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Thanks - worked perfectly.
I didn't have any ? in my settings dialog.
Then found the fix a page or so back so now I have help.
Thanks again.

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OpenMoko has hardware accelerated 2D/3D rendering because they do use the PowerVR. And the effect, when it works, makes sense: it tells the user he/she cannot scroll further.

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It seems I am unable to use the d-pad to scroll, so that needs work. Also, the kinetic scrolling seems mighty slow and unresponsive--quite unlike the kinetic in Tear, or even mytube. Those are some reasons why I am still using tear as viewer, despite still needing resolution on this issue.

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Do you use a different language than en_US on your tablet? If so, that may be the reason.

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I added it to the list.

I think Tear uses its own kinetic scrolling implementation, and MyTube uses the other kinetic module I linked to earlier. The QCV's kinetic scrolling seems OK to me, are you sure something isn't sucking cpu cycles on your device or you have lots of apps open?

I think bundyo posted the command:

Or does that not work?

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that worked, thanks. i thought bundyo was saying that that would work only fromm cli.

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Quick Clip's settings fields are like a non-interactive CLI -- pretty much anything that works from the terminal should work from there. :)

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I suggest putting an announcement of, and specified link to, version 0.3 into your first post on this thread.

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Yes, thanks, I forgot to do that! Done.

BTW, last night I requested an invitation to upload to Extras, so once I'm approved, I'll upload this version to Extras.

New/Test versions from here on out will be first posted here as a .deb to make sure everything is working, then will be pushed to Extras. :)

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change font size and edit colour underline will be nice, also viewing the text it will be nice to implement a return text entry instead of using the horizontal scrollbar to scroll the long list of text, if it does not give you more unnecessary task, the current state is awesome and thanks for this app, i was having hard time using it but since version 3 i can fully take advantage of the new features.

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You can change the font-size via either the +/- toolbar buttons or the change font dialog. I will also be mapping the +/- hardware keys to this action.

As for "edit color underline", I'm not sure what you mean. Text color?

I'm glad you like 0.3.0, but please elaborate on the return text entry idea, I'm not sure what you mean!

Thanks.

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The return feature in text editing allows you to fit the text into the window instead of a long line which requires a scrollbar to navigate from one to the other, forgot the exact term for that, like fit to width
text colour simply be able the change the colour

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The builtin viewer should Word Wrap text automatically.

I may look into adding that in the future; no promises, though.

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Thanks yes word wrap i was searching for that, the text colour is not urgent, i am using leafpad to view so word wrap doesn't work that is why i don't see it will change back.

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Brent, great job on 0.3! I like the design choices you make so well that I hope Nokia hires you to make the final decisions on the next Tablet UI! You managed to keep everything good about such a useful program and add new, good elements without messifying or detracting from what you had already done.

First off, I love the select-vs.-scroll toggle button on the bottom left. (I wish the Notes app and MicroB had that.)

[In GTK, is it impossible to scroll from within the text (as opposed to with the scroll bar)? Scrolling without the scroll bar can be done in MicroB, even though there is no kinetic scrolling. It's not important, but it would be a nice option (so long as the select-vs-scroll toggle worked in GTK like it does in kinetic).]

Also, lm2 commented that QC Viewer didn't do kinetic scroll like Tear. I actually prefer the way your kinetic scroll works (at least for Quick Clip Viewer). Tear's seems faster, but it goes into "blur mode," which makes continuous reading more difficult. The way your scrolling works, the text remains readable while in motion. Excellent.

D-pad scrolling would be nice, as you've said.

Since you already have the font size button icons on the bottom, I don't see the point in adding that functionality to the hardware buttons. (Then again, it wouldn't hurt anything, either.)

It seems to me, though, that your work on the viewer screams for it to be more than a viewer -- that is, it seems to me that you might as well add a Paste icon button to go with the Copy button; and, as long as you're at it, the ability to call up the virtual keyboard and enter text. I wouldn't want that if you didn't have the select/scroll toggle, but since you do ...

I haven't thought about this much, but some way to export might be nice. And the very simplest way to accomplish that would be to have a Select All capability, whether from an icon button or from a dropdown menu. Then, since it's all just text, Select All followed by Copy would allow for a form of export. (Select All would be a lot easier than manually selecting everything if the file is large.)

Finally, you've said you're aiming for a Find function, to which I say Hallelujah! Ideally, Find would be able to work, at user's choice, in a single QC file or across all the QC files; would highlight the character string each time it finds it; would be case-independent (or the user could at least choose that); and could be user-set for Whole-Word-Only or not.

BTW, one of the things I really like about the Viewer is that I use it to read things that MicroB and Tear can't fit in a page-width. I used to copy and paste the text into the Notes app and read it there; but with the ability to turn off the Select function, I prefer to do it in QC Viewer. I keep a QC "Temp Reader" file that I use for that purpose; when I'm done reading the article, I just delete everything; and the Temp Reader file is readily available in the Status Bar to be used again.

Thanks.

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I'm glad you like it! Sometimes it can be a balance between features & simplicity, and I try to pay attention to both.

One thing that always drove me crazy about trying to read a text file on the tablet is that the OSK always seems to come up when it is absolutely unwanted. With QCV, I disabled that.

Another thing that always bothered me was the scroll vs. selection line that most application try to "understand". Like in MicroB, I often find myself scrolling the page when I try to select something and vise-versa. This is when a simple toggle-button is the best, easiest, and most end-user-friendly solution.

I'm not aware of any GTK widget that does that...again I haven't looked, but am not optimistic.

Great!

It will be implemented in the next release.

I find myself clicking the +/- hardware buttons over and over again but nothing happens...need to fix, need to fix ;)

I may create a Quick Clip Editor, but that would be much later on once QCV is more complete.

Select-all will be implemented in the next version.

I'm not sure that find could be used to search across all files, that would be difficult. As for the other options, I'll look into it. Hopefully I can find a few good examples.

Your welcome!

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another option is whats found in tear, and webkit-eal, holding down the menu key and dragging the selection area. but that only really works for the N800 i guess.

still, i kinda like the selection switcher.

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I may create a Quick Clip Editor, but that would be much later on once QCV is more complete.

If version 0.3 is not complete then hats down, in fact i want to use this app for cutting and pasting large pages from the web so that i can read later, also to be somewhat a replacement for Doc reader exactly as Evernote does, some ideas can be borrowed from them http://evernote.com/.

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Just as a note, I uploaded Quick Clip to extras-devel yesterday, and, if you have that repository installed on your device, should appear in your installable applications list. I'm going to make a few small changes then push it to Extras. Bleeding edge versions will be available on extras-devel from now on. :)

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I have one suggestion to make, I know I can change where quickclip files are stored myself. But wouldn't it be better to store it in /home/user/MyDocs/.documents/quickclip so that way it's easier for people to email it out. Say email their quickclip notes to Evernote?

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The problem is that some people get rid of their .documents/ folder, and I really do not want to start messing with the user's "play-pen".

I would suggest that for people who want to use their clippings outside of Quick Clip, they should change their path.

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One more d-pad request. Different people have different preferences, but I prefer page-by-page scrolling instead of line by line. (I've implemented this in microb using instructions found here.) So might we have two choices in the preferences?

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A minor suggestion: In QC Viewer, the name of the program plus the path to the file take up so much space that the title bar never quite shows the name of the particular file. Maybe you could abbreviate "Quick Clip Viewer" to "QCV" in the title bar and/or eliminate the path.

Also, I'm sure you'd do it if you could, but it would be nice if Quick Clip Viewer loaded faster.

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I'll think about it. I can probably drop Quick Clip Viewer, but the path is trickier.

Python sucks the memory down pretty good. I know there is like a Python-Loaded program out there that is supposed to speed it up, but there is nothing I can do on my end (QCV is very simple, only ~200 lines).

It also helps to have swap enabled.

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I just promoted Quick Clip to Maemo-Extras; you all should see it as updatable or installable (if you don't have it installed).

The version is 0.3.1 now, the new release doesn't change anything concerning the program, but more to do with packaging (nicer name in Application manager, reboot warning, etc.).

Enjoy.

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Hmm, do you know if there's anyway to get the default file manager to recognize folders with a . in them? If not I guess I'll just change the folder.

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I was thinking over the weekend about the probably little-noticed del.icio.us status bar plugin (see also post #8 in that thread). I really like this little thing. But it lacks a crucial element: you can't save text to delicious, just the name at the top of a webpage (e.g, for this page this would be, "Quick Clip 0.2 Released! - Page 7...") and the url of the page (which you highlight before tapping the plugin).

Conversely, the thing I miss the most with QC is the ability to stamp clipped text with the url associated with the page whose text I'm saving.

Now, I'm not saying that QC should be integrated with the delicious plugin (although that, if it could be done, would be KILLER!). I'm just wondering if there is any transparent coding in the delicious plugin that could help you add a url stamp to text clipped from a website. Clearly, this would probably only work for microb, as I think I tried the delicious plugin with tear and it didn't work. (It saved the highlighted url, but failed to rip the page's title.)

Anyway, just some random thoughts about possible ways of expanding QC's functionality.

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What you're describing is a lot like Tomfox, a Firefox add-on for Tomboy.

"Tomfox is a simple Add-on to Firefox (for Linux only), that allows users of Firefox to select text from a web page, right click to bring up a contextual menu, and with one more click, create a new Tomboy note. This note, once created, will have the name of the web page as the note name, will include a link back to the page at the end of the text, and will include all the text you had highlighted."

http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...for_linux.html


While we don't have Tomfox for the Tablet, we have Quick Clip and proto-Conboy, which is to be Tomboy for Tablets.

http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...d.php?p=276087

So maybe someday ...

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Yes, but I was suggesting something less ambitions: I was pointing to an already existing status bar plugin that rips TWO elements of a webpage and puts them in one location. Right now I'll be happy of Quick Clip could clip BOTH highlighted text AND a URL stamp.

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To address this, yes, tear's kinetic is faster and less suitable for continuous reading-while-scrolling. But QC's scrolling, while suitable for reading, is horrendously slow for navigating through past clips to find the one you want to read. Whenever I need to read a clip from, say, a week ago, I have to use the notes editor instead of the built-in viewer, because the viewer is so slow. But I don't want to edit, I want to VIEW the old clip! ;)

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Yes, I also think that what you're describing would be great.

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I looked briefly at the code, but my C skills are pretty weak (nonexistent, actually), and wasn't able to glean much. Is it correct that you highlight the url, and it automatically rips the page title?

Well, the gtk_application_name is set to the page title (just prefixed with "Web - "), and that is probably attainable somehow. On the other hand, the current page url is probably not broadcast by Microb (that's a guess!) so doing as you suggest is probably impossible, or at least above my abilities.

I think the best solution is probably to just clip in the url separately.

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If you hold down the page after "flicking" it, the page will keep scrolling at maximum speed (which is pretty fast).

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That's better, but still not fast enough for my tastes. :)

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Yup, that's right. I thought there might be a problem, given that you have to highlight the url.

I did notice the other day, however, that it was possible to highlight text on a page in microb AND tap the url field after and have the url highlighted AS WELL.

When you do that, though, it looks like the highlighted url is the only "actively" highlighted text. And this is how QC treats it, since if you use QC to clip highlighted, all that you get is the url.

Your suggestion to separately highlight the url may have to do, alas.

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I just went and found a random wikipedia article that was really long (52,000 characters) and clipped the whole thing into QC, and opened it in the viewer. It took 22 seconds to scroll from top to bottom holding the page down. I opened the same file in Tear, not the webpage but the actual clipped .txt file, and it took well over a minute to scroll from top to bottom (because I had to keep flicking it).

I know I could've dragged the normal gtk scrollbar in Tear to go anywhere instantly, but you can switch QCV to gtk scrolling too (but it won't do both).

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I'd like to replicate the test. Can you send the wikip link?

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Yes, the OS supports two text selections at once, PRIMARY and SECONDARY. Quick Clip only reads the Primary selection, because what if you have a webpage selected then switch to another application and select something else then clip that selection? I could concatenate the two selections then clip them together, but I think more times than not that wouldn't be the desired effect. So as of now Quick Clip ignores Secondary.

A possibility would be to sense if both primary and secondary were selected the give a prompt: "What do you want to clip? Primary | Secondary | Both".

That's getting fancy, though! ;)

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Perhaps the problem is that tear has both kinetic and gtk and d-pad scrolling at once. Perhaps if QC had all three, the swiftness of the kinetic wouldn't be a big deal. :)

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Sure. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobcat

Just about the longest thing I could find!