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Cprocida 2008-09-29 14:47
Re: welcome to a new update all diablo os2008 users!
 
Hi,

After upgrading to the new version of OS2008 (new version: 4.2008.36-5), maemomapper did not work anymore.

When I put an address on "go to address", after some time a message appears: "Failed to connect to GPX directions server".

Does anyone know why this happened and what the solution to solve this problem?

Thanks,

prk60091 2008-09-29 14:47
Re: welcome to a new update all diablo os2008 users!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by debudebu (Post 228387)
hi. i can't remember how i installed the patch. can someone help me out with uninstalling it? the idea of possibly re-flashing for this update too makes me tired.

thanks

i have exactly the same issue...and i cannot remember installing any patch to flash...

benny1967 2008-09-29 15:11
Re: welcome to a new update all diablo os2008 users!
 
i'm still at the office and will do this update when i'm home. - meanwhile: i remember last time there where issues with SSU when people didn't have enough space on the device so the files needed for the update couldn't be processed and the whole thing stalled.

is this still possible or did they include a check this time? if they didn't, does anyone know how much space is recommended for a sfe upgrade?

albright 2008-09-29 15:18
Re: welcome to a new update all diablo os2008 users!
 
Hi all. I dual boot from sd card and use kde. Does anyone have
step by step instructions for how to install the update and not
have to reinstall the sd card setup and apps? Last update I had
to reflash and reinstall :(

Matyas 2008-09-29 15:23
Re: welcome to a new update all diablo os2008 users!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by albright (Post 228401)
Hi all. I dual boot from sd card and use kde. Does anyone have
step by step instructions for how to install the update and not
have to reinstall the sd card setup and apps? Last update I had
to reflash and reinstall :(
There is already a "dirty way" to make the new initfs works with the update but tonight fanoush will relase the updated package of the initfs flasher, useful to get the bootmenu.

So, if you want to use your tablet from the card, wait till tonigh.

svrkprabhakar 2008-09-29 15:31
Re: welcome to a new update all diablo os2008 users!
 
Thanks a lot for letting know about this update. the update is not automatically notified by NIT, I had to launch the application manager and manually refresh it then only it identified the update. No issues with update, finished smoothly.
First thing I did was to check the performance of browser.

Videos:
CNN: still bad, no improvement. Choppy voice and image
Youtube: Excellent voice and image
BBC: Poor streaming but voice is a bit better than CNN
Veoh: Didn't load the image, says I need to upgrade the flash which is not possible with NIT world so easily
Google videos: Good voice and image streaming.

Page loading speed: Appears to have improved on certain (CNN) but no change on others (BBC, google)

I see quite a bit of improvement on YT and Google Videos and none or not significant in other cases.

No issue with Memo mapper
All my podcast streams have disappeared from gPodder!
All my contacts, browser bookmarks are intact.
Booting is a bit faster after second and third booting
Browser loaded slow after first booting and was OK afterwords.
I thought application loading was a bit faster now than previous. Not sure if I am right, please let me know what is your experience.
No visual improvements at all:mad:

Ok, it is time to get back to secular work:o

mikkov 2008-09-29 15:36
Re: welcome to a new update all diablo os2008 users!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by svrkprabhakar (Post 228407)
Thanks a lot for letting know about this update. the update is not automatically notified by NIT, I had to launch the application manager and manually refresh it then only it identified the update.
Tablet will notify about the update, but it checks for updates once a day, so it doesn't notify instantly.

Reggie 2008-09-29 15:38
Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!
 
Quote:
A Seamless Software Upgrade (SSU) notification should prompt you of a v4.2008.36-5 firmware update once you go online with your Maemo 4.1 (Diablo) device. The update aims to improve email, web browsing, and connectivity. Early reports from itT members are mixed. Some have updated with no problems and have reported faster browsing, while others are experiencing locks, boot menu problems, looping reboots, and package conflicts which seem to get fixed after a manual reflash. If you have installed anything out of the ordinary, be sure to read through the thread before updating.
Read the full article.

Laughing Man 2008-09-29 15:40
Re: welcome to a new update all diablo os2008 users!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by prk60091 (Post 228397)
i have exactly the same issue...and i cannot remember installing any patch to flash...
It was probably the patch that fixed the version string (the last update changed the reported version which resulted in websites thinking the flash we had was outdated). I dunno how to uninstall it (though I do remember where we got it from).

Anyway, what's the command to backup my bootmenu (I configured it already with details like return to : #) so I prefer not having to reconfigure it.

svrkprabhakar 2008-09-29 15:41
Re: welcome to a new update all diablo os2008 users!
 
I really wonder if NIT can ever improve its video performance, it sucks when I compare it with Ipod. I just dont get it how NIT is made without keeping video performance in view, the last two updates didnt made much progress on this front and I wonder if it is conforming that the issue with the hardware!!!

Laughing Man 2008-09-29 15:43
Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!
 
Well the hardware is slightly dated.

AstroGuy 2008-09-29 15:44
Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!
 
Update worked smoothly on my N810 except adblock as stopped working. Browser seems snappy, but ads, ads dirty stinkin ads everywhere.

lm2 2008-09-29 15:46
Re: welcome to a new update all diablo os2008 users!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matyas (Post 228403)
There is already a "dirty way" to make the new initfs works with the update but tonight fanoush will relase the updated package of the initfs flasher, useful to get the bootmenu.

So, if you want to use your tablet from the card, wait till tonigh.
Can you say more? I always boot from SD, and last SSU worked fine for me, but I can't remember if I had to install SSU in both flash and when booting from SD. So:

1. Will I need to install SSU from both flash and while booting from SD?
2. Will I need to do the same with fanoush's flasher?

Thanks!

Benson 2008-09-29 15:52
Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!
 
Well, if you are trying to keep an up-to-date system in flash, yes, you'll have to install the SSU there. If not, it may work, but changes to the kernel or initfs could cause issues requiring updating the corresponding userland.

There's one initfs, so you'll only need to fix that once.

svrkprabhakar 2008-09-29 15:52
Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Laughing Man (Post 228415)
Well the hardware is slightly dated.
But do you think the hardware is so bad to perform so terrible for playing small videos? I remember owning cyrix 233 Mhz processor 8 year back and my PC used to play videos and tv nuner pretty well! I believe it has partly to do with the bad architecture, OS, software etc etc.

salomc 2008-09-29 15:53
Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!
 
I also got reboot loop. Going to reflash, but I don't find the last OS version to download, only "crude" Diablo. Do I have to download Diablo and wait for the updates to show up?

debudebu 2008-09-29 15:58
Re: welcome to a new update all diablo os2008 users!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Laughing Man (Post 228411)
It was probably the patch that fixed the version string (the last update changed the reported version which resulted in websites thinking the flash we had was outdated). I dunno how to uninstall it (though I do remember where we got it from).

Anyway, what's the command to backup my bootmenu (I configured it already with details like return to : #) so I prefer not having to reconfigure it.
ok, i figured out how to fix the flash package conflict isue. just go to the application manager, select 'show installed packages', find 'flash-player-r48' and click uninstall. this package is small (something like 0.1 kb) and is not the actual flash plugin. it is just a version correction package, or whatever it is called. after uninistalling, go back to 'available updates' and install the new update.

so far microb is a bit faster. i haven't noticed anything else, but i have only used it for a couple minutes.

svrkprabhakar 2008-09-29 16:00
Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!
 
Honestly speaking, I wouldnt suggest to update your NITs if you are using multiple OS to boot to since I think it is not so worthwhile to take risk with this update.

migs 2008-09-29 16:08
Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!
 
Their is a big difference in the browser speed now. I was almost ready to give up on my N800. Its very usable now, even fit to width view! I dont have to use skweezer anymore yeah!

Finally I have an "Internet Tablet" and not a 300 dollar freezing, crashing paper weight.

la3875 2008-09-29 16:11
Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!
 
:( All has been well with my 810 since I got it in May, including reflashing and update notifications until today's OS update. Following today's update the desktop was all there but wireless was lost and all buttons were unresponsive. I then removed the battery and restarted and the device was in a rebooting loop and would not recover. I'm in the middle of reflashing now and will report the outcome.

svrkprabhakar 2008-09-29 16:12
Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!
 
I am glad that your N800 is doing better than before, but I am yet to hear from N810 holders to say the same least. At least I am not so much jumping with joy with this update on my N810. Of course, I wouldnt say that it is a 300 dollar paper weight:-))

Benson 2008-09-29 16:12
Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by svrkprabhakar (Post 228420)
But do you think the hardware is so bad to perform so terrible for playing small videos? I remember owning cyrix 233 Mhz processor 8 year back and my PC used to play videos and tv nuner pretty well! I believe it has partly to do with the bad architecture, OS, software etc etc.
In short, you have no clue what the limitation is.

Search, read, and you will learn. Hints: "epson" "bandwidth"

tso 2008-09-29 16:17
Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!
 
when they say "connectivity" do they refer to rtcomm?

it seems i can no longer log onto msn using the built in chat...

beyond that the update went smooth, even tho i was worried that i had not enough free space on the internal storage...

svrkprabhakar 2008-09-29 16:21
Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!
 
OK, I got it now, it has to do with the epson chip that is behind display rendering. So, how many software patches may come the video performance is not going to improve drastically...very sad:-(

vasvlad 2008-09-29 16:21
Re: Update causing problems - help please
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Halchemy (Post 228333)
Hmm... update appeared to install but n800 will not restart manually. I did not restart itself as I left it to do it it'self. It turns itself off near end of start process when blue bar is about 80% of way across screen and then back on again in a loop.

If I take memory cards out of n800, blue bar gets gets right across screen then it does same thing; blue light flashes three times it turns off and then restarts and goes through this process in endless loop.

Anybody any solution please?
I have this problem also :(

Vlad.

benny1967 2008-09-29 16:22
Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tso (Post 228433)
beyond that the update went smooth, even tho i was worried that i had not enough free space on the internal storage...
how much do you have? how much do i need?

tso 2008-09-29 16:24
Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 228436)
how much do you have? how much do i need?
well the update says its 33MB in size, i freeded up 37MB on internal, and after the update and reboot, still had 36MB free. so to tell the truth, i dont know...

Texrat 2008-09-29 16:26
Re: welcome to a new update all diablo os2008 users!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikkov (Post 228408)
Tablet will notify about the update, but it checks for updates once a day, so it doesn't notify instantly.
Right, the tablet typically has to be online for 24 hours straight for auto alerts to work.

svrkprabhakar 2008-09-29 16:29
Re: welcome to a new update all diablo os2008 users!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 228439)
Right, the tablet typically has to be online for 24 hours straight for auto alerts to work.
Well, it defeats the logic of autoupdate notification. It should happen instantaneously, I dont see any logic why it should take 24 hrs to notify an update.

febb 2008-09-29 16:31
Re: Update causing problems - help please
 
Infinite reboot cycle after updating. This is on an N810

The only "weird" thing that I had installed is the Rotate screen feature.

How could something like this happen. !....Oh well, let's reflash again.

Benson 2008-09-29 16:34
Re: welcome to a new update all diablo os2008 users!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by svrkprabhakar (Post 228440)
Well, it defeats the logic of autoupdate notification. It should happen instantaneously, I dont see any logic why it should take 24 hrs to notify an update.
Well, instantaneously would be pretty bad, as it would require either Nokia (and every other repository maintainer) having always available contact info to push data, or continuous polling from the device side; while 24h seems a bit excessive (I changed mine to 2h, IIRC), some interval is necessary, especially for people whose internet access is via limited-data mobile plans.

You can always poll manually at any time, so it's not a big issue, anyway (IMHO).

Texrat 2008-09-29 16:34
Re: welcome to a new update all diablo os2008 users!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by svrkprabhakar (Post 228440)
Well, it defeats the logic of autoupdate notification. It should happen instantaneously, I dont see any logic why it should take 24 hrs to notify an update.
I was told the logic, and it actually made sense, but I forget the rationale offhand. Maybe someone else remembers.

bluesubaru 2008-09-29 16:34
Re: welcome to a new update all diablo os2008 users!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by svrkprabhakar (Post 228440)
Well, it defeats the logic of autoupdate notification. It should happen instantaneously, I dont see any logic why it should take 24 hrs to notify an update.
If the system checks once a day for an update imagine the following: If it checked at 9:00AM and the update was released at 10AM, you will not be notified till 23 hours later when it checks again. Simple. The device isn't going to check constantly for something that happens maybe 10 times a year.

svrkprabhakar 2008-09-29 16:37
Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!
 
Well guys, you are right that it cant continuously poll and you are also right that it can't be 24 hrs. But it should happen for sure at least once immediately after the tablet connects to internet (as many number of times it connects to internet in a day)!

sachin007 2008-09-29 16:41
Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by svrkprabhakar (Post 228446)
Well guys, you are right that it cant continuously poll and you are also right that it can't be 24 hrs. But it should happen for sure at least once immediately after the tablet connects to internet (as many number of times it connects to internet in a day)!
That will make the tablet more unresponsive at startup. imagine checking email, rss feeds, media and on top of it updates all the time, even when it is rarely required.

I definitely would not want that.

Benson 2008-09-29 16:45
Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!
 
I think it does check upon coming online, as long as it's been 24h, or whatever you set, since the last check; Texrat indicated otherwise, and I could be wrong; mine is almost always connected, so I don't really know.

If it doesn't, then it definitely should. (Provided the timeout has elapsed -- if you're auto-reconnecting in an area of flaky data coverage, you could wind up updating every 5 minutes, which does eat bandwidth to no purpose.) It'd be nice, also, to provide UI for the timeout setting; right now it's done with a manual gconf edit, analogous to a registry tweak in Windows.

svrkprabhakar 2008-09-29 16:46
Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!
 
You may be right. But one amazing feature I think is RSS feeds get updated even if my RSS feed reader is not kept launched, only thing I need to do is keep my internet tablet switched on and connected to internet. but the same happen with gpodder or other rss parsers.

Texrat 2008-09-29 16:47
Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!
 
IMO 8 hours is probably a better low-side number for polling... but if I changed mine it would probably be to 12.

EDIT: it's my understanding that the device has to be online 24 hours before it can automatically see the SSU alert... but I could be wrong. However, that seemed to be borne out with the latest one I'm testing (not 36-5) because I had to finally force the issue manually since the tablet had been offline.

Quote:
Originally Posted by svrkprabhakar (Post 228451)
You may be right. But one amazing feature I think is RSS feeds get updated even if my RSS feed reader is not kept launched, only thing I need to do is keep my internet tablet switched on and connected to internet. but the same happen with gpodder or other rss parsers.
You can't really compare SSU with RSS.

migs 2008-09-29 16:47
Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!
 
So anybody know the list of fixes??

svrkprabhakar 2008-09-29 16:51
Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by migs (Post 228453)
So anybody know the list of fixes??
As far as I know it is only psychological fixes, not many 'mind blowing' or even 'significant' across all the users. :p


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