even though
Navit opens them readonly. I don't quite understand this; the
sample map is OK if owned by root. Probably I'm slow today..

So now I have navit working, I'll have to find all the files for
Vancouver and try them ... but my Stave Lake one works (built by tracing over Google satellite images in XFig, converting in Perl and running Mapdekode on Windows)


Sample map and navit.xml :
http://andrew.triumf.ca/andrew/navit/

Re: Navit GPS (and libgarmin) for os2008
 

Best - this way works ... but i got at this time only the map to see - no GPS connected, but the isle is nice!

First - have you any other way, than first delete, and then copy the edited navit.xml file in the x-terminal ??? The MV shell copy command - for anyone like me - is not the easiest way to make changes in the navit.xml file, that was first copied to the extern MMC card (mmc1) and after editing copied to the final location in the /usr/share/navit/ directory.
The opening this file in the PYGTKEDITOR and then try it to save in the final location will not be allowed of OS2008. An error message was comming. Why? I was logged as root in the X-TERMINAL, but this will not have the needed effect. First the MV shell command directly in the X_TERMINAL will does this work. (To be root i used: "ssh root@localhost" comand).

Can anyone tell me, how edit and save file from one location to the other without using the shell way? Simply open and save with PYGTKEDITOR, or other editor with lovely GUI ???

Ok, at this time the map on the mmc1 card is running - only the street names are unreadable, because the fonts are too small !!!

Is there one, that had created the whole Europe maps? How? Is better to create one great map, or export it as many little img files?
It is possible to use maps from Garmin City navigator? Or? Pls. Will be back, i test it too.

Thanks,
Feri

Re: Navit GPS (and libgarmin) for os2008
 

Bad! The map created from h__p://maps.navit-project.org/download/
was not usable ... the *.bin file had produced only randomely created symbole mismatch on the display.

Re: Navit GPS (and libgarmin) for os2008
 

The map of whole Slovakia from h__p://mapcenter2.cgpsmapper.com/ was much better (to see, but not precise, the maps of mapper from OS2008 are much better ... not Croatia! ) and the speed was very bad. May be, other maps are better in details, but i cannot think, that the speed were acceptable. Ok, go next.

Re: Navit GPS (and libgarmin) for os2008
 

??? Can be the map from: h__p://www.openstreetmap.org/ converted to binary, or Garmin format, to use with the NAVIT? The map is realy actual, but i see not usable formats for me. Thx!