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fizze 2008-06-29 16:01

Re: Wayfinder maps updated!!!
 
I've recently flashed Diablo, and it's running smooth.
Today I wanted to update the Wayfinder maps, but much to my dismay all maps I tried to download were corrupt.
I've tried Eastern-Central-Europe and Germany-Alps so far. I've tried to download both twice, no luck.

Any clues?

cryptoboy 2008-06-30 15:35

Re: Wayfinder maps updated!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cryptoboy (Post 196662)
So...I maually deleted all map data again, re-flashed diablo (probably not necessary), and started a new download. I won't know for another 4 hours if this worked or not?

Just an update: USA-West 2008 download was a success! Took a trip this weekend and did notice that many of the incorrect navigation points were fixed (traveling from Phoenix to Payson, AZ).

Jejoma 2008-07-01 09:15

Re: Wayfinder maps updated!!!
 
Whilst I have downloaded the new European and Canada maps without any problems I cannot get Eastern USA. The first three times I tried I got 'download failure'. So I cleared all the other maps off my disc (16Gb) but still cannot get the map. My last attempt (7th) was running for 22 hours and got stuck at about 50% which is where it has stopped each time.

Any suggestions?

anidel 2008-07-01 09:45

Re: Wayfinder maps updated!!!
 
Even if the size was the same they might have improved the coverage.
Sometimes roads disappear and new ones appear.
Italy's map went up only for 2Mbs, but of course the remaining 231Mb of data has been updated as well!
:)

siralien 2008-07-01 11:34

Re: Wayfinder maps updated!!!
 
I cannot see anything more than the 2006 maps. I have upgraded to Diablo. Must I subscribe to Wayfinder too in order to access the new upgraded maps?

mjc 2008-07-01 11:50

Re: Wayfinder maps updated!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by siralien (Post 198054)
I cannot see anything more than the 2006 maps. I have upgraded to Diablo. Must I subscribe to Wayfinder too in order to access the new upgraded maps?

Click "refresh" on the Available maps screen. This did the trick for me.

Now if only the USA East maps would complete the download, and Wayfinder would lower their subscription fees to something reasonable.

sjgadsby 2008-07-01 13:27

Re: Wayfinder maps updated!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jejoma (Post 198032)
...I cannot get Eastern USA. Any suggestions?

Have you tried downloading during an off peak time? My evening (Eastern time) download attempts were slow and eventually failed, but a download attempt at around 6 a.m. completed successfully and fairly quickly.

YoDude 2008-07-01 22:41

Re: Wayfinder maps updated!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jejoma (Post 198032)
Whilst I have downloaded the new European and Canada maps without any problems I cannot get Eastern USA. The first three times I tried I got 'download failure'. So I cleared all the other maps off my disc (16Gb) but still cannot get the map. My last attempt (7th) was running for 22 hours and got stuck at about 50% which is where it has stopped each time.

Any suggestions?

My internet service provider is Comcast... Apparently Comcast has a habit of throttling downloads it thinks are somehow illegal. This could have been the case with me and my attempts to download USA East. I had 3 overnight attempts without success.

Then I decided to try opening the Comcast homepage on my tablet first then opened Wayfinder to download the map... I was successful after only 2.5 hours this time... go figure.

Maybe the same thing is happening to you with your ISP?

Trim 2008-07-01 22:57

Re: Wayfinder maps updated!!!
 
The maps found here:

http://www.navicoretech.com/Consumer...B/wfnavigator/

have been updated to 2008.1

Should make life easier.

munky261 2008-07-02 07:22

Re: Wayfinder maps updated!!!
 
will these work with the older version of the Map application?...i have diablo but i downgraded mine so that i could use the macchanger crack for wayfinder.

gnuite 2008-07-02 09:17

Re: Wayfinder maps updated!!!
 
I've never, ever been able to download the larger map sets with the Map application. It always fails in the middle of the download. I can download Singapore, but USA East or West is apparently impossible, regardless of time-of-day, regardless of how much space I have left on my memory card.

If I didn't have an N810, I would not have USA maps at all. I guess I'll just have to stick with ancient map data. So frustrating!

anidel 2008-07-02 09:29

Re: Wayfinder maps updated!!!
 
Did you try to download them from your desktop using the provided links (in this thread) ?

munky261 2008-07-02 09:54

Re: Wayfinder maps updated!!!
 
just got done loading the new maps...and they WILL work with the old version of the map software and the navicore crack running!!

sirfelix 2008-07-02 11:32

Re: Wayfinder maps updated!!!
 
I tend to be homebound and have not been able to check to see if the newest map app has fixed the travel speed bug as promised by Wayfinder. It used to only show KM/H no matter what the settings were. Can anyone confirm they can get MPH on the main map screen while moving?
Thanks

sirfelix 2008-07-02 11:34

Re: Wayfinder maps updated!!!
 
Other then the (supposedly) faster gps fix and newer maps, are there any other updates/fixedbugs/newfeatures in the latest map app?

cryptoboy 2008-07-02 15:39

Re: Wayfinder maps updated!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sirfelix (Post 198472)
I tend to be homebound and have not been able to check to see if the newest map app has fixed the travel speed bug as promised by Wayfinder. It used to only show KM/H no matter what the settings were. Can anyone confirm they can get MPH on the main map screen while moving?
Thanks

I have always (and still do) see MPH while moving. Strange that you only see KM/H as mine reported MPH in both the old Wayfinder App and the new one.

mrlanrat 2008-07-02 16:14

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Quote:

just got done loading the new maps...and they WILL work with the old version of the map software and the navicore crack running!!
Yes they will ;)

dchao 2008-07-02 21:17

Re: Wayfinder maps updated!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gnuite (Post 198452)
I've never, ever been able to download the larger map sets with the Map application. It always fails in the middle of the download. I can download Singapore, but USA East or West is apparently impossible, regardless of time-of-day, regardless of how much space I have left on my memory card.

If I didn't have an N810, I would not have USA maps at all. I guess I'll just have to stick with ancient map data. So frustrating!

Once the map download failed, you are doomed. I had to delete the map folder *and* reflash the N810 before I could download the USA West map. (I haven't added the USA East yet.) USA West took 2-3 hours.

tso 2008-07-02 21:27

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sounds like there are a whole lot of people downloading those usa maps.

but still, having to reflash just to get download going again? im guessing thats more a case of the app not telling the user that its having a temporary problem connecting, and the user going fully overkill because of that lack of info...

more likely then not the reflash to just enough time for the number of connections on the download server to drop...

dchao 2008-07-02 21:41

Re: Wayfinder maps updated!!!
 
I tried 4 times without success. The last three with a clean map folder. Everytime, all 700MB had successfully downloaded and it failed on the installing map step. The N810 was left with an unknown map in the list.

Initially, I did not want to believe cryptoboy. But after four failed downloads, I had no option but to try reflashing again.

It could be just luck, but then finally it worked after reflash.

cryptoboy 2008-07-02 22:49

Re: Wayfinder maps updated!!!
 
That is what worked for me....after a failed map install it left a bunch of garbage files around. I could have deleted them manually, but at the time doing a re-install seemed to be the safest route. After that SUCCESS! :)

Note: Now that you can download to the PC (Wayfinder website is updated) I am going that method for getting the USA-East 2008 map. Much easier!!!

allnameswereout 2008-07-03 04:37

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Although it probably doesn't matter anymore due to the 2008Q1 maps here is some older software & maps from 2007... http://www.navicoretech.com/Consumer.../en_GB/tablet/ its strange, but previously the maps on my Chinook were outdated, from 2006

sirfelix 2008-07-03 11:41

Re: Wayfinder maps updated!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cryptoboy (Post 198553)
I have always (and still do) see MPH while moving. Strange that you only see KM/H as mine reported MPH in both the old Wayfinder App and the new one.

The bug seems to only affect people who have not used the navagation part of the app, for example, right out of the box without buying a navigation license.
This bug has been around a long time. The bug has been acknowledged by Wayfinder and should have been fixed in the new OS. See thread "Wayfinder displays speed in km/h"

http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...mperial&page=2

anyone?

james.bottomtooth 2008-07-03 18:22

Re: Wayfinder maps updated!!!
 
km/h vs miles is fixed when you download voices. worked for me.

james.bottomtooth 2008-07-03 19:24

Re: Wayfinder maps updated!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by YoDude (Post 195863)
The only "substantial" upgrade that I have seen since I bought the navigation kit when it was first released over a year ago has been the name change from Navicore and now the addition of a green heart to the logo.

green heart means they like you.

i am an early adopter as well, paid $200, dont remember if i paid shipping.. but i didn't like it much from the beginning, i think you liked it more than me.

munky261 2008-07-04 02:57

Re: Wayfinder maps updated!!!
 
ive got the previous version of the map app installed running the updated maps...maps and nav work fine but it isnt letting me download voices...can someone tell me how to fix this or send me the file for carinna du plessis (english accented woman) ????

Alexl 2008-07-04 08:06

Re: Wayfinder maps updated!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cryptoboy (Post 198751)
That is what worked for me....after a failed map install it left a bunch of garbage files around. I could have deleted them manually, but at the time doing a re-install seemed to be the safest route. After that SUCCESS! :)

Note: Now that you can download to the PC (Wayfinder website is updated) I am going that method for getting the USA-East 2008 map. Much easier!!!

Hi,

I am a newbie.
Please let me know how to load the map downloaded using PC onto my N810. Do I just unzip, untar everything into the map directory?

Thanks,
Alex

prk60091 2008-07-04 12:33

Re: Wayfinder maps updated!!!
 
i think all the failed downloads has messed ujp my internal card on my 810. i cannot put both usa and usa west on the card. is it possible to do? i really dont want to re download my maps
can someone list the file structure?
thanks

james.bottomtooth 2008-07-04 16:57

Re: Wayfinder maps updated!!!
 
once you download it on the PC, unzip it and move the whole folder mapdata_XXXX into '\map' directory on your memory card.

it works for either internal or external on N800 (not sure if you can move it from the internal on N810 to the external, search here for answers)

the last map you used in the application is stored under "mapdata" folder if its the older one you can delete it or rename the directory.

basically you can have all the different maps in directories like
"mapdata_Singapore"
"mapdata_XYZ"
but once you select it in Map application, it will re-name that directory to just "mapdata"

Zuber 2008-07-04 20:01

Re: Wayfinder maps updated!!!
 
The A-GPS seams to have worked for me.

I've been traveling to various points between London and Manchester over the last few days and have consistently always got a lock within a maximum of say 1 minute or so (sometimes much quicker). Even when doing 70MPH on the motorway before switching Wayfinder on. Prior to this, it typically took several minutes and sometimes took 5 to 10+ minutes when moving at speed on occasions.

To answer someones earlier question about how often it connects to "refresh" when location has not changed. during the 5 days or so of using it (at least on 3 or 4 days, probably started Wayfinder at least a dozen+ times including playing around) after the initial update it only tried connecting for an update the once. so it is not "every time" that's for sure. and you can "usually" still expect a fast connection even if the mobile is not available.

That's my experience of it anyway.

Now could someone give an idea of the amount of data it needs to fetch as well ?
I too am curious as to what the cost of using it abroad would be...

Zuber

munky261 2008-07-05 17:41

Re: Wayfinder maps updated!!!
 
*bump* i am still unable to download voices can anyone help me with this?

rdcinhou 2008-07-09 02:20

Re: Wayfinder maps updated!!!
 
After reading through these threads on Wayfinder (2008 under Diablo), I can declare that I am not impressed!

For all the trouble it's been trying-and-trying-and-trying to download either US map to review for completeness, my time is much too valuable to keep this up--especially at the price that they want for the license.

I bought a TomTom ONE for my wife and it is 100x better than Wayfinder in terms of functionality, ease of use, etc.

I don't think that Wayfinder is worth it even at 1/10th of the price of their license!

UPDATE: I finally got the US West map to download--it took overnight. I had to change the CONNECTION settings to be ALWAYS ON instead of time out after 10 minutes.

QUALITY EVALUTION: I did three lookups on areas that I'm familiar with and found NUMEROUS ERRORS (bad street spelling, wrong street intersections, showing streets as through-streets when in fact they are dead-ends, etc) in THREE TEXAS CITIES (Houston, San Antonio and College Station). The map data that comes with this application is not worth the money.

Their documentation says that they rely on their customers to help them correct the maps. They should change their business model to give substantial discounts to customers based on how many errors they report instead of making them pay great sums of money for poor quality maps.

mjc 2008-07-09 11:46

Re: Wayfinder maps updated!!!
 
After downloading the USA East and USA West maps, Nokia Map could nolonger route from the New England area to Florida. It would make several attemps but decide it was unable to find a route. Also, I am very disappointed in the inability to route between maps.

I had the opportunity to test Nokia Map on a 400 mile trip, and I was very pleased by the interface. I was very impressed by the display of information, the timing of voice prompts, and the speed of recalculating routes. However, the licencing is too expensive when compared to other available products.

I really want commercial grade navigation on my N800, but until the price comes down I will stick with Garmin Mobile XT on my N95-3.

sirfelix 2008-07-09 13:23

Re: Wayfinder maps updated!!!
 
I agree, from what I can gather here I won't be buying a license for the map app. Yesterday, Amazon was selling a far superior gps for $88 shipped free. Even though it would be nice if the N810 could be that all-in-one device for traveling, its still not there yet and the Wayfinder GPS is the show-stopper for me.
I'm seriously considering getting the $88 GPS and downgrading from a N810 to a N800. Combined costs would be similar and overall, the two devices would be more useful.
I like Nokia products, but they need to re-think their business plan. Why did they get into bed with Wayfinder? Why add WiMax when they could have upgraded the memory/processor, hardware for better performance. Nothing is more frustrating then using a device that works halfway.

munky261 2008-07-10 23:38

Re: Wayfinder maps updated!!!
 
eh...just say screw it and use the macchanger hack... serves em right LOL

james.bottomtooth 2008-07-11 04:52

Re: Wayfinder maps updated!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by munky261 (Post 199627)
*bump* i am still unable to download voices can anyone help me with this?

for some reason i can't download voices in diablo either, i think it works for the older version of OS and Map... i click on the voice, something flashes and it just hangs there

somehow i got it.

here is Carina du Plessis
http://www.yousendit.com/download/TT...SWV1Yk0wTVE9PQ

unzip and place in \map\navicore\Sounds\sound_eng\Carina du Plessis

CrashandDie 2008-07-16 10:36

Re: Wayfinder maps updated!!!
 
Not all the files on http://www.navicoretech.com/Consumer...B/wfnavigator/ had been updated.

I've contacted them, and they now are :).

allnameswereout 2008-07-16 18:31

Re: Wayfinder maps updated!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by munky261 (Post 199179)
ive got the previous version of the map app installed running the updated maps...maps and nav work fine but it isnt letting me download voices...can someone tell me how to fix this or send me the file for carinna du plessis (english accented woman) ????

Thats British, if you want female/American try Sara.

If the map data is saved on Ext2/Ext3 then it has some problems with CaSe SeNsItIvItY. I experienced this today. This solved it:

# cd /media/mmc2/map
# ln -s navicore Navicore

callanish 2008-07-16 21:01

Re: Wayfinder maps updated!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CrashandDie (Post 203522)
Not all the files on http://www.navicoretech.com/Consumer...B/wfnavigator/ had been updated.

I've contacted them, and they now are :).

So, just to verify before I download the USA map from the website rather than from the Nokia which can take forever; the U.S west map on the Navicore personal download is 718MB's. My 2006.1 map for the U.S West map on the Nokia states 685mbs. The available updated map on the nokia 2008.1 is 726mb's. Is the one on the Navicore website actually updated because the numbers don't match.

Any ideas?

geneven 2008-07-16 21:05

Re: Wayfinder maps updated!!!
 
I don't understand all the complaining about cost. I downloaded the West map and it's great. My total cost outlay: $0. The amount I intend to ever pay: $0. I will mainly rely on Maemo Mapper. Its cost: $0.


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