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i totally agree with totololo. why go for 400x240 if our tablet can handle better resolution for movies?
for me, one consideration to be made is should i remain the aspect ratio or change to fill the whole tablet screen...still considering. yet, full screen looks good...

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I find you can maintain aspect ratio (this just means you don't stretch or squeeze the picture) but trim about 10% off of the sides of most DVD releases, and you get fullscreen video on the tablet.

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Ack! No! I've alerted the pan and scan patrol and they'll be knocking on your door any second now!

Tim

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Hardly, Tim. Look at this example that the Wikipedia article uses:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ping_133x1.jpg

The tablet's screen dimensions fall outside the yellow box, since we have 1.66:1 ratio, as opposed to the 1.56:1 of the yellow box. I have found that there is very little (of importance) lost by cropping the edges.

Having said that, I'm not advocating cropping as a universal rule. I'm just saying that for most mobile use-cases, the pleasure of full-screen video outweighs the lost picture on the edges. We're not talking Imax here, we're talking about a handheld device.

And I must remind you that the more unused, black screen you have above and below your video, the more lost information you have within the picture. When you're talking about a small screen like the tablet's, it is a great loss indeed. All sorts of little details get lost because the picture is so small, just because you want to see what's going on in the far edges of the picture.

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Tell that to Michael J. Fox!

http://www.michaeljfoxdatabase.com/j05_mm_wsvspns.html

:p

Tim

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Ok, you're just goofing around, but I want to point out again that the tablets have a 1.66 wide screen already, not the 1.33 screen the pan-and-scan haters usually refer to. And I said that I don't advocate cropping in other use cases.

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Bah! If your goal is to maximize the utility of the limited bits you have available in a constricted environment such as low bandwidth streaming or, well, the tablets, cropping to action safe is a reasonable choice. It's a far cry from pan-and-scan, and the majority of material in any given DVD collection stands a good chance of having been created before plasma and LCD sets became the norm. Perhaps today a director can reasonably place critical material in that zone, but he or she would have been foolish to do so even a few years ago.

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Qole i agree with you ... I hate cropping and streching, but on a very small screen, cropping just a little little bit doesn't bother me.

By the way, i noticed that there must be something with the upscaling process in the tablet ... it seems to work better with certain resolutions than others, even with slightly less pixels ... but all of this is very experimental ...

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Ok, guys, settle down. I was caught by the Qole. ;)

Tim

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I'm in Tim's purest camp. I feel dirty enough cropping as it is. I also only do the 7 minute album version; not the 3 minute single. I can't be qoled on this.

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Yes but qole has a pink feather now, and soooo ... he is right, that's all !
I'm in qole's camp hahahaha !
(I miss a smily with a heart)

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....and leopard print lapels.

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When the film's over, we'll draw straws to see who has to walk over to qole's camp and explain the movie. http://planetsmilies.net/alien-smiley-7428.gif

We're missing lots of smilies.

http://planetsmilies.net/alien-smiley-159.gif

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Qole ... as long as your underwears are mached to your lapels ... It's fine !

Dapearl ... how can you get those smilies ??? !!!

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They're from Planet Smilies.

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Thx !

Aaaaaaaah, Qole in leopard ... http://planetsmilies.net/obscene-smiley-7193.gif

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Hi all

How do you prevent the large black border around a movie. I decrypted a movie I BOUGHT and then used pocketdivx encoder to change it to divx then the Nokia mp4 converter to change it to .mp4. But it has a black border around it.

How can this be removed.

In the mean time I'll go read those threads GA posted.

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@ALL

Thanks for a great thread...finally gave me the nudge to play with HandBrake(0.9.3) :D

My most recent settings:

:o(Kicks self - just saw the ADD button at the bottom of presets, I had been retyping everything...:o)

Source file 4.5GB VOB: The Matrix (Wide Screen)
(figured a true test would be the lobby scene)

Output ~740MB

Player: MPlayer or Canola

FULL SCREEN (Ok, Ok minor cropping)*
*Charter Member of the P&S P Cyclone Division

OK now for the question:

Playback is great overall, however it does stutter/pause(less than a second) ~every 30-40 seconds.:eek: Not a deal breaker....but,

How would I compensate for this?
-Lower the bitrate to 500?
-Uncheck 2-Pass?

Thanks

Snoshrk

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Hello !

FIRST
... 30 to 40 seconds you say ... maybe you have something running in backgroud that eats some CPU cycles or try to acces your card ... before watching a movie, be sure to deactivate everything, especially applets or taskbar applets ... a lot of them will try to connect to internet, to check the temperature, the luxmeter, the battery, the free memory or the free space on your card ...

SECOND
I used the original media player, not canola, not Mplayer.


NOTES

1/ Hmmm ... i believe that "Matrix" is not in 16:9 ratio but widescreen ... if it's true, maybe the best settings would be 640x272 if your movie is 24 or 25 fps or 576x240 if it's 30 fps. The original framerate of you movie must be respected absolutely. But anyway, you can prefer cropping to 16:9, because letterbox is not so convenient on small screens ...

2/ What I experienced with bitrate and 2 pass encoding is that with 2 pass, when everything moves a lot, the bitrate may becomes too high for the device ... So you could try single pass at 650 kbps ... you would see sometimes blocky effects, but handbrake makes a very good job and it's not so ugly.

3/ What kind of memorycard do you use ? The faster the better, you know ... class 4 or class 6 would be nice ...

Hope you will solve your problem ... please post your findings here !

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Usually when I watch films/shows I enable flight mode. This disables most of the background periodical activities (applets, plugins, RSS, mail, IM, you name it) without too much bothering. Just don't forget to exit it when you're done :)

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I find flight mode to be an important part of my tablet movie watching experience, too.

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I wonder, does flight mode completely stops the connection related processes, or do they still run in a quiet mode, sometimes doing things and sucking some CPU power ???

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Isn't flight mode the same thing as offline mode? When I use it it seems to still have 400 Mhz CPU usage.

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Quick update:

Flight mode: yes

A-Data 8GB Class 6: seems ok

Still searching for the optimum settings, still stutters

...back to the drawing board...

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Flight mode is just a name for offline mode. Does not affect CPU speed, but as background applications cannot connect they tend to cause less problems/skips. Also, having wifi/bt off will improve playback battery life. You can only play with CPU speed if it's music playback, video is usually demanding enough to need the actual 400MHz.

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As soon as i can, i'll try to test it with the same parameters than you.

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I've got some videos that has subtitles and I was wondering if anyone could help me get this working correctly on my tablet.

It's an .avi file but after running it through the tablet converter, my n800 says that the video isn't supported.

Here's one of the episodes:
Hikaru no Go

Any chance someone could take a look at this for me?

Cheers!

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Most of my videos won't play in the Media Player. I use mplayer instead, it works great.

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I am currently watching a ripped DVD using mplayer on my tablet... The ripped DVD is on my server... at home. :D

Running very well here...

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Huh?
Can you tell more about this, seems interesting !

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I finally figured out what my problem is, well at least one of them. *lol*

Whenever you guys mentioned mplayer, I thought it was just short for media player, the default thingie that comes with the tablet.

Since I now know what you guys are talking about, this is my new favorite thread!

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Hmmm ??? I find it strange, because I only use the default mediaplayer on my N810 (Diablo).

But I have installed mplayer ... so maybe the default player uses something from mplayer ?

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Hey guys!

So yeah, Bundyo was awesome enough to share his presets set up with me but I think he's using the Linux version of Handbrake.

I'm using Windows XP so I tried changing the name extension to what he gave me as an .xml file, opened it up in Wordpad and tried to copy and paste it over the user_preset file, also I think I used Notepad and did something dumb with it as well.

I can't seem to get it so Windows XP will understand his file he offered.

Any chance someone can help convert his preset configuration so I am able to use it with the Windows version of Handbrake?

Thanks ahead boys!

This is where you can download it at:
Presets

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I use VirtualDub with ac3 and mp3 support, so I can't help you :(

(Edit: I also use AVISynth and DGIndex to convert DVDs; AutoGordianKnot may be more useful for "newbies")

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Addison;
May I suggest you to simply use the parameters I gave before in this topic (page 4). You can enter it manually, it's easy, and then you can make your own preset ...
:)

Edit : this post gives the settings i used
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...9&postcount=40

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I am a little puzzled here.

Actually the TI OMAP 2420 is very much capable of doing H264 encoding (baseline profile) for D1 resolutions (720x480 @ 30fps and 720x576 @ 25 fps) realtime.
So, H264 decoding for D1 resolutions should not be a problem at all.

I wanted to know if there any application for video decode which utilises the h/w accelerators on the 2420, or is all the work done on the ARM11, because that would be a waste of tons of resources available on the device.

PS: I do not own this device yet but will be getting one soon.

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From what I understand, the OMAP 2420 is only capable of driving a 640x480 display, and so to get an 800x480 display Nokia had to use a third party display controller. So some of the hardware acceleration is lost there. The rest of it is lost because we don't have a driver for the hardware acceleration. So, effectively, we have almost no hardware acceleration for video.

This topic is still being discussed by Nokia and they have said that there is still hope for the community to get our hands on some kind of video acceleration drivers in the future. How much impact that will have on video playback performance has yet to be determined.

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I find it strange, because my E90 is powered by a TI 2420, has a 800x 352 pixels secondary screen, and can perfectly play full screen full resolution (800 x 352) videos perfectly ... But ONLY with the included Realplayer ...

I think it's only a question of driver and optimization.

Re: Video can be better than expected !
 

800x352 = 281,600 pixels
640x480 = 307,200 pixels
800x480 = 384,000 pixels

So the E90 still falls below the 640x480 threshold.

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haaaa, indeed !!! you are right !!!

... but it is late here in France (01:00) so I'm even dumber than usual :)