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kudos1uk 2008-07-04 17:49

Re: Connect N810 to Hotel LAN cable
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jolouis (Post 198954)
Hey Steve,
Have you managed to get the wired stuff working yet? Just curious as I thought the packages and Wiki info made it pretty easy to do, but if I missed something or there's a problem with the info/scripts then I'd love to know so that I can fix 'em up for everyone!

Jolouis,

The scripts no longer work in Diablo.

I was using your scripts with my Linksys USB USB100M no problem before but now there is no "wired" appearing in the connections.

This has been mentioned by others in other threads too.

http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...t=11723&page=6

If you can get it working again I will be forever greatful

Benson 2008-07-07 19:09

Re: Connect N810 to Hotel LAN cable
 
Yeah; the ICD has been rewritten, and the use of dummy connections was overlooked in the redesign. This prevents BT PAN and USB Ethernet connections from working with connection-aware apps at present, but there are some workarounds discussed for BT-PAN that could likely be adapted. Haven't had the chance to look at that yet...

dociii 2008-07-15 18:38

Re: Connect N810 to Hotel LAN cable
 
Here I am again!!
Unfortunately I am still not able to connect the N810 to the LAN.
I tried connecting by the Linksys USB100M network adapter, USB fem/fem connector and the USB to USB mini cable.
The tablet does not recognize a wired connection. After searching a while, a window pops up saying "Connection not possible file system not available" (translated from German language).
Can sdy help me further, I would be grateful.

Benson 2008-07-15 18:43

Re: Connect N810 to Hotel LAN cable
 
BT-PAN relies on dummy connections, which don't work. There are some workarounds discussed, you need to implement one of those against USBEthUp.sh (or whatever it's called...).

As for the messages you're seeing, they're perfectly normal.

CrowDirt 2008-07-22 16:45

Re: Connect N810 to Hotel LAN cable
 
Well folks one of the common problems with the WIKI/HowTos is that they don't distinguish between the different versions of "OS2008". We all know now that there is more than one version (Chinook/Diablo etc.). Anyone in software development knows well that once there is a new system platform out "all bets are off".

HowTos should contain standard documentation items such as Testing, Unstable, Stable, and system revisions tested on and such.

Not much wonder there are loads of confused noobies out there.. :eek: :rolleyes:

stevecrye 2008-07-22 19:30

Re: Connect N810 to Hotel LAN cable
 
CrowDirt has a good point.

We use Wiki's at work a LOT. Our convention is that the original author must keep his Wiki maintained until responsibility is passed to someone else. Obsolete Wiki's are pushed into the "historical archive".

Steve

CrowDirt 2008-07-22 23:55

Re: Connect N810 to Hotel LAN cable
 
@ Steve - thanks

The topic of this thread is Wired Communications. If you want to discuss WireLess Communications that would be best in some other thread.

There are very good reasons to be interested in Wired Communications. For example Wireless Communications, no matter what you do, is fundamentally less Secure than Wired/Fibre Communications. A good rule of thumb is Wireless = Broadcasting. Great if you are into TV Ads, but not so great if you are discussing ways to compete with your competitors. ;)

Yes wired was working fine on my N800 running Chinook, and I can confirm also that it does not under Diablo. So it is back to the development folks and more testing. It is fine to mess around with Command Line stuff, but until it works seamlessly at the GUI level there is more work to be done.

After all we don't want to look like "script kiddies in training" do we? :o

dociii 2009-02-18 12:42

Re: Connect N810 to Hotel LAN cable
 
Sorry, but reading all your contributions I am still confused about how to get wired connection to the internet with my N810.
I connected a Motorola Micro USB to mini USB B adapter and further the N800 USB 360 OTG adapter and further the Linksys Etherfast 10/100 USB network adapter and connected this to the RJ45 cable coming from my router.
After a while the tablet is announcing "Connection can not be established, file system not available."
If I want to go to the internet the tablet always tries to use the WLAN connections available around.
Can somebody help me to get wired connection established to the internet.
Do I need some software installed??
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ptaffs 2009-02-18 13:00

Re: Connect N810 to Hotel LAN cable
 
i've not read the previous replies, but the chain of adapters sounds expensive and complicated. my answer to the question in the topic title is:

buy a cheap broadband router. plug the hotel cable into the WAN side, creating your own wireless access point.

jolouis 2009-02-18 15:36

Re: Connect N810 to Hotel LAN cable
 
It's a question of portability VS costs really. The N800 solution is a little bit cleaner in that you don't need the mini-micro adaptor, just the OTG and the network adaptor; the N810 needs the extra bit, but still overall size for all three components if you're using a Linksys USB100M is tiny... I mean, all fits in your closed hand sort of tiny. You can get travel routers that are fairly small, but A) they definitely cost more and B) they're larger to carry around. You have to remember even if a travel router itself is fairly small, you still need to bring along the AC adaptor for it, which adds to your overall carrying size.

Now it goes both ways; the advantage to the travel router is that you get to use your tablet wirelessly walking around the room/etc, VS having to leave it plugged in somewhere, so that's the plus side of that one.

In any event, if you want to use the Wired USB option, you need to install the USB LAN deb file; see the Wiki Entry here:
http://www.internettablettalk.com/wi...de_and_OS_2008

This works with all versions of OS2008 including the latest Diablo.

Thanks,
-Rob

dociii 2009-10-25 22:23

Re: Connect N810 to Hotel LAN cable
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jolouis (Post 265372)
It's a question of portability VS costs really. The N800 solution is a little bit cleaner in that you don't need the mini-micro adaptor, just the OTG and the network adaptor; the N810 needs the extra bit, but still overall size for all three components if you're using a Linksys USB100M is tiny... I mean, all fits in your closed hand sort of tiny. You can get travel routers that are fairly small, but A) they definitely cost more and B) they're larger to carry around. You have to remember even if a travel router itself is fairly small, you still need to bring along the AC adaptor for it, which adds to your overall carrying size.

Now it goes both ways; the advantage to the travel router is that you get to use your tablet wirelessly walking around the room/etc, VS having to leave it plugged in somewhere, so that's the plus side of that one.

In any event, if you want to use the Wired USB option, you need to install the USB LAN deb file; see the Wiki Entry here:
http://www.internettablettalk.com/wi...de_and_OS_2008

This works with all versions of OS2008 including the latest Diablo.

Thanks,
-Rob

Finally I could successfully connect the N810 "wired" to the Internet.
Thanks to all of you who helped me especially jolouis with the useful link.
I connected a "Motorola Micro USB to mini USB B adapter" to the "N800 USB 360 OTG adapter" then by USB cable to the inlet of a "powered USB Hub" and plug into one of the hub ports the "Linksys Etherfast 10/100 USB network adapter" and and the other end to the RJ45 cable coming from my router.
The clou was to have a powered USB hub in between to supply the Ethernet 10/100, which needs more power than an N810 can supply.

Regards

daperezg 2009-12-11 22:54

Re: Connect N810 to Hotel LAN cable
 
are the following cheap chipsets supported?

Fast-Ethernet Phy (MosChip MCS7830)
DAVICOM Semiconductor, DM9601 USB To Fast Ethernet Adapter
ADM8515


any list of usb to ethernet supported chipsets?
i read about realtek is well supported, which more?

TA-t3 2009-12-12 16:22

Re: Connect N810 to Hotel LAN cable
 
The Linksys USB100M apparently works, I think there's a 200M that should work too. I'm also almost certain that the Apple USB Ethernet dongle should work also (_possibly_ needing someone to compile the driver and make a module), it works perfectly not only on x86 but also on Beagleboard (ARM CPU). I've got one so I may try it one day on my N800. The nice thing about the Apple USB Ethernet dongle is that it's so easy to get hold of, they tend to have them in stock in any Apple shop because apparently there's a Macbook out there which doesn't have built-in Ethernet.


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