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im2,
thanks - just tried the new command and got this reply:
~ $ apt-get install wget
E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?

any (more) ideas?

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By the way, I am very thankful for your extended help. I'm sure it's monotonous for you to explain very basic things to this newbie, so if we can't get this to work, maybe I'll just give it a rest for awhile, and tackle some other Tablet challenges and work myself back to this.

Please let me know if you're out of ideas (or patience!), Im2.

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make sure app manager is closed?

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also, try closing xterm, opening new xterm, NOT gaining root, and entering

apt-get install wget

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The app manager is closed -- have just the browser open (actually, it's midori -- i never could figure out how to copy/paste in tear), and x term.

Just to confirm, I should type this at the $ prompt:
apt-get install wget

I'm cool to give you a rest at this point, Im2. I can bone-up on the machine and read any/all related threads and generally get more acquainted with the tablet in the meantime. I'll probably try to get the usbmodem program for my wife's Centro and try that, if i can pull it from her gripping hands. ;).

Again, quite impressed with the extensive help I've gotten here in just a couple of days.

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Thanks - closed out x term, opened it again, but am not sure if I'm in the root or not. Anyway, i tried the command with the new x term program, and same reply arrived (unable to lock admin directory - are you root?).

I guess we can call this one a night, Im2. I do appreciate your tenacity. I WILL get this screen rotated, and in the meantime, I'll read as much as I can at this site.

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damn. we'll get this tomorrow. not sure what i'm forgetting.

no worries tho. i knew nothing in jan 08, and the good people here learned me all i knoe. :)

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Thx - I'll check in tomorrow and try to 'learn me' a few things in the meantime.

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ok. open xterm. type "root". hit enter. then type: apt-get install wget

what happens?

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well, a whole lot that appears to have installed a program and now asks to install without authentication. shud i proceed? i think we're on to something.

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not sure, actually, but prob safe to take the plunge.

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took the plunge - it installed wget, then i installed the advanced backlight but when i copied the third command (diablo flasher) it gave me this:
dpkg: error processing kernel-diablo-flasher_2.6.21-200842maemo1rotationfast_all.deb (--install):
cannot access archive: No such file or directory
dpkg: error processing osso-software-version-rx44-unlocked_1%3a5.2008.43-7_all.deb (--install):
cannot access archive: No such file or directory
dpkg: error processing xserver-xomap_1.3.99.0~git20070321-0osso20083801rotation_armel.deb (--install): cannot access archive: No such file or directory
Errors were encountered while processing:
kernel-diablo-flasher_2.6.21-200842maemo1rotationfast_all.deb
osso-software-version-rx44-unlocked_1%3a5.2008.43-7_all.deb
xserver-xomap_1.3.99.0~git20070321-0osso20083801rotation_armel.deb

hate to ask, but any ideas? also, if we get this installed, how do i get the screen to rotate?

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see if u have better luck w/ instructions/file here:

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...784#post276784

report questions or problems in this current thread.

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the links listed on http://sse2.net/rotate/ are broken... eg

http://outpo.st/rotate/osso-software...8.43-7_all.deb

gives an error 404

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Sean-o

This may seem a strange tack here, but ... do you really care if you have rotation?

I used to have rotation, but got rid of it since the only time I actually ever wanted portrait mode was for reading ebooks, and FBReader has its own rotation, as do image viewing programs.

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I was about to suggest that too. I personally don't find screen rotation all that useful. It is a cool trick but not really all that vital.

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i typically agree w/ geraldko, but on this i can't disagree more. but, of course, to each his own.

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Great points, all. I guess I won't know until I try it. It would appear it would work well with mobile sites that tend to be left-side aligned. I like using mobile sites occasionally. But if I can't get it to install fairly soon, I'll probably just move forward with new tablet challenges. There's a lot to learn, I can see.

I think I'll review the screen-rotation threads one more time to see if I've missed a step.

What are some other programs/tools that you all would deem vital? I've installed the Personal Menu, Canola (mostly for last.fm streaming), a new homescreen weather map and the advanced backlighting, and a few other media players (although I've yet to use them). Obviously, I'm not a programmer, just a fidgeter with techie interests.

I do have to remember that this new device was intended for my wife, who hasn't seen it since I took over sole ownership a few days ago. ;)

Thanks again to everyone who's piped in.

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Personally I suggest also MaemoMapper (or Roadmap) for simple navigation/mapping use. If you are Skype user... Skype is also available. (And not to forget built in SIP client that you can make VoIP phone calls... If you don't have SIP account you can open those free... for example gizmo5.com (same as sipphone.com). The SIP client supports Video calls too!)

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I recommend feed-circuit.... it will download not only the rss feeds - but it will open the links in the rss feeds and download the full text of the news stories - great for reading when you dont have net access

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Install and try liqbase too.

Its a great program - very fast, nice smooth scrolling - you can draw, doodle and take handwritten notes - and everything is saved by datetime ... for later viewing.

As a relaxation app - try out the NumtyPhysics - very simple but addictive.
If you show that to your wife, thats the point when she might want the N810 back for herself :-)

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I too recommend Feedcircuit. There are lots of ways to customize this program. With the right tweaks (I can fill you in if you're interested), this program works great in portrait mode. Indeed, any html doc that is heavily text-based works great in portrait mode, either with the "fit width to view " option built into the stock browser (which is called "microb"), or else with Tear, which word-wraps automagically on many text-heavy sites (including many of the mobile sites you spoke of earlier).

As for implementing rotation, I'm going to have a look at the issues you're having and post in that rotation thread when I can. Sorry to have made this so taxing.

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Thanks, all. I installed feedcircuit, liqbase, mytube and a couple others (can't remember), but couldn't find numtyphysics. I'm assuming this youtube app is handier than going to youtube or the mobile youtube site.

Im2 -- I'll fiddle with Feedcircuit. If i can find the right sites/feeds that my wife is interested in, I'm pretty sure she'll start yanking the device from my hands. Let me know if you have any more suggestions about installing the screen rotation program.

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NumtyPhysics is here.

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With regard to feed circuit, let us know if the program is not downloading all the content from a feed item that you want (i.e., if it's leaving the post's title out, etc.). There are many hard ways to fix this, and one easy one that works for me. But best not to get into that unless you need it.

As for rotation, check back to that thread dedicated to rotation. See if you can't get it working with my new suggestion. If you can't, perhaps you'll want to check out the instructions bunanson links to there. But I'd try my steps first. His seem a bit more involved.---In any case, I think I explain why you hit your latest rotation roadblock, so see if my suggestion helps.

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Should be in Extras too, but it may just be in the Extras Devel repo.

Tim

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I'm a newbie to this too - I installed rotation using these instructions I found in wiki.

http://wiki.maemo.org/Rotation

tagtool is great for organising genre information fields in MP3's.

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That is the better way for newbies i don`t know why people don`t point to that very often, also try to copy that to your notes and save it for future use, any time i needed to flash my devivce i use that from my notes just two steps and you are rotating like the Jackson5.

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I keep forgetting that the maemo wiki is wikid awesome.

Also, when I drafted the post I linked to before, the outpost files had vanished. So I was hosting the necessary files and thus thought it was my prerogative to draft unnecessarily complex instructions. :)

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Im2,

Not sure how or why, but after leaving my tablet for about three hours in the standby mode, I fired up the Tear browser to look up something last night, and for grins, I clicked the advanced backlighting icon, and voila, the screen rotation icons were there. I think the tablet gods decided that I'd tried hard enough, so they just made it happen.

Anyway, I fiddled with it for a few minutes before I crashed for the night. I like having that option. Now, onto to new, fun challenges. Like being able to view my hotmail easily ... I'll do some thread-hunting on this dilemma.

Thanks again for all your help.

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Great. Portrait mode isn't great for all web pages, obviously. But for text-heavy pages like http://mobile.nytimes.com, for example, it's perfect. It's also good for browsing facebook's mobile portal. Obviously if one desires to ENTER text, landscape mode is better, both on the n800 and, especially, for when one wishes to use the n810's hardware keyboard.

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It's possible to setup multiple accounts using the built in email program which I've setup both a googlemail and sky webmail account.

Googlemail was easy to set up (pop mail) but the sky webmail running IMAP took a bit of fiddling to get it running.

You can view each account seperatly if you click file > view

If you need help with the settings I should be able to help.

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Thanks, Sevep. I have a family account (through our ISP) that I've set up through the e-mail wizard, but for my hotmail, I want to be able to view the online or mobile versions of hotmail. Be it through microB, tear, or midori, it's been cumbersome so far, if it even works at all. The MSN Mobile site works great through my Blackberry, so it should stand to reason that the tablet should work through the mobile site just as well (or better). I'll keep researching the site and fiddle some more at home tonight, and start a new thread if I keep hitting walls with this one.

Thanks for your input.

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So is your wife gonna get this tablet or not?

Proposed solution: buy another!

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I think thats a good idea and I've already set this up to handle my familys Sky webmail accounts to save cluttering up the devices inbox.

To save time I've used the remember the password option so when I click the link I've created for my ISP's webmail it automatically fills in the login details. Great for multiple accounts should you need to.To protect your account details you might want to consider enabling the auto lock in the control panel in case you ever lose your tablet or it gets stolen.

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Funny that you asked, Im2! Why, just last night, she looked over at me, clutching the tablet, and laughed. There is a method to my madness, however. My wife enjoys gadgets, more than most women, if they are handy and simple. She gets frustrated easily. I'm in the process of loading up two browsers (tear and midori) with most of her favorite bookmarks, learning my way around the device, simplifying the desktop, bluetoothing pics and videos of our little girl over to the Nokia, adding programs that I like and maybe a few games that she might. I'm checking some of her favorite portals where she occasionally fires up a video to see if they work on the tablet.

Basically, I've talked her into taking a second chance on the Nokia tablet, and if her second impression is good, then she'll use it. A lot. Which is why I arrived here a week ago. She hits the hay fairly early each night, so I'll always have time with my new baby, even if she adopts it as well. :)

Probably like in most families, "if the momma ain't happy, ain't nobody gonna be happy!"

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Check out mytube. It does fullscreen youtube videos very well. I actually prefer watching youtube on my tablet rather than my desktop now.

Also: I've decided that hotmail sucks on pretty much every browser / OS except Internet Explorer on Windows. I suspect they've engineered it that way. So I've been moving everything to gmail, which works great with all my e-mail clients (POP and IMAP) and most of my browsers.

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I find digi@scene as the best youtube client until date on the tablets. Please install and try. Somehow it hasn't got the deserved credit.

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Probably the reason is that you need to install QT which is quite big :)

About Hotmail - why don't you use the mobile version, should be lighter than the desktop one:
http://mail.live.com/m/

Hm, just tried going to http://mail.live.com with Tear and iPhone user-agent and discovered that live.com has a little better looking iPhone version than the mobile version.

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Thanks -- I tried the mytube app last night and I was pretty impressed. Sounds like there's another program (digi@scene) that is good too -- I'm assuming it downloadable via the app manager?

As for my hotmail issues, there's a thread that was discussing this back in late '08, and it sounds like a similar problem to what I'm facing. I don't have my tablet with me, but with each browser I used when pulling up the mobile version, it would either pull up the full site instead (which was a mess, at best), or take me to the mobile page that touts all the wonderful things the mobile site can do, but not the sign-in page. On my phone/BB, the linki Bundyo offered pulls up perfectly to the sign-in page. Not so on the 810 (at least for me). The paragraph below is from a thread ending last December, but I'm unsure of how to access about:config, and then how to alter the 'useragent' file.

May be the user agent settings can help. It depends on the user agent. Phone browsers issue a (nonchangeable) mobile user agent, while desktops (and the N810) issue a user agent for a full web site.
You can change the user agent by about:config and then search for 'useragent'.