Re: Nokia 770 "No Connections Available"
 

Having same issues in the work, and at home and can confirm that N will kill it.
I have spend 100-200 hours with this device and have never been able to do the things why i bought it for, and at last it's breathing stopped with the wlan problems. Thank god i guess.
I have bought nokia mobile products since 1995 but lag of support makes me support other manufacturers from now on (15+ phones, including couple communicators, i-tablets and stuff).

Re: Nokia 770 "No Connections Available"
 

Yeah...I think 770 owners got the shaft big time from Nokia. No...I don't expect products to be supported forever, but it seems the drop of support for the 770 was much quicker then most hi-tech products.

Re: Nokia 770 "No Connections Available"
 

After reading these no network threads I decided to try the stainless steel mixing bowl idea as nothing else would work to connect the 770 to my 802.11g router at home. I borrowed the bowl from my wife's stand mixer and placed the 770 in it facing the router which was less than 12 inches away. Once I searched for a connection my network was immediately available and I connected while leaving the 770 in the bowl. Once connected I could use the 770 normally from anywhere in my home.

I'm sure one of my neighbors recently purchased a N router which caused my no network problem. Perhaps I'll invest in a travel size stainless steel bowl in case I run into this problem while out of town.

Re: Nokia 770 "No Connections Available"
 

Announcing, From Nokia - New Wireless Security for the Nokia 770

Nokia has officially announced the SS security extension for its 770 model Internet Tablet.

This, in effect, prevents anyone who is not familiar with the technology from connecting the device to an access point.

Mark Itingguy of Nokia says, "We're very excited about this new security model. No one in the current space has anything like it. This follows up perfectly on our White Screen security extension for the 770, which can totally protect the device from all attempted access. The combination of these two security features, which I might add are ONLY available to Nokia 770 users, can render the device almost totally secure. Our engineers are working on a third extension which will totally corrupt any memory in the storage card for complete mobile security. Keep you eyes out for that one!!!"

Mr. Itingguy has said that they are currently working with cooking.com for a rollout of the SS security extension accessory.

Re: Nokia 770 "No Connections Available"
 

I have the same situation here: Suddenly Wlan networks were not to found, Bluetooth works though and devices are scanned. Probably my several neighourrs got wlan-n or wlan-g count rised up too much..
I even opened the thing and cleaned antenna connector are other (Youtube v=HdTN6vx2D4M) but nothing worked.

Offline / online toogling did nothing... this s auful..

I'll test the commadLine based manual AP setup...

Edit: I tested the solution, but it did not get the web / application manager to see the net: so what's the point. I dragged the Device to more quiet wlan coverage and it showed the avaiable accespoints! At least the HW works!! :)

Re: Nokia 770 "No Connections Available"
 

Workaround with UI (by using maemo-pan application) for solving this problem:

Tested on 2008HE. Installed packages: xterm, gainroot, wireless-tools.

1. Install maemo-pan. This will create Bluetooth-PAN dummy connection that will be used to connect to your home wlan from UI.
2. Edit /usr/lib/maemo-pan/pan-control file and replace the whole file with the below code.
3. Edit MY_NETWORK with your network name. This should be the name of the wireless network that you want to use and is already configured in Connections.
4. Edit MY_ESSID with your wireless SSID.

Maybe someone knows an algorithm to convert list of intergers returned from wlan_ssid to string (see line 25 from script)? In this case it could be set automatically in the script.

Note: Tested only WEP security. WPA security will not work, I guess the implementation is more complex to make it work with iwconfig.

Re: Nokia 770 "No Connections Available"
 

I have been suffering from this ever since my netgear b/g router died. got a linksys n router and the problems started. luckily i had an old netgear b/g router which i used to provide access for my 770. that died and I got a very cheap one off ebay that seemed to do the job. then one day my neighbours upgraded to a bt home hub and that pretty much killed things for me.

I have upgraded the 770 to os2007he and it just started connecting while it was sat there charging one day. I hadn't asked it to search for a network, it just connected!!

I don't mind the workarounds to get the thing online... the thing that bothers me most of all is that when no connections are available, the battery life sucks. by that i mean 4 hours tops. yet when there is an active connection, i can at least leave the thing on overnight without waking up to find it has turned itself off.

is there a setting in the wireless configuration which means that it is constantly seeking out networks whether or not i ask it to?

Re: Nokia 770 "No Connections Available"
 

Wow, I'm glad I spotted this thread. I live in an apartment and my 770just stopped working soon after getting my n810. I just happened to bring it into work and I was amazed it worked. I guess one of my neighbors got a Wireless-N router.

Re: Nokia 770 "No Connections Available"
 

Epage, I hope one day you can bring the DialCentral to work on 770. I am still using my 770 everyday, even though I have a N800.

Re: Nokia 770 "No Connections Available"
 

i gave up on the shielding, and the scripts, remember there is one sure way to fix this:

Downgrade to OS 2005

I am sure if we pull out the network connectivity scripts from OS 2005 and throw it into a more recent OS, this will all get fixed.

But . . . like everyone else, I keep looking at the new devices and just dont find myself wanting to spend time fixing it for good.

i dont have anything running on my 770 anymore, used to have a ton of apps but now its just a little internet tablet. Which is ok I guess, it still works under OS 2005, lol.

Re: Nokia 770 "No Connections Available"
 

On 2008He, to connect:

1) plug it in, it has to use tons of juice to find network, or
2) repeat connect once, it usually catch on the 2nd time
3) simply wait for a few minute, it will catch

bun

Re: Nokia 770 "No Connections Available"
 

Sbrsh for maemo 2.x == broken. Solution: Upgrade to 2007HE.

802.11n kills wifi in 2007HE. Fix? None, and there never will be.

Complete bs. You can shove your unsupported 770 up your ***.

Re: Nokia 770 "No Connections Available"
 

That sounds like an extreme form of the body-shielding technique, which does actually work (see posts in this thread and others). The technique sounds daft, but is based on perfectly sound Physics. Your body absorbs microwaves, including wifi signals. If you stand close to your router, your own signal will penetrate the body-shielding, but more distant signals will not. If you are lucky, that will exclude all n-type signals and allow you to connect to your own b/g.

In my apartment building there are at least 30 AP's within range of Nokia 770 and N800. Body-shielding reduces that to three, including my own. I can connect 100% of the time. If either of my two closest neighbours were to install an n router, I probably would not succeed any more with the 770.

Theoretically, any large piece of unfrozen meat should do just as well as your body. However, you are more likely to have your body available when you want to connect wifi. Clothing does not interfere with the process and is advised for avoiding smudges on your screen.

2.4 GHz portable phones also interfere with your wifi connection. They are even worse than n routers, in that they will break an existing connection. This is a problem for high-end laptops as well as for Nokia 770.

Re: Nokia 770 "No Connections Available"
 

Mer v0.16 is also free from this problem. Since Mer runs on the same kernel as OS2008HE, there might be hope of fixing OS2008HE. I do not have the skills to do it myself, but I have written to Stskeeps to see whether he could help.

Apologies to moderators for adding the same post to two different threads. It's hard to know which forum this topic belongs to. Evidence from OS2005 and Mer shows that it is not a 770 hardware problem. It is a firmware problem of OS2006, 2007HE and 2008HE. In the absence of forums for the HE's, maybe it belongs here.

Re: Nokia 770 "No Connections Available"
 

did not have wireless-tools installed in my 770 with OS2007HE, after downloading and installing from http://mulliner.org/nokia770/
(Bora), WEP did worked flawlessly, have to be root although.

surprisingly, it now connects from anywhere. I'm happy.

Side note: as I messed up by running the script above without
iwconfig been installed, got to delete the /etc/resolv.conf
nameserver 192.168.1.1 (my router). In order to make the
contorsionist body shielding act to get internet and download
the wireless-tools and for the nokia 770 to be as it was before.

This is most likely a software problem, my guess is that it has to
do with resolv.conf nameserver config. as the problem behavior is
indistinguishable when down.

Re: Nokia 770 "No Connections Available"
 

QUOTE: Originally Posted by LaVorAta View Post
You can shove your unsupported 770 up your ***.

If Steve read your post before facing the reporters, that would save Apple 4.5 million$ of the Apple shield. And with the way Steve does business, he is not going to just talk about it, he WILL show you.

bun

Re: Nokia 770 "No Connections Available"
 

It's not a case of "most likely". The problem very definitely lies in the system software of OS2006, 2007HE and 2008HE. (Sorry if my previous post did not make this clear. I followed Nokia's usage in referring to the system software as "firmware", contrary to the IEEE definition. Most other members of this forum also follow Nokia's usage.)

As noted in the previous post, OS2005 and Mer v0.16 are free from this problem. Success with Mer shows that the problem lies in the rootfs of OS2008HE (and presumably the rootfs of OS2006 and OS2007HE), since everything except the rootfs is the same for Mer as it is for OS2008HE.

The wiki says that Mer-0.16 is experimental on the 770, but it is actually quite usable for certain purposes. It depends on what you want to do and how urgently you want to do it. Suppose you have to catch a flight in the morning, and a web check-in beforehand will ensure an easier time at the airport. If your hotel wifi uses b/g/n, you will not be able to connect using OS2008HE. Body shielding will not help, because anything that blocks out the n signal will also block out the b/g. This is a time when Mer can be useful. If you have brought an MMC partitioned between Mer and swap, and your bootmenu is set up appropriately, you can switch MMC's and do your check-in.

[Web check-in can be done on a BT -> GPRS connection, but wifi is much preferable. Most airlines set a time limit for completing the procedure. On a slow connection, there is a good chance that you will exceed the time limit and have to start over, unless you really know your way around the website. Mer can be frustrating on the 770 (see next 3 paragraphs), but Mer+wifi is a big improvement over OS2008HE+GPRS for this type of procedure. Similar considerations apply to purchasing tickets, changing reservations etc.]

For basic internet purposes (browser and email), the frustrating thing about Mer on 770 is the long time it takes to boot up (2 min 45 sec)*, to connect (1 min to connect with a hidden, previously saved AP), and to open applications (1 min 35 sec for Tear, 21 sec for Claws Mail).

Once in a while the boot gets stuck, so that you have to remove the battery and start again. Occasionally the boot is complete, but the CPU load remains stuck at the maximum (load-applet is built in); in this case, everything will be extremely slow until you reboot.

Claws Mail is a full-size version displayed on a 10 cm screen, and everything is very tiny; this is also true for several installable apps such as the Text Editor. On the onscreen keyboard, toggling between lower-case and upper-case is very slow, and the "stroke" technique does not work. Display dimming/switchoff are set at 30sec/60sec, and there is no obvious way to change this setting. Your device will go a little crazy if you leave it in "Normal" mode without connecting to a network (the battery will drain, even if the cover is on); you have to put it in "Offline" mode when you don't want to be connected.

If you can put up with these irritations, there are a lot of good things about Mer. The Tear browser and Claws Mail are fast and work well, once they have opened up. There is an excellent version of X-Terminal built in, much better than anything available for Maemo before OS2008. A number of things that don't show up in the GUI can be done at the command line. For example, contrary to reports elsewhere, FBReader is available for Mer on 770. It has to be installed with apt-get and invoked from X-Term. Once invoked, FBReader's own GUI takes over and it all works; its library responds to the stylus better than in any version of FBReader for Maemo that I have seen.

*(It takes about 1 min 30 sec for the progress bar to cross the screen during the boot. Then there is about 1 min when the screen displays the Mer theme and nothing else. Sometimes, as noted above, the boot fails to proceed beyond this point. Until you have booted a few times and grown used to the 1 min pause, it seems that the boot always gets stuck. However, it does proceed to completion if you wait, at least 9 times out of 10.)


People keep writing about "contortions" in connection with the body shielding. I wish I knew what they meant. Do you perform contortions when you buckle your belt? Body shielding uses about the same posture. All you have to do is to hold the front of the 770 against your (clothed) abdomen, with your hands covering as much as possible of the sides and back. Your wife and kids might giggle if they see you, because it looks dopey. But then, we all look dopey when we stare intently at a tiny screen, so what's the difference?

[EDIT: It doesn't matter whether you hold the front or the back of the device against the bulk of your body, so long as you cover the rest as much as possible with your hands. In either case, using OS2008HE, the search in my apartment finds my own AP and two others, and I can connect. If I hold the 770 with fingertips against my bulk (not covering with hands), no connections are available. Doing the same test with N800, covering with bulk+hands also blocks out all but my AP and the same two others; bulk+fingertips leads to my own and six others. Presumably one of the extra four is n-type and causes the search to fail in 2008HE.]

You also have to develop a knack for the timing, since you can't see the screen during the search. When there has been enough time for the search, you must act quickly to initiate the connection and then immediately shield again. Some people might find it awkward or unnatural to combine patience and swiftness in this way. It still falls far short of "contortions".

Re: Nokia 770 "No Connections Available"
 

thanks scaler. I didn't realize mer .16 existed. I've had 2005 loaded for a year now but . . . no decent apps, so I'm going to try it out and maybe my nokia 770 wont be a useless brick anymore! :-)

Re: Nokia 770 "No Connections Available"
 

You can get a tarball for it from http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer/Releases/0.16 . The 770 version is at the very bottom of the page. Most browsers make a peculiar twitch upwards when you go that far down, concealing the link almost immediately. You can prevent that by placing your cursor over the link in the brief time when it is visible.

The installation instructions are all right in general, although I didn't follow them exactly. I don't use wget or the latest bootmenu app (wget takes up too much space in the 770's internal flash when you have 2008HE installed). Instead, I used a PC to download the tarball into the MMC in a card reader. For the bootmenu, I'm still happy with Fanoush's original initfs_flasher, using vi to edit the bootmenu.conf.

[EDIT: I might not be remembering correctly how I downloaded. I might possibly have downloaded to Shared Folders on the Windows PC and copied it from there to the MMC in the 770 via wifi. Or I might have copied it via a USB thumb drive - the 770 is flashed to persistent host mode, so that it behaves like a computer instead of a $7 card reader.]

There is one error in the instructions. I believe that you ought to cd out of /mnt/mer before unmounting it.

It turns out that you have to untar the tarball on the 770 itself. When I did it on the PC (with MMC in the card reader), mer would not boot on the 770.

I assume that gtar will work on the 770. I am still using the old explosive osso-tar that has disappeared from the repositories.

Good luck with mer. I can't honestly promise that it will be much fun. It does fill a specific need though, if you urgently want to connect your 770 to wifi.

Re: Nokia 770 "No Connections Available"
 

scaler i had no problem putting on wget with 2008he there is plenty of room, wget is small. My problem is that it took me a few days of downloads to finally finish the 150 meg download, the nokia under 2008HE is kind of erratic. Also I suggest commenting out "swap" on partition 2 of your mmc2 in the listed instructions, it makes the nokia freeze even more especially given that the tarball and download take so long.

I dont know where you found something to read an MMC card those are kind of obsolete at this time.

If you can't connect the 770 to wifi what the heck good is it, that's what it was built for!

still not sure mer 0.16 is the best, might go back to 2005 just cause its quicker

Re: Nokia 770 "No Connections Available"
 

after a week trying to get mer 0.16 to work I'm going back to OS 2005 for now. Anyone else who tries mer 0.16 let me know if it works for you (or doesn't). At least OS 2005 is stable and fast. No aps, but you can get on the wifi. I forgot that I could use my VMware ubuntu to load my EXT3 filesystem on the nokia 770 via the usb, you don't need an MMC reader to write big files right to the MMC card. Next time I load this, I'll do it the easy way.

Re: Nokia 770 "No Connections Available"
 

2008HE on internal flash is erratic because it has insufficient space. You don't want to add ANYTHING that you don't need. wget is a "luxury" item because there are always other ways to get your download.


That would be a reason to download to PC, if there is one available.


By an eBay search for "card reader mmc". The kind I use seems to be available now for under $1, including shipping to almost anywhere in the world. Here is a trader with 100% positive feedback: http://cgi.ebay.ca/USB-2-0-SDHC-SD-M...item4aa695a267

Your PC would have to be running some kind of Linux to make the download into the ext3 partition. If you only have Windows, you might have to dl to a USB drive and put your 770 into host mode to transfer the tarball to your MMC. The old threads and wikis about host mode on the 770 have disappeared, but I wrote a few posts about it in a thread of Bunanson's recently. The first one is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=58097&page=2 , written for non-Linux users . (If you have a Linux PC available, it is simpler and better to use the 0xFFFF flasher to activate host mode.)


It depends on what you want to do. Many websites don't recognise the OS2005 browser as a "real" computer and won't let you transact business with it. Mer is a pain, but it does work.


I find the opposite, that a large swap space is the only way to keep 2008HE from freezing.

Sorry if the Mer suggestion has given you a lot of work. I did say that it was unlikely to be much fun.

Re: Nokia 770 "No Connections Available"
 

oh it was fun tinkering with it. thanks.

Your PC would have to be running some kind of Linux

it's really easy to use vmware first download the vmware player, and then download your favorite linux, I used ubuntu, then ubuntu will run as an application under windows and share the internet and usb connections.

This also lets you develop your SDK aps from your windows machine from within the linux appliance

with how easy it is to use vmware and ubuntu even if I had an mmc reader i would still plug it straight in, it's a bit easier than using your own mmc reader cause it plugs right into your machine and you can change stuff on your nokia without having to pull out and plug in the mmc

Re: Nokia 770 "No Connections Available"
 

I just loaded OS2005 on my 770 and i have internet access again!! does we know what the problem is with OS2006 that is causing the no network connections issue?

Re: Nokia 770 "No Connections Available"
 

yes, there's a bad module in the kernel when it hits a 802.11n network, it returns an error which bombs the entire scan, we dont have access to this module so we cant fix it. If nokia wanted to this would be a 5 minute fix, but this product is no longer supported.

Re: Nokia 770 "No Connections Available"
 

Hence the reason I no longer buy anything from Nokia!! I know you can't support every product forever, but for those that are still regularly used if a nagging issue could be solved relatively quickly by a Nokia programmer they should do it...or allow the community to do it by releasing the source. I think it says a lot about Nokia!

Re: Nokia 770 "No Connections Available"
 

btw i loaded up wpa-supplicant, wireless-tools, python, Bora, build wicd on the SDK, loaded it all up and it still has the same problem. I guess wicd/wireless-tools uses the same broken wifi scan module that's in that kernel.

Back to OS2005 :-(

lost my navigator and the bluetooth on my nokia 770
 

i need help ,i was updating my tablet and i lost the navigator (navicore) the maps and all the program and the bluetooth icon doesnt apear any more and i cant connect withmy gps wireless antenna neither with other phones .... how can i get my navicore navigation app and my bluetooth back and is there any sites where i can download maps for this tablet ....


thank you

Re: Nokia 770 "No Connections Available"
 

So, OS2005 is the only OS to use when there is N accesspoints to hear? and OS2005 WPA2-PSK is no-go?

great..

What if I took the Modem that has G-AP in it to a location that had no N-networks, would it then list the networks? If I then connect to it, will it work when I get the modem back to N-network area?

EDIT:
Well.. what's the point if I teach the device one AP, because the device can not connect to a AP that It can not see.

Is there ANY way just to force the device to connect to a created Connection entry?