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muki 2008-03-21 13:54

Re: Beta7 is out with Youtube plugin is Ready! Update also all themes you use!
 
Marcelo, first PM failed, see other requesting email address

Reggie 2008-03-21 14:31

Canola2 Updates - Beta7, Themes, and YouTube Plug-in
 
Quote:

The INdT guys have been busy with Canola2. Today they announced Beta7 and the much anticipated YouTube plug-in.

The first major Canola2 plug-in, the YouTube plug-in allows you to search, bookmark and save videos from YouTube. Developers can now take a peek at the plug-in source code which can help pave the way for additional third-party Canola2 plug-ins. The plug-in still has suffers with the seek functionality which INdT hopes to help mplayer with in the future.

Three additional Canola2 themes have also been added for everyone to download -- Deep Blue, Flat Red, and Flat Black. They are available for download at the Canola2 Add-ons page.

If you are installing the YouTube plug-in, make sure to upgrade to Beta7 first via the Application Manager. New users can directly install the latest Canola2 version from the official Canola2 install page.

Provide feedback by directly replying on this article.
Read the full article.

Mika73 2008-03-21 14:40

Re: Beta7 is out with Youtube plugin is Ready! Update also all themes you use!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by handful (Post 158312)
Hi :

Search keyboard? is the default maemo one : / it's QWERTY but you mean being in alphabetical order instead of qwerty?

Glad you like it!

marcelo

Its ok :)

I just have to play with this cool application a more.

Tantris 2008-03-21 15:00

Re: Canola2 Updates - Beta7, Themes, and YouTube Plug-in
 
@handful, cLin
Is there anything contrary to a symlink from the canola youtube-temp-dir to, say, /media/mmc2/youtube-temp? I tested it on my device and it worked flawlessly

for those of you who want to try it (on risk and so on, and *remember* that you did this change, so you can revert it when canola has a folder chooser for this)

open an x-term shell: you are in your home direcory now.
cd .canola/youtube
create a new youtube-temp-directory, e.g. on /media/mmc2:
mkdir /media/mmc2/youtube-temp
now the "crucial part": this one deletes your normal canola temp-dir
rm -r videos
and now we create a symbolic link called "videos" which points to our newly created temp dir:
ln -s /media/mmc2/youtube-temp videos
(in caps this would be LN not 1N)

after this you should be able to do a
cd videos
echo 1 > 1

and if you open your filemanager and go to the folder in which the youtube temp-files should be stored (internal mem. card/youtube-temp)
you should see a very small file called "1" now.
Delete it, as we don't need it anymore and test your youtube videos...


To revert this change:
=================

open an x-term shell: you are in your home direcory now.
cd .canola/youtube
rm videos
mkdir videos

this will only delete the *link*, so your "new" youtube-temp directory is still there and can be deleted.

zeez 2008-03-21 15:56

Re: Canola2 Updates - Beta7, Themes, and YouTube Plug-in
 
Hmm so since beta6 i can't play videos in canola anymore. (I hear audio, but get just a black screen). Mplayer however works. I have the problem with all videos. Now i upgraded to beta7, installed youtube plug in: same thing i get audio no video for youtube videos as well. I completly removed canola (used the canola-cleaner thingy) an reinstalled. Still same problem :( Any suggestions ?

genome4hire 2008-03-21 16:20

Re: Canola2 Updates - Beta7, Themes, and YouTube Plug-in
 
Initial Feedback:

1. The plug-in is awesome.
2. I'm noticing some issues of video/audio being out of sync.
(for example, search for 'toxic', and select #2 'Yael Naim - Toxic'). Within 20 secs or so, it was totally out of sync (at least in full screen).

3. Any chance we can get support for High Def youtube videos? Most/all of these can be accessed, simply by adding "&fmt=18" to the end of the youtube url.

4. I see myself downloading a -lot- more video content now... but Canola still doesn't have an easy to use method of telling it to use the external MMC2. I have a nice 8GB card in the slot, which is getting very lonely. How about a GUI config option so I can tell canola where to download youtube/podcasts to?

Thanks

sachin007 2008-03-21 16:40

Re: Canola2 Updates - Beta7, Themes, and YouTube Plug-in
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zeez (Post 158370)
Hmm so since beta6 i can't play videos in canola anymore. (I hear audio, but get just a black screen). Mplayer however works. I have the problem with all videos. Now i upgraded to beta7, installed youtube plug in: same thing i get audio no video for youtube videos as well. I completly removed canola (used the canola-cleaner thingy) an reinstalled. Still same problem :( Any suggestions ?

I had a problem with mplayer playing no audio at all. I deleted the .config files via xterm and did a clean install of mplayer. try that

howardcb 2008-03-21 16:54

Re: Canola2 Updates - Beta7, Themes, and YouTube Plug-in
 
Thanks for the new themes, and the youtube plugin. I rarely watched youtube on my N800; that will change with the new release.

Now for my question/concern: The finger scrolling on my N800 doesn't work very well anymore. It worked fine on beta4, and then I had trouble on beta6 (I never downloaded beta 5). When I have a long list of files or album covers my N800 will respond to the first 1 or 2 "finger scrolls", and then it will only respond erratically. I'm running OS2008 on my N800, and I haven't added any new software recently.

Thanks,
Howard

zeez 2008-03-21 16:56

Re: Canola2 Updates - Beta7, Themes, and YouTube Plug-in
 
@sachin007
Hmm didn't help. Thanks anyway. Weird thing so: i uninstalled mplayer to force canola to use the buid in mediaplayer: same thing sound but no video...

Moonshine 2008-03-21 17:06

Re: Canola2 Updates - Beta7, Themes, and YouTube Plug-in
 
The plugin looks very promising... :D

I think my problem is with mPlayer, but FLV performance is pretty erratic on my n810. More often then not the video studders along at very regular intervals of about a second, and as others have seen looses lipsync.

I've tried going back to the 24 build of mplayer (rather then 26) and that is better, but still far from perfect. CPU use is only at like 25-35% on most of the videos, and they are low res, yet it's far from smooth for me 90% of the time. Randomly it seems to clear up at time(like after I've been in Canola a while if that would make any sense). Anyone else seeing this or should I make a fresh start ? :)

I guess I should mention I do have all desktop applets shut off and no other apps running.

sachin007 2008-03-21 17:09

Re: Canola2 Updates - Beta7, Themes, and YouTube Plug-in
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Moonshine (Post 158385)
The plugin looks very promising... :D

I think my problem is with mPlayer, but FLV performance is pretty erratic on my n810. More often then not the video studders along at very regular intervals of about a second, and as others have seen looses lipsync.

I've tried going back to the 24 build of mplayer (rather then 26) and that is better, but still far from perfect. CPU use is only at like 25-35% on most of the videos, and they are low res, yet it's far from smooth for me 90% of the time. Randomly it seems to clear up at time(like after I've been in Canola a while if that would make any sense). Anyone else seeing this or should I make a fresh start ? :)

I guess I should mention I do have all desktop applets shut off and no other apps running.

Same thing here. I think they are going to update the version of mplayer for seamless playback

zeez 2008-03-21 17:13

Re: Canola2 Updates - Beta7, Themes, and YouTube Plug-in
 
Hmm so now i purged canola & mplayer and reinstalled them and now the screen is green instead of black :(

qwerty12 2008-03-21 17:14

Re: Canola2 Updates - Beta7, Themes, and YouTube Plug-in
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zeez (Post 158388)
Hmm so now i purged canola & mplayer and reinstalled them and now the screen is green instead of black :(

Are you using the rotation patch by anychance?

zeez 2008-03-21 17:28

Re: Canola2 Updates - Beta7, Themes, and YouTube Plug-in
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qwerty12 (Post 158390)
Are you using the rotation patch by anychance?

Yep, is that a problem ? (Being in normal view ?)

qwerty12 2008-03-21 17:31

Re: Canola2 Updates - Beta7, Themes, and YouTube Plug-in
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zeez (Post 158397)
Yep, is that a problem ? (Being in normal view ?)

I had the same problem. Fanoush updated the kernel. Reflash the new one and the green screen will go.

As for me, I'm using a custom compiled kernel :P

zeez 2008-03-21 17:50

Re: Canola2 Updates - Beta7, Themes, and YouTube Plug-in
 
Yeah that worked! Thanks! Lovin the plug in now ;)

qwerty12 2008-03-21 17:54

Re: Canola2 Updates - Beta7, Themes, and YouTube Plug-in
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zeez (Post 158407)
Yeah that worked! Thanks! Lovin the plug in now ;)

Yeah, YouTube plugin is peng-a-leng :P :D

Lol, I just wish mplayer was better...

spice3d 2008-03-21 18:06

Re: Canola2 Updates - Beta7, Themes, and YouTube Plug-in
 
Positives:
-Installed using upgrade process w/o problem. Previously I had to use the manual method.
-YouTube plugin seems to work fine

Negs:
-Often, the volume spikes at the very beginning of a song. It's like the volume is initially 100%, but then changes to actual setting. Even the slider on the left exhibits this visually.
-Podcast position doesn't remember it's position if you close the app or play a different file.
-Still hoping for ability to manually set cover art and thumbnail in Albums view :-)

trustwiz 2008-03-21 18:28

Re: Canola2 Updates - Beta7, Themes, and YouTube Plug-in
 
Beautiful and amazing. I love it! I also received the OUT OF SPACE message after watching 3 YouTube videos. I removed my GizmoProject app (11mb) temporarily, but hope to put it back once this memory issue is resolved. I would love to put my OS2008 on one of my memory cards (two 8gb cards), but the articles I've read sound complicated and do not seem to be 100% perfect. If anyone knows of an easy way to put the OS2008 (N800) on a memory card, the memory problems would be resolved. I've seen the links to do this, but they seem difficult not having any Linux knowledge. Anyway, I can't wait for the next update. Keep up the good work.

chrisak 2008-03-21 18:43

Re: Canola2 Updates - Beta7, Themes, and YouTube Plug-in
 
Are others here unable to paste url/addresses into the 'add link' fields under internet media? I'm using paste menu/dialog on n800 onscreen keyboard.

slip 2008-03-21 19:21

Re: Canola2 Updates - Beta7, Themes, and YouTube Plug-in
 
So far everything works! (Update, installation of youtube plugin, searching for youtube videos, watching youtube videos)

Small UI things that would be nice:
1- On search results of youtube videos, it would be nice to see the length of the videos, in addition to that information already provided (star rating and # of views).
2- With the graphite theme, it is a little hard to see the download bar (the bar that moves across the screen as the video is being downloaded/buffered), because there isn't much contrast between the download bar and the grey background of the time bar. In other themes it may not be a problem.
3- "Local videos" could be called "Saved Videos" or "Videos Saved to Disk" instead. When I saw the term "local" videos, I thought there was a way to put in your zip code or address and find videos that we posted from around your geographic location! As a result, I expected saved videos to be listed when I clicked on the "My Videos" icon on the main screens.

All of these new Canola updates have made my N800 so much more useful!! I love downloading podcasts over wifi-- take that iPod!!

loughmillermedia 2008-03-21 19:22

Re: Canola2 Updates - Beta7, Themes, and YouTube Plug-in
 
I just installed this at lunch and it rocks!!! I wish there was a way to specify were the saved videos are placed that wouldn't require using x-term. I really appreciate you guys for all your hard work on this great ap.

mobiledivide 2008-03-21 19:37

Re: Canola2 Updates - Beta7, Themes, and YouTube Plug-in
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by trustwiz (Post 158428)
Beautiful and amazing. I love it! I also received the OUT OF SPACE message after watching 3 YouTube videos. I removed my GizmoProject app (11mb) temporarily, but hope to put it back once this memory issue is resolved. I would love to put my OS2008 on one of my memory cards (two 8gb cards), but the articles I've read sound complicated and do not seem to be 100% perfect. If anyone knows of an easy way to put the OS2008 (N800) on a memory card, the memory problems would be resolved. I've seen the links to do this, but they seem difficult not having any Linux knowledge. Anyway, I can't wait for the next update. Keep up the good work.

Follow Tantris instructions found earlier in the thread word for word, line for line. They are EXACTLY what you need to do, in fact short of GUI I don't think it can get any simpler than those instructions. I was having a problem due to wanting to download long content, with this fix it makes Ctube perfect.
Once again good job Marcelo and team, this program and its functionality alone makes the IT worth the money.

javier_h224 2008-03-21 20:06

Re: Canola2 Updates - Beta7, Themes, and YouTube Plug-in
 
i cant see the videos in youtube. i install the beta 7 and the plugin. the installation its ok. i see the icon in videos and it works. but when i select a video doesnt play. doesnt appear any error. i have n770

Capsule 2008-03-21 20:17

Re: Canola2 Updates - Beta7, Themes, and YouTube Plug-in
 
My installation went fine. I start plugin --- do a search -- and videos appear to choose from. I choose one and video seems at is is about to start playing -- but screen stays black. Below, the video appears to be caching (purple line is moving) -- but screen stays black. I think that my problem is that I disabled Mplayer as the default video player in Canola (I didn't think that mplayer showed videos that I downloaded as smoothly as the default player). Perhaps mplayer needs to be the default video player. My question is .. . what are the instructions to reenable Mplayer as the default video player in Canola? I can't find the post that tought me how to make the change. Can someone let me know how to reenable Mplayer as the default player in Canola? Thanks.

Capsule 2008-03-21 20:20

Re: Canola2 Updates - Beta7, Themes, and YouTube Plug-in
 
just found it . . .

Go to home/user/.atabake, edit config and change general = mplayer to general = oms. Works like a charm.

amigokin 2008-03-21 20:50

Re: Canola2 Updates - Beta7, Themes, and YouTube Plug-in
 
@handful: 'Pick album cover from file' in beta 8?

;-)

gtallan 2008-03-21 21:13

Re: Canola2 Updates - Beta7, Themes, and YouTube Plug-in
 
The new youtube plugin is beautifully done. It's been a lot of fun this morning searching for various videos; I never really bothered when using the regular browser/player.

Two small glitches I came across:

1) Right after starting the new canola, I initially went into the youtube bookmarks menu (don't ask me why, I knew there wouldn't be anything there). There was no back button, so it seemed impossible to get back to the previous screen (I had to quit canola). Now that I have a couple of items in the bookmarks, the back button is present and works fine.

2) I spent a bit of time doing searches, and going between videos and back to the search results. Two times I ended up trapped in the search results screen - it would scroll fine, but it wouldn't play any videos and the back button wouldn't work. Again I had to quit canola to escape.

I'm curious if anyone else experienced these problems; or if it could just be me...

Other than that, it's a really nice update.

Graham

brontide 2008-03-21 21:18

Re: Canola2 Updates - Beta7, Themes, and YouTube Plug-in
 
YouTube complaints/bugs.

Search does not shift focus to the text dialog

Animated icons for videos appear to freeze the interface for unreasonable periods of time.

Tapping on the screen to switch between window/fullscreen often causes some sort of artifacting where I tapped.

Saves all video's to the internal card causing all sorts of issues. ( mv'ing and linking the directory is a hack ).

Still another great release.

sachin007 2008-03-21 22:10

Re: Canola2 Updates - Beta7, Themes, and YouTube Plug-in
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mobiledivide (Post 158464)
Follow Tantris instructions found earlier in the thread word for word, line for line. They are EXACTLY what you need to do, in fact short of GUI I don't think it can get any simpler than those instructions. I was having a problem due to wanting to download long content, with this fix it makes Ctube perfect.
Once again good job Marcelo and team, this program and its functionality alone makes the IT worth the money.

the problem with that is the videos i save to the memory card cannot be seen on local videos!

mobiledivide 2008-03-21 22:19

Re: Canola2 Updates - Beta7, Themes, and YouTube Plug-in
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sachin007 (Post 158525)
the problem with that is the videos i save to the memory card cannot be seen on local videos!

Hmm I have all the videos I saved appearing under "local videos" in the c2.tube menu. They are NOT appearing under the "My Videos" tab. I initially had a problem with the symbolic link hack and ended up using Canola cleaning to delete all and then reinstalled and re linked the directories at which point it worked. I know that sounds like a PITA but it took me all of 5 minutes to do and seems to work great.

sully 2008-03-21 22:24

Re: Canola2 Updates - Beta7, Themes, and YouTube Plug-in
 
Unfortunately I continue to have issues installing Canola 2 Beta 7. I'm running OS 2006 on a Nokia 770. I have previously tried to install Beta 6 and had the same issue. I've run canola-cleanup a few times to see if that would help, but it has not.

Quote:

Nokia770-49:~# canola -vv
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/bin/canola", line 19, in <module>
import ecore.evas
File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/PIL/__init__.py", line 3, in <module>
# $Id: __init__.py 2134 2004-10-06 08:55:20Z fredrik $
ImportError: libXfixes.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

gtallan 2008-03-21 22:30

Re: Canola2 Updates - Beta7, Themes, and YouTube Plug-in
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by slip (Post 158452)
When I saw the term "local" videos, I thought there was a way to put in your zip code or address and find videos that we posted from around your geographic location!

That's funny, I thought exactly the same thing! Would be quite a cool feature if it could be done.

Tantris 2008-03-21 22:44

Re: Canola2 Updates - Beta7, Themes, and YouTube Plug-in
 
Strange enough, if you add the youtube-temp-directory to the (video-) media library then you can't see any downloaded videos under the normal "My videos"-Button, maybe it only recognizes .avi, .mpg and .mp4 but no .flv's

On my N810, however, everything works fine:
I changed my own youtube-temp directory with a symlink, I can download youtube videos and I can view them using the "local videos" in the youtube plugin.

amigokin 2008-03-21 22:51

Re: Canola2 Updates - Beta7, Themes, and YouTube Plug-in
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gtallan (Post 158547)
That's funny, I thought exactly the same thing! Would be quite a cool feature if it could be done.

Yes, but people will have to add the extra recorded information when they submit they videos.

Something like what some people does adding geo location in photos uploaded to flickr o google picasa wa...

But it is a great idea ;)

Scarflash 2008-03-21 23:16

Re: Canola2 Updates - Beta7, Themes, and YouTube Plug-in
 
grrr... I just installed canola via x-term and I read somewhere that a restart might be required so I went ahead and restarted my tablet. Now when every I start my tablet, I enter my lock code, I see the two hands, then my leds flash and my tablet turns off. Anybody knows what the problem is..?

handful 2008-03-22 02:03

Re: Canola2 Updates - Beta7, Themes, and YouTube Plug-in
 
@sully : as we have pointed here, the os2006 is really problematic, and maybe you will face a lot of problems if you had other applications / repositories installed that maybe installed several possible dependencies of canola in different versions.

This kind of case we cannot predict very well, so the only thing I can assure you is :

1) in a clean device (fresh installed) following the instructions on the website always install correctly (unless your network is really dumping on you)

2) we did what we could to help those users (canola-cleanup) but we part from the starting point that the chance that you knew what you were doing when installed each software.. : /


@other guys : the local videos is temporary. What we are doing is the following : there will be a "Downloads" folder, where ins ide you have podcast, videocast, youtube. Then in the configurations you will be able to choose the location for it.

@scarfish: this is actually a first time that we see this. Were you in red pill mode? did you have devel version of repositories enabled?

We need a lot more info to be able to help you.

@Tantris : yes indeed, media scanner doesnt search flv still. It;s on going as I said above

Marcelo

Moonshine 2008-03-22 04:23

Re: Canola2 Updates - Beta7, Themes, and YouTube Plug-in
 
Is Canola using similar mplayer settings to those found in /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf?

For some reason playback of flash video is very different for me inside Canola vs. outside with mplayer. The original aspect ratio is lost and I get studdering inside Canola with a saved youtube video. Outside it plays smooth and with the correct 4:3 aspect ratio in mplayer by itself.

Scarflash 2008-03-22 04:45

Re: Canola2 Updates - Beta7, Themes, and YouTube Plug-in
 
ok i've still not been able to acces my tablet, so i've reflashed it, but i wasn't able to create a backup so all my apps r gone.:mad:. so once i fllashed, i tried to install apps, but i cant. no apps can be installed.!!!!! not even skype.:mad:

Scarflash 2008-03-22 04:47

Re: Canola2 Updates - Beta7, Themes, and YouTube Plug-in
 
i dont know what to do..... :(


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