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TA-t3 2009-03-11 10:14

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.6 - SQLite and APRS
 
It was always a problem that it would block after just a few maps, but I'm sorry to see the sat maps go. They were extremely useful in Africa in places where google street maps were just plain wrong and virtual earth didn't have the resolution.

munky261 2009-03-11 10:19

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.6 - SQLite and APRS
 
Does anyone know why the layer for US weather radar wouldnt be working? I copy and pasted the url of another maemo mapper thread, can anyone else confirm this or tell me what I might be doing wrong?

bongo 2009-03-11 12:46

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.6 - SQLite and APRS
 
When I download 20 mb of maps I get a 70 mb database file (osm).
Is it possible to calculate the new database size before downloading?

st5150 2009-03-11 19:13

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.6 - SQLite and APRS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by branchingfactor (Post 270030)
I successfully downloaded the update via the Application Manager; thank you!

The APRS functionality looks very interesting but I could not get it working. Can you or Rob Williams please provide a basic HOWTO?

I'm having the same problem. Can't seem to connect to the server. I may have found a bug as well. After starting and closing the app, a random server port number was entered in place of what I had typed in. It was also higher than the maximum port number allowed.

Please post up your settings if you got this new feature working.

EDIT: confirming the APRS server port bug. Started the program and what I believe was port 1055 was changed to port 4294967138.

camel 2009-03-11 20:07

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.6 - SQLite and APRS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by branchingfactor (Post 270030)
The APRS functionality looks very interesting but I could not get it working. Can you or Rob Williams please provide a basic HOWTO?

I have created a basic overview of how to use the APRS functionality here. I will try to add more detail at some point...

branchingfactor 2009-03-12 08:05

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.6 - SQLite and APRS
 
Thank you for the basic overview!

While playing around with the APRS functionality, I noticed a possible bug.

When I close down Maemo Mapper and then reopen it, the value in the Port field is always changed to 4294962716 and the value in the Enable Range field is always changed to 0. Any entries I made in the Internet 2 Beacon Interval or the TNC 2 Beacon Interval are erased.

camel 2009-03-12 08:17

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.6 - SQLite and APRS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by st5150 (Post 270860)
confirming the APRS server port bug. Started the program and what I believe was port 1055 was changed to port 4294967138.

I have found the problem in the code and corrected it. Because of this bug you will be unable to set the following APRS settings:
  • Port
  • Range
  • Internet Beacon Interval
  • TNC Beacon Interval

When the next release is available you should be able to change these.

YoDude 2009-03-13 14:38

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.6 - SQLite and APRS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gnuite (Post 270000)
Maemo Mapper v2.6 ... There is no utility to convert GDBM map repositories to SQLite3 map repositories...



Let me know if you have any problems with the release. Thanks!

Greetings gnuite and thank you for the continued support and improvements. :)

Do you know of any utility that can convert the original M/Mapper tile format to an SQLite 3 file?

zman 2009-03-14 16:29

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.6 - SQLite and APRS
 
I noticed the map downloading speed when using sqlite is much slower than that when using db. It's almost unbearably slow. So I'm still stuck with db format.

YoDude 2009-03-14 19:57

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.6 - SQLite and APRS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zman (Post 271646)
I noticed the map downloading speed when using sqlite is much slower than that when using db. It's almost unbearably slow. So I'm still stuck with db format.

Me, not so much. SQLite corrects one of what for me was a limitation to M/M....

The ability to have the USA saved @ large numbers (down to 12 zoom in 2's) for reference, an additional home field area in greater detail (about a day driving trip in any direction) down to zoom level 4 in 2's, plus the ability of adding additional "home fields" when on business trips or vacations.

The DB format would allow the country wide and home field maps but if you needed to add another area in greater detail it would run smack into the 2 GB barrier. Plus you wouldn't know what got added before the download was aborted.

Home field for me would be say 4 parallel by 3 meridian lines or 207 miles by 276 miles, about 57,000 square.

BTW, in the time it took me to post this I was able to download most of North America to SQLite @ 12 zoom. Not too bad... but I type pretty dang slow and my spelling skills suck. :)

bac522 2009-03-15 01:46

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.6 - SQLite and APRS
 
Hmmmm....I'm using the 770 and I can no longer tap, hold and place route points on a map. Instead it just centers the map where I tap and hold. I've looked everywhere thinking a setting needs to be set, but no luck. Was this feature removed or am I missing something?

gnuite 2009-03-15 02:40

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.6 - SQLite and APRS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bac522 (Post 271757)
Hmmmm....I'm using the 770 and I can no longer tap, hold and place route points on a map. Instead it just centers the map where I tap and hold. I've looked everywhere thinking a setting needs to be set, but no luck. Was this feature removed or am I missing something?

No, the tap-and-hold menu hasn't been removed, and it isn't controlled by a setting. It should always be enabled.

Is anyone else having this issue?

gnuite 2009-03-15 02:41

Maemo Mapper v2.6.2 Release
 
Maemo Mapper v2.6.2 has been released with some fixes to APRS. If you have been having issues with APRS, please update to v2.6.2 and try again.

OpnSrcAddict 2009-03-15 05:28

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.6 - SQLite and APRS
 
Thanks for the awesome app! Unfortunately, since the update when I download routes the lines that normally overlay the streets don't appear. The prompts that tell the next turn to take seem to show up, but the route doesn't appear. Any ideas on what is going on?

tso 2009-03-15 06:56

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.6 - SQLite and APRS
 
are you sure that route display is turned on?

st5150 2009-03-15 07:26

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.6.2 Release
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gnuite (Post 271764)
Maemo Mapper v2.6.2 has been released with some fixes to APRS. If you have been having issues with APRS, please update to v2.6.2 and try again.

Confirming the fixes are working, but this bug still exists on the 810 https://garage.maemo.org/tracker/ind...id=29&atid=185 Vote for it everyone! Maemo Mapper keeps getting better and better. Thanks to everyone that has contributed to this project.

gnuite 2009-03-15 10:33

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.6 - SQLite and APRS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OpnSrcAddict (Post 271788)
Thanks for the awesome app! Unfortunately, since the update when I download routes the lines that normally overlay the streets don't appear. The prompts that tell the next turn to take seem to show up, but the route doesn't appear. Any ideas on what is going on?

A guess: check the "View | Show" menu and make sure that "Routes" and/or "Track" is checked.

gnuite 2009-03-15 10:47

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.6.2 Release
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by st5150 (Post 271795)
Confirming the fixes are working, but this bug still exists on the 810 https://garage.maemo.org/tracker/ind...id=29&atid=185 Vote for it everyone! Maemo Mapper keeps getting better and better. Thanks to everyone that has contributed to this project.

Are you seeing the same issue as in that bug? Because the patch mentioned in that bug has been in Maemo Mapper since v2.4.1. Are there any differences between your situation and the situation described in the bug, which might help me better diagnose your particular problem?

tobiasj 2009-03-15 14:26

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.6 - SQLite and APRS
 
I would also like to confirm the APRS fixes working. I was able to connect to and receive stations and messages from the APRS servers. All I have to do now is drive somewhere to make sure that it tx's to the servers properly as I move around.

Thanks for the fix, Maemo Mapper is now one of those MUST HAVE apps for me...

now, where is that Bluetooth TNC...


-John

st5150 2009-03-15 19:33

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.6.2 Release
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gnuite (Post 271810)
Are you seeing the same issue as in that bug? Because the patch mentioned in that bug has been in Maemo Mapper since v2.4.1. Are there any differences between your situation and the situation described in the bug, which might help me better diagnose your particular problem?

Yes, the only way I can get the internal N810 GPS to be recognised is to select the bluetooth GPS option,and leave its setting field blank. There are several of us having this problem: http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ad.php?t=27105. If I remember right, v2.4.1 is about when this problem started for me.


tobaisj, why not use a bluetooth to serial adapter? This add-on has a lot of potential. It would be nice if an alarm goes off when a message is sent directed towards you. It would also be nice to have the ability to send messages to other stations.

gnuite 2009-03-15 20:14

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.6.2 Release
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by st5150 (Post 271889)
Yes, the only way I can get the internal N810 GPS to be recognised is to select the bluetooth GPS option,and leave its setting field blank. There are several of us having this problem: http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ad.php?t=27105. If I remember right, v2.4.1 is about when this problem started for me.

Selecting "Bluetooth GPS" and leaving the field blank is correct behavior. In fact, from the perspective of the backing libgpsmgr API, confusingly, that is exactly what should be done for the N810. It's counter-intuitive, yeah, but it shouldn't keep you from being able to use the Maemo Mapper on your N810.

In fact, the built-in help file (also available online) mentions this explicitly:

Quote:

Note: If you are using Maemo Mapper on a device with an internal GPS receiver, then you should probably use the "Bluetooth" receiver type and leave the field empty.
This really is a by-product of the API provided by libgpsmgr/libgpsbt, the GPS API provided by Maemo. For some strange reason, to use the internal GPS, Maemo Mapper literally has to provide an empty string to libgpsbt. I should probably change the UI to reflect that, or at least remove "/dev/pgps" as the default.

st5150 2009-03-15 22:30

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.6 - SQLite and APRS
 
Thanks for the clarification and all your hard work gnuite!

OpnSrcAddict 2009-03-16 00:43

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.6 - SQLite and APRS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tso (Post 271791)
are you sure that route display is turned on?

Quote:

Originally Posted by gnuite (Post 271809)
A guess: check the "View | Show" menu and make sure that "Routes" and/or "Track" is checked.

Yup, that was it, thanks! Funny that it got turned off after the update... I always miss the obvious things :rolleyes:

tso 2009-03-16 07:35

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.6 - SQLite and APRS
 
iirc, the "back" is by default set to toggle tracks, and i suspect that includes routes.

its easy to bump it and miss the message. and then the only real way to tell that its off is by there being no scale indicator at the bottom of the screen (next to the zoom number).

tobiasj 2009-03-16 17:31

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.6.2 Release
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by st5150 (Post 271889)
tobaisj, why not use a bluetooth to serial adapter? This add-on has a lot of potential. It would be nice if an alarm goes off when a message is sent directed towards you. It would also be nice to have the ability to send messages to other stations.

You are correct, it would be especially if it happened to work with my Kenwood D7g, however from what I have been able to find on TNC use with the NIT (which as I am sure you know, isnt exactly the most popular search on google) serial ports don't work reliably and one of the most relaible so far has been a particular bluetooth TNC (which I can not find my link to at the moment)

I was certainly looking into a bluetooth serial port before to use when I have to configure switches already deployed in closets around (that way I would have to actually stand in the hot closet I could sit outside it and work.) But I couldn't find anyone who said 'This BT serial port works without having to run a custom compiled kernel with all these mods inserted...' etc.. I would much rather keep my N810 as is and find another solution.

Course I also want a BT OBDII adapter to use with carman but between that, the serial port, and the TNC I would be looking at $1000.00 in bluetooth accessories..

I don't know where I will end up with this, probably start with the serial port and go from there, as it would be a multitasker.


-John

st5150 2009-03-16 19:48

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.6 - SQLite and APRS
 
I've had good luck with a prolific USB to serial (wired) adapter, interfacing my NIT to a D7.

Its also worth noting, if someone has the skillset and time, a software TNC can be ported for NITs: http://www.baycom.org/~tom/ham/soundmodem/ Of course a USB to serial adapter will still be needed for PTT.

Lord Raiden 2009-03-16 21:36

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.6 - SQLite and APRS
 
I know I'm stepping in on this late, but has anyone come up with a tool to create the database for Maemo Mapper on another computer? I'd love to be able to build a map database on another machine and import it to my tablet. It'd make things a lot nicer.

jpramlak 2009-03-16 22:24

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.6 - SQLite and APRS
 
In this post, gnuite says that Winmapper should work now.

tobiasj 2009-03-16 23:13

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.6 - SQLite and APRS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by st5150 (Post 272112)
I've had good luck with a prolific USB to serial (wired) adapter, interfacing my NIT to a D7.

Its also worth noting, if someone has the skillset and time, a software TNC can be ported for NITs: http://www.baycom.org/~tom/ham/soundmodem/ Of course a USB to serial adapter will still be needed for PTT.

I have heard that, but for me bluetooth is the way to go. I want to mount the radio in the trunk and leave the NIT in its mount on my dash.

I will look into soundmodem and if its possible I will try to port it and see what happens...

-John

gnuite 2009-03-17 04:31

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.6 - SQLite and APRS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jpramlak (Post 272176)
In this post, gnuite says that Winmapper should work now.

Well, I might have been unclear. I said that this new version should fix the cross-platform limitations of GDBM that were making it impossible to fix Winmapper. So, theoretically, Winmapper is fixable, but I don't know if anyone has fixed it (i.e. changed it to write to a database instead of a directory structure), yet.

Lord Raiden 2009-03-17 11:26

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.6 - SQLite and APRS
 
Well, that sounds like a project for someone interested in doing some tinkering. :D Since he left the source code for others to use if they wanted to, I think it's ample opportunity to do some hacking to make it do everything we want. It also may not hurt to hack the program to run on Linux too, since some of us are of the penguin persuasion. ;) Really it's not that big a deal to have to fire up VB or Wine to use this, but if we can run a native Linux version of it, why bother? :D

munky261 2009-03-18 02:19

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.6 - SQLite and APRS
 
One minor question, im not sure if this function exists, but when you type and address when you tap goto in the view menu is it possible for it to put a dot or something on the screen so you know exactly where it is?

ioan 2009-03-18 03:05

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.6 - SQLite and APRS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gnuite (Post 272230)
Well, I might have been unclear. I said that this new version should fix the cross-platform limitations of GDBM that were making it impossible to fix Winmapper. So, theoretically, Winmapper is fixable, but I don't know if anyone has fixed it (i.e. changed it to write to a database instead of a directory structure), yet.

I'll fix it when I have some time, probably by the end of the week.

Lord Raiden 2009-03-18 03:55

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.6 - SQLite and APRS
 
Danke Ioan! :) One question. Will this have a Linux version too, or will it run alright under Wine? I'm using Linux Mint for my desktop and I'd hate to have to boot into Windows just to use it. Otherwise, I love the app. :D

ioan 2009-03-19 22:40

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.6 - SQLite and APRS
 
I did a quick conversion from the file based storage to SQLite3 database. Let me know guys if you have any problems with the application.

Download it from here:
http://ioanghip.googlepages.com/winmapper.htm

YoDude 2009-03-19 23:10

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.6 - SQLite and APRS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ioan (Post 273070)
I did a quick conversion from the file based storage to SQLite3 database. Let me know guys if you have any problems with the application.

Download it from here:
http://ioanghip.googlepages.com/winmapper.htm

M/M has since added 2 zoom levels I believe. The space was created by bumping old levels up 2 places.
That is, files in number 4 folder as created by Winmapper now correlate to zoom # 6 in Maemo Mapper... and so on.

Will this create a problem?

ioan 2009-03-19 23:35

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.6 - SQLite and APRS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by YoDude (Post 273075)
Will this create a problem?

hmm, probably. I'll check gnuite's code when I have some time and see what modifications I have to do to mine.

Lord Raiden 2009-03-20 03:25

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.6 - SQLite and APRS
 
Keep us informed. I'm enjoying your work!

bac522 2009-03-20 21:14

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.6 - SQLite and APRS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gnuite (Post 271763)
No, the tap-and-hold menu hasn't been removed, and it isn't controlled by a setting. It should always be enabled.

Is anyone else having this issue?

It definitely is not working for me and I know it was before I upgrade since it's a feature I use a lot. I just upgrade to the latest MM rev. and the problem is still there. I'm using the 770 with OS2006.

Nothing has changed on the my 770 other then I upgrade MM.

Snake 2009-03-21 14:53

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.6 - SQLite and APRS
 
Well, where I'm waiting for my N810 I try Maemo Mapper 2.6.2 with my N770 OS2006. So I'd like to load some maps I can use with N770 and N810 later. Because I think it should be easier to download the maps on PC and copy to the IT I have tried WinMapper (updated 03.19.2009). After a short time I got a file named "-Google Street.db" and moved it to the IT. On MM I created a new map repository with the new file as cache file. But I only get a black map. There are some special steps needed?

Regards,
Frank


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