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meizirkki 2009-03-30 04:25

Re: Enlightenment (e17) on Ubuntu/Mer
 
You can also click the edit button in the server-list dialog, and enter channels before connecting. Or Just dimply connect and then type "/join #maemo"

damagedspline 2009-04-10 16:07

Re: Enlightenment (e17) on Ubuntu/Mer
 
I would like to report a success story for a n810:
Installed e17 from deb on mer 0.11 - internal card.

I managed to get network-manager alive with cnetworkmanager (command line interface). I didn't install the pixbuf gtk engine due to dependency hell.
The temperature module works, i like alot.

All of the rest is quite pleasing. I stayed with midori that apperantly is not crashing on e17 as in maemo.

4 questions though:
1) How can I remove/resize widgets after adding them to the desktop?
2) Indeed a lot of features are missing, are there packages for complimatory modules I can install? (like On Screen Keyboard....)
3) What is the 4 squares icon in the upper shelf for? could not find it in google...
4) Does anyone familiar with a nice gtk theme with wide scroll bar I can use?

neatojones 2009-04-10 17:20

Re: Enlightenment (e17) on Ubuntu/Mer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by damagedspline (Post 278830)
I would like to report a success story for a n810:
Installed e17 from deb on mer 0.11 - internal card.

I managed to get network-manager alive with cnetworkmanager (command line interface). I didn't install the pixbuf gtk engine due to dependency hell.
The temperature module works, i like alot.

All of the rest is quite pleasing. I stayed with midori that apperantly is not crashing on e17 as in maemo.

4 questions though:
1) How can I remove/resize widgets after adding them to the desktop?
2) Indeed a lot of features are missing, are there packages for complimatory modules I can install? (like On Screen Keyboard....)
3) What is the 4 squares icon in the upper shelf for? could not find it in google...
4) Does anyone familiar with a nice gtk theme with wide scroll bar I can use?

1.) You can click on the desktop or e and you'll pull up the menu, from there, you can click "configuration" then click Modules to change which modules are loaded. Once you have set a module to load you can load that module to the shelf (if it is a widget) by clicking the menu, then clicking "configuration" and then hitting "shelves". (I think). I'm just going by memory at the moment.
2.) If you use the single deb install method, then you will have all of the modules installed. If you would like any other modules, you can build them by running the easy_e17.sh script. But, really, this method should build most of the modules that you're likely to find usable anyway. The deb e17 packages in the Mer repo don't have the modules, because my virtualbox install of Mer died before I got around to making the package and I haven't had time to fix it all yet. I should eventually, but I put this method aside for a while since the other method already works.
3.) Not sure which icon you are speaking about, but it could be the desktop switcher icon. Normally, you'd like to right click to edit shelf settings, but I can't seem to get right click working in Mer (in any window manager). So, you have to edit the shelf like I described above).
4.) If you find such a theme, let me know. Also, you should try the illume module in e17 as it makes it pretty finger friendly on the NIT vs the normal setup. Hopefully, the dependency problems will be resolved soon with the pixmap gtk engine.

Glad to hear you've had a pretty good experience so far.

damagedspline 2009-04-12 19:16

Re: Enlightenment (e17) on Ubuntu/Mer
 
Hi neatojones,

Regarding 1... I was referring to the widgets you add to the desktop. Once added, I found I am unable to resize or move it once it is set in its location. Maybe it is related to the right click being missing...

2) I'm still missing the OSK... A few weeks ago I installed the e17-svn, but I kept getting seg faults. I could not retrace the reason. So I just installed the e17 packages.

3) I was referring to the icon with 4 squares which is in the left in the middle extractable upper shelf in illume. When clicking on it, it sometimes open a shelf at the bottom which have at the middle the same 4 squares icon. Still could not figure out what its for :)

4) I am using illume and pretty much enjoying it. I installed claws-mail epiphany-browser and pidgin which serve most of my needs (except for music and voip). I will report in if I find a nice finger friendly gtk theme.

TIA

neatojones 2009-04-13 03:32

Re: Enlightenment (e17) on Ubuntu/Mer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by damagedspline (Post 279189)
Hi neatojones,

Regarding 1... I was referring to the widgets you add to the desktop. Once added, I found I am unable to resize or move it once it is set in its location. Maybe it is related to the right click being missing...

2) I'm still missing the OSK... A few weeks ago I installed the e17-svn, but I kept getting seg faults. I could not retrace the reason. So I just installed the e17 packages.

3) I was referring to the icon with 4 squares which is in the left in the middle extractable upper shelf in illume. When clicking on it, it sometimes open a shelf at the bottom which have at the middle the same 4 squares icon. Still could not figure out what its for :)

4) I am using illume and pretty much enjoying it. I installed claws-mail epiphany-browser and pidgin which serve most of my needs (except for music and voip). I will report in if I find a nice finger friendly gtk theme.

TIA

1. In illume: To change the size of the top bar's icons you change the scaling. Just look in the configuration part for the scaling module setup. You can also change the icon size of the desktop and hidden icons in another part of the configuration. If you do this, remember that scaling will effect these icons too so, you may need to adjust them after you change the scaling.
2. The seg faults must have been related to the daily svn checkout you had installed (must've been a bug). I've installed it multiple times, usually without problems, but occaisionally running into problems like that..upgrading to a new snapshot usually fixes most things. If you really enjoy e17, I'd try giving the svn install another shot sometime since the results really are the best.
3. That's the window selector. Open a few applications and then click it. You should then be able to select between apps or the desktop.
4. Sounds good. Sound support should be coming to Mer soon, as I understand it...so maybe you'll have that soon.

Stskeeps 2009-04-16 09:28

Re: Enlightenment (e17) on Ubuntu/Mer
 
http://blog.gustavobarbieri.com.br/2...ready-to-rock/

might be a good idea to track.

qole 2009-04-16 19:00

Re: Enlightenment (e17) on Ubuntu/Mer
 
Oh, that IS good news. I like the fact they're moving towards a stable freeze / development cycle. It was weird building the E17 system and having it break in different places from day to day...

FRZ 2009-04-16 19:23

Re: Enlightenment (e17) on Ubuntu/Mer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stskeeps (Post 280042)

Should I wait for a this more stable updated release? Now that the Mer wifi is fix, I was gonna take another test drive installing this app. As anyone tried it in Mer? How does it look?

neatojones 2009-04-16 20:14

Re: Enlightenment (e17) on Ubuntu/Mer
 
I have used E17 in Mer and it does work. The drawback is that many of the tablet optimized apps don't work so well with e17 because the have been hildonized and in doing such, they no longer have menus.

For those interested...I started a maemo garage project for E17 in Mer/Maemo and it has been approved. Hopefully that project and the one Stskeeps linked to above will help us get this organized and working. Also, if you're interested in this, I'd love to get any help I can get with it.

As an aside. The project Stskeeps mentioned above should help us out quite a bit in the long run, but might take a while before it will produce anything usable for us. So, it's still best to stick with the install instructions at the beginning of this thread for now (they take a while to install, but the results are very nice).

FRZ 2009-04-16 20:36

Re: Enlightenment (e17) on Ubuntu/Mer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by neatojones (Post 280189)
I have used E17 in Mer and it does work. The drawback is that many of the tablet optimized apps don't work so well with e17 because the have been hildonized and in doing such, they no longer have menus.

Ok. I will make an attemp and see how that goes and report back later. Thanks

FRZ 2009-04-18 00:45

Re: Enlightenment (e17) on Ubuntu/Mer
 
And I thought today was gonna be my lucky day then I got to this part: $ sudo dpkg -i e17-svn_1.2.3-3_all.deb, and a whole bunch of dependencies rolled up.
e17-svn depends on build-essential, subversion, libtool, gettext, giblib-dev, libimlib2-dev, libltdl3-dev, libpopt-dev, libcurl3-dev | libcurl4-openssl-dev, libbz2-dev, libid3tag0-dev, libpng12-dev, libtiff4-dev, libungif4-dev |libgif-dev, libjpeg62-dev, librsvg2-dev, libssl-dev, libfontconfig1-dev, libxcursor-dev, libgtk1.2-dev, libsqlite3.dev, libxmu-dev, libxrandr-dev, libxdamage-dev, libxcomposite-dev, libtag1-dev, libtagc0-dev, libasound2-dev, libpam0g-dev, libdbus-1-dev.

damagedspline 2009-04-18 18:19

Re: Enlightenment (e17) on Ubuntu/Mer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FRZ (Post 280521)
And I thought today was gonna be my lucky day then I got to this part: $ sudo dpkg -i e17-svn_1.2.3-3_all.deb, and a whole bunch of dependencies rolled up.
e17-svn depends on build-essential, subversion, libtool, gettext, giblib-dev, libimlib2-dev, libltdl3-dev, libpopt-dev, libcurl3-dev | libcurl4-openssl-dev, libbz2-dev, libid3tag0-dev, libpng12-dev, libtiff4-dev, libungif4-dev |libgif-dev, libjpeg62-dev, librsvg2-dev, libssl-dev, libfontconfig1-dev, libxcursor-dev, libgtk1.2-dev, libsqlite3.dev, libxmu-dev, libxrandr-dev, libxdamage-dev, libxcomposite-dev, libtag1-dev, libtagc0-dev, libasound2-dev, libpam0g-dev, libdbus-1-dev.

running: 'apt-get -f install' as root will install all dependencies and will finish e17-svn installation

FRZ 2009-04-19 00:21

Re: Enlightenment (e17) on Ubuntu/Mer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by damagedspline (Post 280660)
running: 'apt-get -f install' as root will install all dependencies and will finish e17-svn installation

Yep, I was coming in here to say that that is what I had to do and did. Man, was that a long download. So now for the rest of the setup. I am at the gtk theme part. [quote]You'll want to set up gtk so your programs that use gtk will look good. Download gtk and icon themes and extract them to the .themes and .icons folders in your home directory.
create a file called .gtkrc in your home directory and put this in it: [\quote]Where do I get those? That wasn't mentioned there and i tried apt-get install gtk and that didn't work.

neatojones 2009-04-19 03:56

Re: Enlightenment (e17) on Ubuntu/Mer
 
Running this command should get everything you need for the gtk theme: $sudo apt-get install gtk2-engines-pixbuf

The icon and gtk themes can be downloaded from www.gnome-look.org Just go there and do a search for the theme names. If that doesn't work, let me know and I'll try doing a search for them.

One note though: I've heard that some people are having dependency problems with the gtk2-engines-pixbuf install. Hopefully, Mer will update it's libgtk2.0-0 packages soon to match those of ubuntu.

As an alternative, you could specify whatever theme Mer is using in hildon in the gtkrc file. This wouldn't give as consistent of a look as the B_and_W theme, but it would still look better than not specifying any gtk theme.

qole 2009-04-19 04:01

Re: Enlightenment (e17) on Ubuntu/Mer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by neatojones (Post 280717)
As an alternative, you could specify whatever theme Mer is using in hildon in the gtkrc file. This wouldn't give as consistent of a look as the B_and_W theme, but it would still look better than not specifying any gtk theme.

In my experience, you need two things:

In your ~/.gtkrc-2.0 file, put the following line:

Code:

include "/usr/share/themes/liberty/gtk-2.0/gtkrc"
And you need to make sure that you start the sapwood-server with the following command line (before starting E17):

Code:

/usr/lib/sapwood/sapwood-server &

x-demon 2009-05-02 09:16

Re: Enlightenment (e17) on Ubuntu/Mer
 
how long it can compile? O_o i think, about ten hours?

x-demon 2009-05-02 17:16

Re: Enlightenment (e17) on Ubuntu/Mer
 
how i can get onscreen keyboard?

neatojones 2009-05-03 21:18

Re: Enlightenment (e17) on Ubuntu/Mer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by x-demon (Post 283997)
how i can get onscreen keyboard?

If you have a N810:
Then, in the terminal type:
mkdir ~/.e/e/keyboards
Then type:
$ nano ~/.e/e/keyboards/ignore_built_in_keyboards
inside this file type
/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/*
Then hit "Ctrl & x" at the same time.
Then hit "y"
Then "enter"

You can then open the onscreen keyboard by clicking on the top bar and pressing the little icon in the top right hand corner of that bar.

neatojones 2009-05-03 21:20

Re: Enlightenment (e17) on Ubuntu/Mer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by x-demon (Post 283880)
how long it can compile? O_o i think, about ten hours?

Yeah, it takes quite a while to compile. I recommend letting it go overnight.

neatojones 2009-05-11 18:03

Re: Enlightenment (e17) on Ubuntu/Mer
 
Good news everyone: Meizirkki is in the process of updating the debs for e17. This should provide for a faster, easier, cleaner install of e17 in Mer.

I'll update the install instructions when the packages are tested and working.

meizirkki 2009-05-13 19:07

Re: Enlightenment (e17) on Ubuntu/Mer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by neatojones (Post 286538)
Good news everyone: Meizirkki is in the process of updating the debs for e17. This should provide for a faster, easier, cleaner install of e17 in Mer.

I'll update the install instructions when the packages are tested and working.

Meizirkki is in process of cp -r:ing sources from http://packages.enlightenment.org/ubuntu to OBS arm build :D

Only few packages needed modifications. Only few still fails. It's all there now exept canola-related stuff, emodules-extra, emphasis (libmpd-dev is available in ubuntu repo, but OBS still won't start the build) exalt (weird issue, wpasupplicant is installed but configure cannot find it :( So, no WLAN module yet)

Repo:

deb http://download.opensuse.org/reposit...l_Ubuntu_9.04/ /

jpt000 2009-05-22 14:10

Re: Enlightenment (e17) on Ubuntu/Mer
 
Just installed e17 on mer 0.13 through Meizirkki's repo but now I'm trying to install the gtk2-engines-pixbuf but I'm getting
gtk2-engines-pixbuf: Depends: libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.19.7) but .18.1-1maemo2mer2 is to be installed
Depends: libgtk2.0-0 (= 2.16.1-0ubuntu2) but 2:2.12.12-1maemo13mer9 is to be installed
E: Broken packages
Any idea how to get arround this?
Thanks!

meizirkki 2009-05-22 15:30

Re: Enlightenment (e17) on Ubuntu/Mer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jpt000 (Post 289252)
Just installed e17 on mer 0.13 through Meizirkki's repo but now I'm trying to install the gtk2-engines-pixbuf but I'm getting
gtk2-engines-pixbuf: Depends: libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.19.7) but .18.1-1maemo2mer2 is to be installed
Depends: libgtk2.0-0 (= 2.16.1-0ubuntu2) but 2:2.12.12-1maemo13mer9 is to be installed
E: Broken packages
Any idea how to get arround this?
Thanks!

You don't need the pixbuf engine, Mer has sapwood-server.

goto terminal and type the following to set up your gtk-theme

Code:

nano .gtkrc-2.0
put this in the file:

Code:

include "/usr/share/themes/liberty-mer/gtk-2.0/gtkrc"
include "/usr/share/themes/liberty-mer/gtk-2.0/gtkrc.maemo_af_desktop"

and put following inside .Xsession file (in your home dir)

Code:

/usr/lib/sapwood/sapwood-server &
/usr/bin/enlightenment_start


meizirkki 2010-03-07 11:06

Re: Enlightenment (e17) on Ubuntu/Mer
 
Latest e17 .deb packages now at OBS built for Mer (Ubuntu 9.04). All core packages built well, some extra packages failed or cannot build because of missing depends.

Should install ok on Mer. I wonder if they could also work on pure Maemo :D ?

libevas-svn-05 depends on Maemo version of gtk, and needs --force-depends on pure Ubuntu (and ofc editing dpkg status), but after that it works well. (Repo for pure Ubuntu is also up, but still building..)

I previously destroyed my Touch Books keyboard so Illume (with it's keyboard) became my favorite UI :) (Still missing Mer though :D )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgFSDLunflk


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