Whoa there
 

dattani98 is right that the service has been up and down, but it's also obvious Ruslan is working on it and that we're all sitting at the front edge of this technology (very beta). Let's go easy with the stereotypes and keep working together to help make using gtalk2voip with the N770 better. Most of the gtalk2voip services can be tested for free and nobody else on this thread seems to be hung up on money/credibility issues.

For my part, I just got my first call in about 15 attempts to go through and sustain the connection, voice quality was very acceptable with a 2 sec delay.

Ruslan: What more can those of us with 770's do to help you troubleshoot the server problem?

Thank you for good words Markd. Just keep making test calls periodically, so we will get more data to analyze in our logs and see how our intermediate patchings work (or don't work :-)). You are right, I am working on the gateway right now, so it may go up and down.

Regards,
Ruslan.

The GTalk2VoIP development team.

Working Great / Well Sort of
 

I am able to make calls via the 770 to land line no problem, I recieved my first call today from a land line and my new 206 number from IPKALL

Really cool stuff

I noticed a problem with the connection when calling from a new number. If connect to googletalk using the windows client and my ID I am using on the 770, I get invite requests from the numbers trying to call me, once I have accepted them, I can then logon to the 770 and recieve phone calls from that phone number. The problem is without first accpeting an invite from a new number, the 770 will not prompt you to accept it. When the call comes in, my contacts open up, but without the number calling me.

Is there something I am missing, or is this just the way it works?

Thanks,

i second that. we're lucky there is someone out there willing to develop a call out service that will work for the 770. especially in it 's beta form.

thank you ruslan.

That's right. That's how Google Talk (as all other XMPP clients) works, every contact in your roster must be invited or invitation must be accepted from them.

Regards,
Ruslan.

The GTalk2VoIP development team.

We need to all just be patient and give Ruslan any help or troubleshooting he needs. Remember, two weeks ago VoIP on the 770 was not even possible, let alone being able to call landlines or receive calls.

This technology is amazing - finally something useful, not the usual video and MP3 capability that just about every gadget has these days. I am new to this, I had no idea this tech even existed to this extent, and it opens up so many possibilites on the 770.

I have had good success using the gtalk2voip service, but I am being realistic - it's not gonna replace my cell phone, but once the bugs are all worked out, I will definitely be buying some credits. The service does go down occasionally, but it usually comes right back the times I have checked.

Ruslan - do the credits expire after a set amount of time, or do they stay in the account?

But that means I need to know whos going to call before they call, so I can log into a windows box to accept the invitation, this kinds of stinks

Shouldn't the 770 allow me to accept the invitations? Is this still being worked out?

Credits do stay on your balance untill you spend them up. No any kind of expiration is implemented. We are not greedy.

Regards,
Ruslan.

Well, I think it must allow to accept. Every time you get a call from a _new_ CallerID you will receive an invitation which you have to accept. After that it will just hang on in your roster untill you remove it (or make it invisible). Did I understand you right, or did you mean something else ? Could you pls invite me (ruslan.zalata@gmail.com) so we could check your issue on-the-fly.

Regards,
Ruslan.

Your Invited!!

This things seems to act different everytime I use it, now when a new number calls my ipkall number it logs me off googletalk on the 770.

I invited you to penguinb8@gmail.com which is my laptop
My 770 is at penguinbait@gmail.com

Chat me for my phone number

Ruslan - I didnt mean to hurt your feelings or offend you.

I was just expressing my frustration. I DO appreciate the hard work you are putting in to make this work and once the bugs are sorted, I will be buying credits.

So carry on with what you are doing and you could have a good customer base here.

Just an update
 

As of right now service@gtalk2voip is available, I can make outgoing calls via service chat, but not from the contacts list, they all time out after about 10-20 seconds. I am able to make calls into 770 from ipkall if I first use my ID in windows version of googletalk to accept the invitation (the first time for each phone number). Callers who have I have not accepted invitations can not reach me. When they call my googletalk logs off and back on and my call contact comes up for me to pick someone to call. It does not ask me to accept a invitation.

Does this work for anyone else???

this seems like a google talk bug. has anyone reported it yet?

If you dial **898+1+number on FWD shouldn;t you be doing "call **8981xxxyyyzzzz@fwd.pulver.com" ? Or maybe "call xxxyyyzzzz@packet8.net" if Packet8 uses ten digit numbers?

BTW, Ruslan - shouldn't you be sending sip:gururise@gtalk2voip.com in the From header so the call can be returned?

Invitations
 

Has anyone been able to recieve an invitation on a 770, I can not recieve invitations on my 770, I am thinking it is related to my account because I reflashed my OS and it behaved the same way.

Can anyone confirm this? Can you recieve an invitation on your 770?

no, you cannot accept invitations. it seems to be a bug, or they forgot to add that part.

Apparently you can
 

I noticed the green and orange guy blinking, if you click on it you will see at the bottom under "Set presence" authorizations and open chats

It still does not work on the fly for me though, when I recieve an invitation my googletalk logs off and on and when it logs back on I can then see the authorization request, but I already missed the call, you can then authorize them and when they call back it should go through.

Not sure why the crash is happening though, a googletalk bug most likely

:)

Yeah, I think we have to keep in mind that this is still the beta OS we're working with here, and there could be reasons beyond our control as to why things are working a little flaky. I know that sometimes when I have a browser window open and have been using Google Talk [chat or voice], after closing that app, I sometimes get kicked out of the browser. There have been a few times where I had to reboot just to open the browser again because would keep giving me an application error.

After few days testing of GTalk on 770 as well as on PC I have come to a conclusion that the GTalk client on 770 is either 1) very buggy or 2) not completely ported... thus the Beta status. I have had no problems on receiving or making calls from my PC client, but I have not been able to receive any (phone originated) calls using 770 client. Ruslan has been working on with this very hard but I think it may not be worth extensive effort until the final 2006 OS version comes out for 770. Hopefully by that time the Gtalk client on 770 is fully equivalent with the PC client and no workarounds are needed.

That's what I think and feel free to disagree or point me to a "magic bullet" how to get this to work...

For Ruslan I want to encourage that once this is working good I'm planning on buying credits. At this time this is just not working that good that I'd like to shell out the cash yet...

Well, I'd like everyone to know that I have purchased $10 worth of credits because the service is good enough for me to use as is. My hope is that the service becomes worthwhile enough to 770 users to do the same. I don't think it's enough to sopport the gtalk2voip team, but I'll be doing my part while enjoying the great service and will continue to help in testing other features Ruslan is trying to include.

Sure I can send it, but there're many ppl who use other domains, like google.com, or jabber.org, so it is impossible to mask them by a single domain gtalk2voip.com. Anyway, I'll try to do it.

Regards,
Ruslan.

Thanks for funding, =DC= :-)

Regards,
Ruslan.

Hello Mara. We have had a number of testings yesterday with several guys who own N770 devices. In most cases things worked well, except some invitation problem (it leads to googletalk crash on Penguinbait's N770, which is odd). If you still unable to make phone/SIP calls using our gateway, pls contact me in googletalk so we could find the reason. Thank you.

Regards,
Ruslan.

No problem. It's a wonderful idea, and there are alot of great ideas that could use as much support as possible. It's really the way things should be: Start a project as an experiment [in this case based on Open Source Software] -> Gain intrest and support from the community [again OSS comunity and users of the service] -> Assess the sustainability, reliability, and flexibility of the product/service -> From there, you can decide fate of the project and grow from there. :D

It really is a good feeling to support such a well deserved service that has had a noticable amount of thought and effort put into its creation.

I will continue to support this great service as long as the service continues to be great. Much success to your ideas Ruslan. :)

Ruslan, Don't get me wrong, I really like this to work on both ways. As it stands now (tested this morning), the behavior is consistent that I can not receive calls originated from phones (Vonage VoIP or Cell phone). I seem to have the same problem as Penguinbait, as Gtalk crashes on 770 every time call is coming in. I have added the contacts to my contact list but still it does not let the calls get through. I have had no problems on placing outgoing calls from 770. Only the receiving side has the problem.

I'll try to PM you via Gtalk once I see you online and I have time...

After the googletalk client crashes, if you click on the two guys on the left, between the bookmarks and the menu, you will see at the bottom, below "Set presence" the way to authorize the incomming call, it will always fail the first time ( for me and perhaps Mara ), can anyone else configrm this behavior? Can anyone accept an invitation without the problems I am experiencing?

Mara also if you login to a windows client you will easily see the invitation, one you accepted it on the account, that caller can call without needing to accept the invitation on the 770, but you can do it on the 770 with the above instructions


FYI, I purchased 10$ worth a week ago and have been working on this and it is quite impressive. I really can't wait until they put out a final OS, this will be something really worth your money.

Has anyone been able to make a call for less than 6 cent a minute?, everytime I try to use cheaper providers I just get garble...

Penguinbait: Thanks for the tip. In fact by following your instructions I was able to receive phone call with 770 from my Vonage home phone! :) However, the same did not work when I tried to call from my cell phone... :confused: In Windows I don't recall seeing the invitation at all, the Gtalk always rings and I can pick up the call without authorizing. Both of my phones (home and cell) are in my contact list so they should be "authorized"?

Have you guys noticed that the mic sensitivityof 770 is set at max at first before you start talking? In my case the 770 mic picks up all the background noise until I start talking and the (automatic) gain control sets the mic gain to a correct level...

I have been able to have calls for around 2 cents a minute. The numbers I've tested have been New Orleans, LA [I'm in Georgia]. I think most of the local numbers are around 2 cents per minute as well. If I'm not mistaken, there is a way to rate service providers based on price somewhere on the gtalk2voip site.

I do notice some minor issues with Google Talk acting strange at times, and even more often when connectiong directly to another Google Talk user. Sometimes the person on the other end can hear me but I can't hear them. It usually takes about 2 or 3 reconnects to get a decent connection. I have a feeling that a large percentage of the problems Ruslan is having with gtalk2voip compatiblility on the 770 must be due to the OS being beta and Google Talk not fully bug free either.

Voice quality overseas call
 

I made a call from 770 (US) to cell phone (Finland) using Gtalk2voip service. The voice quality was very good both ways with very little, if any, lag. Certainly on par with my Vonage service. Althought the cost is not any cheaper than with Vonage, this is nice addition for "on the go" situations.

So I've added service@gtalk2voip.com but i don't get any replies to my messages like "HELP".

Are you sure? Look up on the screen: when you type "Help", all commands are listed. So, you just see the last line.

And make sure you've got a green dot next to that contact.

Were you able to accept the call from Vonage the first time, or did it crash the first time? Are you experiencing the logoff when a new invitation come in the first time? Is anyone else?

My behavior seem to be exactly same as yours: First time the Gtalk crashed (or logged off?), restarted and I saw that invitation on that Gtalk menu you mentioned. After I accepted the invitation, second time I had no problem on receiving and answering call from Vonage phone.

Cool I was starting to think it was related to my googletalk account. Can anyone else configrm this behavior, or have different behavior?

How are the prices? I tried to test it out, but it seemed that the rates were much higher than skypes prices (for outgoing calls). Also, the pricing scheme seemed a bit odd.

prices
 

The prices are between 2 and 6 cents US per minute depending on carrier. I have had no luck with carrier less than 6 cents but other people have had success with the lower cost carriers. It charges by the second.

I happily paid $10 to play with the functionality on my 770

re: accepting first time incoming caller
 

FWIW my experience matches penguinbait & mara's. First time callers make gtalk hiccup and restart- although, I'd guess this is likely a bug in the gtalk on 770 implementation. Has anyone filed a bug on the maemo bugtracker?

Hi,
Isn't there any "real" sip client that could be ported to Maemo ?

Fred