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I got the same battery drain problem. My N800 battery was full before I sleep, and it woke me up with empty battery warning less than 6 hour later. I recharged it, and am now seeing the same behavior. The applet always shows CPUFreq(397.46), and temperature is always around 34-35 degree celcius.

I have python-launcher installed.

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a increase in clock will result in a increased voltage, yes? even if the cpu is doing nothing?

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tso, im not sure, but i never disable performance on mine and barring the once in a blue moon random overnight deaths when i come back after sleep+work its still on full battery
if i take it to work and use it its just the same
the killer for my homesystem is network.

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pton,
try setting to performance, and uninstall it.

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The voltage is different between 166 and 400MHz at 1% CPU usage. There is no difference in voltage at 0%.

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New version.22
Update is highly recomended.

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could this be transposed into rm_you and jotts advanced_backlight framework?
ie take a copy of the backlight project, rip out the backlight stuff and repush it.

I'm not sure how 412b is with c, but it would remove this cpu drain issue?
412b, thank you for this project i have been asked for a desktop applet for the cpu many times.

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nice, looks like it fixed the problem.

but as activating the menu will just bump the cpu up to 400, and the content of the menu cant be refreshed in real-time, its content is somewhat useless...

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ok. im just trying to figure out why i sometimes see the device survive overnight, while other times shutting down based on low battery...

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Hmmm... As I wrote in header I DO think it should be in C. But I've got some problems with SDK and no time no dive into it. It won't be hard to port it.

2ALL

There's a big bad bug. CPU works at 400MHz on my n810, when I turn the sound on... It's strange... Damn strange... Some feedback about it on other devices is needed.

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When the menu is popping up it's updated, so some time needed to get battery value, free RAM value, internal temperature and uptime. Real-time updating wasn't planned because of CPU usage, it can be implemented, but IMO it's quite useless. If it's really needed, it can be added in .24/.26 stables.

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Thanks for the heads up. I was losing 3% every five minutes at idle. But I wasn't sure how to read the info presented. But I guess "CPUFreq: 400MHz" suggests I have the same problem as you.

Is there a way to check what the CPU is at without Advanced Battery? Some cli method? I'd be curious to know what it's at with Advanced Battery disabled.

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Just installed HomeCPUSpeed

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Yep. Just run
cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq

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xterm gave output: 165000.

Can I assume this is less than when Advanced Battery reports 400MHz?

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Nope. Advanced Power reads its frequency from that file. If you choose (with sound off) e.g. powersave governor in AP and wait a while it gonna show 165MHz.

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So, AP is set to "On Demand" and reads "CPUFreq: 400Mhz". But cli method outputs 165000.

I've tried it three times. Same divergent results.

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But, you're right, if I change to powersave, both say 165000. Why is this?

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lm2, running ondemand will speed the cpu up to 400 as demand increases over some present %age.

running a python GUI app tiself may trigger the increase and push cpu to 400mhz for reading the value.

using the command line is typically a LOT less strain on the system so the cpu will sit idle and be on slowest speed.

powersave should show 165 all the time, on demand should be variable, perforance should show 400 all the time.

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Thanks. Which setting does the tablet use default out of the box. I had assumed it was Ondemand, simply because qole's turbo debian gives two options: ondemand and performance.

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When I try to install 0.2.22 via the application manager, I get an error: Applications packages missing: python2.5-pgame. I'm running Nokia-N810-23-14 2.6.21-omap1 #2 Tue Sep 2 10:13:14. Where can I find this?

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All I can say is F**K...
It's not an Advanced Power bug as far as I got and I got even too deep...
With AP not installed/turned off my CPU freq is 400MHz if sound is on...
If sound is off everything is ok...

I think it's to be submitted to Bugzilla as addition to bug #2602. But still feedback needed, 'cause it can be a 3rd party app issue.

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Missing letter in dependencies? No reports about it... Or it's python2.5-pygame?

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Sorry, my typo. It says that pygame is missing. I can't install.

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Mmm... Nowadays it's a dependency of python2.5-runtime.
So it should be in extras (or -devel) in your case... But I'm not sure.
I'll update the .deb in couple of minutes, with no dependency on it.

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i have sound on all the time, and i dont recall ever seeing the cpu get stuck based on that...

ah, played around a bit and see now.

with sound of and ondemand as the governor, the cpu do not clock up when screen is poked or some other sound is played.

same effect can be observed if one turn of the touchscreen sound in control panel.

i hate to say this but i find homecpuspeed more useful as it will update the speed ever so often.

as long as pybattery only grabs cpu speed on menu opening, and it makes the cpu clock up, it will nearly always report max cpu...

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Same here. The problem only develop for me with the installation of Pybattery and stop with the removal of Pybattery (N800 ver 4.200836-5).

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This is a great app! I have a suggestion. Could you add "Offline Mode" under Power Managment? I find it annoying to have to press the top button to go offline.

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Is it possible to make this app load into the system tray of another window manager? There's no good Internet Tablet battery applets for any of the other available window managers. I would specifically be interested in tweaking this to run in the system tray of LXDE.

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The main target right now is to solve battery drain issue. Right after that I'll take a look at the switching to Offline Mode.

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When you do integrate it, here's the commands to save time :) :

Normal Mode:
Flight mode:

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Well, there is no big problem in that. If you look into source, there are 2 classes. DBusMonitor is the class that gets and sets all the values and informs about events, so the main limitation is using of PyGTK and Hildon-specific objects. In other words: all you need to make it work in other manager is to replace the UI related stuff. And of course you need python support.

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Thanks. In fact all I needed is "/com/nokia/mce/signal" and "com.nokia.mce.signal.sig_device_mode_ind string" ;)

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412b, take your time :)
you may be bombarded with requests but thats because everybody sees great value in what you have started.

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Well, you can use hildon UI stuff in alternate desktops, but you need to be able to start up the applet independently of Hildon-Desktop and the icon needs to show up in the systray... I'll see if I can start this applet up without Hildon Desktop running...

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OK, now that I have a little more time to go over this in detail. . . .

The UI needs some TLC. The presentation as it stands is a little stark and cluttered. Certain information should disappear (Version), other information needs to be adjusted ("pretty print" for the cpufreq settings—Apple calls this "Processor Performance" perhaps just "Mode" will do) , and some additional information might be added (voltage, mAh, anything else useful you can get out of retu).

I have some ideas floating around in my head if you'd like to see some mockups. ;)

Yes, definitely. Be worried when you don't get any response, not when you get a lot of them. ;)

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Hi, version 0.22 seems to have fixed my battery drain problem. I am not seeing any difference compared to before installation :) Thank you, 412b ;)

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I can second that - v.22 is working perfectly wrt battery
drain.

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either i was not paying attention, or pybattery dont know how to warn about anything but imminent shotdown from lack of battery.

im used to having small warning sounds from the tablet when the battery slips into something like 25% or lower.

but today all i got was the sound for when the battery is close to 0% (the menu showed 0,3%), and the icon was red.

btw, i found a interesting message when i hooked the tablet up to a usb charging cable the other day, "device not usb cable compatible" or something like that.

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If you experiencing problems with enabled sound (CPU frequency is constantly max, 400MHz for me), just disable screen tapping sound. I'm still digging it, so reenabling can be possible, if the solution will be found...



It warns you... It's just you the one not paying attention to it ;)
When battery level is less, then 12,5% the icon is partly red and notification sound is played.
When battery level is less, then 5% the icon is totaly red, notification sound is played and information banner is shown.
I can not add there an orchestra, or Big Ben, or a canon :)

Not mine :)
Ask the Nokia's guys :)