Re: [ANNOUNCE] Mauku 2.0 for Fremantle
 

You can reply to a tweet, naturally. But "special feeds" like direct messages and @replies are not implemented yet. They will come... soon...

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Mauku 2.0 for Fremantle
 

Mauku 2.0 beta 3 is out now and is going to extras-testing today.

This version introduces ability to follow comments of a tweet (if known by the application; Twitter API is very limited with this aspect).

Note that you have to remove cache directory manually before upgrading if you have used beta 1 or beta 2 previously. Type

rm -Rf /home/user/.microfeed

in the terminal before starting application manager.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Mauku 2.0 for Fremantle
 

Hi,

I was testing Mauku 2.0 this weekend, Widgets have changed quite a lot from the older version and it looks great :)

Findings:

• When i'm not connected to network i get an annoying message "Could not get feed" every minute.
• Few crashes when trying to save settings and updating
• Input fields for username/password weren't great :(

I would like to contribute to mauku, But just wondering where to start :)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Mauku 2.0 for Fremantle
 

I think everything you described was related to the Microfeed backend. It is open source library that is under active development (by me ;) ). I appreciate any help and all contributions are welcome.

See the relevant thread: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=29942

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Mauku 2.0 for Fremantle
 

Just a question here. I haven't used the new Mauku, but I heard that you're using yellow to denote that a tweet is the start of a thread, correct? Like the 3rd image in your first post?

I really don't think that the color is very intuitive to indicate that it's the start of a thread. If I see yellow on a tweet, it makes me immediately think "favorited".

I think it's a lot more intuitive if you simply use tree view style triangles on the right side (not left as in the image below). Triangle pointing to the right to indicate that the tweet is the start of a thread. Upon click, the triangle spins downward exposing the rest of the thread. Having the rest of the thread be slightly indented from the left will further reenforce that those tweets are part of the same thread. Standard tree view behavior that everyone's familiar with.

http://evolvedoo.sourceforge.net/abstract/tree.gif

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Mauku 2.0 for Fremantle
 

Actually, no. Yellow means that a tweet is a reply. :) Blue is the default colour meaning a normal tweet (which may be a start of a thread). But, yes, the idea you had is correct. (The origin of this colour scheme is Jaiku.)

There is a small star on the top-left corner of a favoried tweet in Mauku 2.0 (the star was on right side in old Mauku 0.x).

This was considered when designing the new Mauku 2.0 UI. However, there are couple of issues with tree style views in Mauku and Fremantle.

First, the depth of a such tree could be anything. There would be a single first tweet, but after that tweets could be nested very deeply, since replies may have replies also. (Jaiku prevents this and have actually a concept of a thread, but Twitter does not.) If every level were intended, let's say, 20 pixels, only after few levels, the message area would be very narrow.

Secondly, Mauku is built on the concept of timeline. The latest tweets are always on the top of the window. If tweets were grouped into threads, it would be much harder to find latest tweets, since an user had to browse all active threads to read new comments.

Thirdly, the Fremantle HIG does not encourage to use of nested tree style lists. :) I can see why. Instead, subwindows should be used.

When an user clicks a tweet in Mauku 2.0, a dialog appears (third image in my first post). If a tweet has (known) comments or is a reply, there are options to open a new window with the whole thread of tweets related to the selected tweet (a refererred tweet with the selected comment and other comments or the selected tweet with comments). It is similar, but not the same, functionality than in old Mauku 0.x, and solves the issues listed above.

However, thank you very much for the idea. :) Keep them coming!

P.S. I have discussed about these things with a professional interaction designer also. Tree view was the first idea he had also. ;) However, after some discussion, he changed his opinion.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Mauku 2.0 for Fremantle
 

I was thinking just a single level of nesting, exactly how Jaiku has it.

Thanks for responding.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Mauku 2.0 for Fremantle
 

Having played with Mauku on an N900 and the SDK, some comments:

• One upgrade resulted in Twitter saying "provider closed connection". The preferences box had lost the custom fields (e.g. "username") and I couldn't delete them. Had to delete [font=monospace]~/.microfeed[/url] (or whatever it was) in X Terminal.
• Switching to and from the Overview (the main screen for my use cases) to send a new message is cumbersome. AppMenu entry as well, please.
• I want to be able to subscribe to a search (e.g. #NW09) and have that appear in the overview (perhaps the use of colour to show items which have come from your searches).
• I want a "Share with Twitpic" service so I can take a picture with the camera, post it to Twitpic and have it linked into my Twitter feed in one go.
• Open link doesn't work at all. It shows a list of the URLs in a tweet, but there's no "open" button and double-tapping on an item doesn't do anything at all. All I can do is close the dialogue and type the URL manually.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Mauku 2.0 for Fremantle
 

It means that the provider crashed. There will be actually two improvements on this: Providers will be much more stable when bugs are fixed, and if some provider still crashed a subscriber (the application) will restart the provider and resubscribe transparently all feeds it had open before the provider crashed. (Mauku and Microfeed backend are separate processes.)

This is actually against HIG, but I like the idea. An option in the AppMenu could be for advanced users, when the main window is still there for beginners.

I was planning to implement search in a separate window, but I like your idea too. Let's see what happens. :)

Integration with the camera is not yet planned. However, viewing pictures in tweets is planned, but I am not yet sure when it lands.

Known in issue in beta. Will be fixed in the next version.

Thanks for your comments and ideas.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Mauku 2.0 for Fremantle
 

OK, that should be sufficient. Pixelpipe can do the Twitpic (and others) upload - or a new one should be able to be written trivally; a sharing plugin isn't really the scope of Mauku.

Viewing linked images would be cool, even if they're only tiny thumbnails.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Mauku 2.0 for Fremantle
 

If you (anybody) want to help me to implement this feature in Mauku (actually in the Microfeed backend), please collect the following information of your favorite Twitter image services:

• The URL pattern of a provided link in a tweet. Put an asterisk (*) in the place of the unique identifier of a linked image. (For example, in Twitpic, this seems to be http://twitpic.com/*.) Now, Mauku will search this link from all tweets.
  
• The URL of the corresponding thumbnail image in the service. Use an asterisk as a substitute of the unique identifier got above. (For example, in Twitpic, this seems to be http://twitpic.com/show/mini/*.) This link will be used when showing the image in Mauku.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Mauku 2.0 for Fremantle
 

Are there any news regarding the search? I don't know much about Twitter and micro blogging and I have no intentions to generate content myself. The only think I use is to watch for these hashtags like, for example, #maemo5.

Is there a way to already do this with Mauku? I think it would be nice for the summit. There are probably many people writing about it with a special tag. Sorry if this has been asked before - I'm not very deep into this stuff ;)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Mauku 2.0 for Fremantle
 

Mauku 2.0 beta 4 was just released and got a major facelift!

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Mauku 2.0 for Fremantle
 

one thing im thinking...if i want to use ICQ/MSN...does Mauku 2 support these protocols or would it be better to use the integrated versions which can be installed into the built in IM client?

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Mauku 2.0 for Fremantle
 

You might be confused here. Mauku does not do any sort of instant messaging. It does microblogging... so Twitter, identica...

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Mauku 2.0 for Fremantle
 

hm, i see..thanks for clearing that up..so i'll just wait until the ICQ/MSN plugins for the IM client are released then?

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Mauku 2.0 for Fremantle
 

Search will be great.
Also how about adding gps location info.

Great app though. Thanks

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Mauku 2.0 for Fremantle
 

does mauku let me see replies to my tweets ?

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Mauku 2.0 for Fremantle
 

Screenshots or it didn't happen :)

I'm having a mild case of device envy right now.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Mauku 2.0 for Fremantle
 

Looks like Mauku will do what I need, then. :)

I have tweetdeck open right now: it shows a timeline of all my friends and my tweets, any replies to me even if they're not from my listed friends, a search I follow on one of the 'celebs' I interact with so we can have group conversations, a search on a hashtag and my direct messages. I can tweet, reply or direct message. I can also retweet. If retweet is missing, you use reply (to get the name) and copy/paste for the content (Maemo does that!) and shove RT in the front, so its absence isn't citical. Unless I'm mistaken, Mauku will do everything that tweetdeck does. And a whole pile more than jtwitter. Good enough for me!

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Mauku 2.0 for Fremantle
 

Is anybody able to help me figure out how to input my username and password ?
Apparently I cannot see the relevant fields for inputting this :(

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Mauku 2.0 for Fremantle
 

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Mauku 2.0 for Fremantle
 

One thing I found quite good at the summit was using the RSS reader to show searches (#maesum, @jaffa2 etc.)

I've created a Yahoo! Pipe you can use to create a slightly nicer version of the Twitter RSS feed:

http://pipes.yahoo.com/pipes/pipe.in...3391f83356ed6d

1. Open http://pipes.yahoo.com/pipes/pipe.in...3391f83356ed6d
2. Enter your search term in the Search box.
3. Copy the Get as RSS link into RSS.

Enter your search term in the "Search"

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Mauku 2.0 for Fremantle
 

Can it be true that no one have the same issues regarding missing input fields for username / Password in 2.0 beta 4 ?

It really annoyes me that I can not use Twitter on the N900, since I can not type in my username and password.

Pls help !!! :)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Mauku 2.0 for Fremantle
 

Unfortunately beta 4 in the extras-testing depended on wrong library versions. The newer beta 4 update 2 has the right libraries, but a backend database may be corrupted already if you have used the older version.

To delete the database, use X Terminal and the following command:

If you restart Mauku and/or Mauku Widget after that you should be able to start from scratch with new credentials.

I am really sorry for the inconvience.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Mauku 2.0 for Fremantle
 

I used to be a big proponent of Mauku (which was built for Jaiku, if I recall correctly, hence some of the missing features) but coming from Gravity on Symbian, there's several things that Mauku is missing (running the Beta 4 on my N900, btw)

1. Multiple accounts. This is crucial for me. I have 4 twitter accounts that I monitor/update, and I need to be able to use all of them at the same time (to switch instantly, without having to re-enter all my credentials each time)

2. Update from the timeline - I'm confused as to why I need to back out to the main screen just to update. Why not add a 'New Post' button to the options, or better yet, allow me to simply start typing from the Overview?

3. Twitpic support would be cool.

4. A 'replies' area would be cool, too, where I could simply see a single stream of all the @replies to me.

I'll keep putting together feedback as I use it.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Mauku 2.0 for Fremantle
 

I agree with everything Ricky said here.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Mauku 2.0 for Fremantle
 

Henrik, thank you very much for your continued work here (and sorry I did not get a chance to meet with you at the Summit).

Based on talks with others, I think I have a good idea for a future feature: the ability to filter OUT tweets based on tags.

For instance, RogerS commented that he needed two Twitter accounts to address different subjects. I can see value in that, but also in the obverse-- allow readers to say "I'm not interested in that particular topic" and exclude the referenced tags from their read list.

Thoughts?

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Mauku 2.0 for Fremantle
 

That is supported already. Just configure a new provider in the "advanced" mode. (There will be an enhancement for Microfeed Configuration application to make it more user friendly.)

I have really consider that. Similar button than in Calendar or Email application (Modest) would work.

That is coming.

That is coming too.

Please, do not make too hard judgements based on beta versions in a pre-sales device... ;)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Mauku 2.0 for Fremantle
 

Aha, figured it out (you have to name it something different, like 'Twitter2' or something.

I don't mean to make harsh judgments - I've used Mauku on the N800 and N810, and being the only Twitter client for Maemo at the moment, Mauku is part of the reason I'm even able to pretend to use the N900 as a primary device, and I'm definitely glad to have it.

I'm just used to using Gravity on my Symbian-powered devices, and it's far more advanced (of course, it's a commercial app, so the developer has more time/motivation/resources) as well (and I'm aware of that, too).

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Mauku 2.0 for Fremantle
 

Hi hhedberg. Thanks for your post here (and in the other thead) and thanks for the work on Mauku. I don't yet have a device, but I'm excited about what mauku will do eventually. A decent twitter app is one of my 'must haves'. It seems you've already thought of everything (Saved searches would be nice eventually!) and have them in hand.

(Love the name too - the idea of a miaow catching a tweet... ;) )

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Mauku 2.0 for Fremantle
 

Mauku had a critical bug in its backend code, which is now fixed. Make sure that you have the version 20091018 of the Microfeed package available in extras-testing.

If you have N900 and you are using Mauku, please, vote:

http://maemo.org/packages/package_in...0-beta4update2

The aim is not to judge user interface details, but to check that the app is not blasting your device, see:

http://wiki.maemo.org/Extras-testing

I am planning to release a new version with @replies and private message, for example, but it would be nice to have beta 4 in the Extras before that.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Mauku 2.0 for Fremantle
 

Mauku 2.0 beta 4 (update 2) is available in Extras now!

I am not perfectly happy with that version, and there will be a new version in extras-testing next week. I will announce that later. However, it takes some time to get that version into Extras.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Mauku 2.0 for Fremantle
 

Makes me pine for my poor, lost n900 even more. Stuck somewhere between here and Finland, my n900 (still to be named) will be collecting mauku as a priority.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Mauku 2.0 for Fremantle
 

Any news on this Beta 5 you mentioned on twitter a week or so ago? You mentioned now solid as a rock, and has replies, and DM's. I sent you a tweet asking you to email me, but nothing received?

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Mauku 2.0 for Fremantle
 

Congratulations!

In a related note, while I can understand that microfeed must be visible in the application manager to update.

Is it necessary be visible in maemo.org/downloads?
The downloads page has an option to do invisible some item. IMHO, it shouldn't be shown in this place.

I know it goes automatically to the downloads page when it's promoted to Extras and probably you haven't had time to check it.

What do you think?

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Mauku 2.0 for Fremantle
 

Tried to download todays update, but when downloaded to N900, when it tried to install, it said, "mauku is already installed". No option to update?

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Mauku 2.0 for Fremantle
 

Thanks for the idea. I removed/hided it from the Downloads.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Mauku 2.0 for Fremantle
 

You probably have the latest version installed already. This is the very same version that has been in extras-testing for some time (due to limitations in the QA process).

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Mauku 2.0 for Fremantle
 

any update on this? im desperately needing a replies view, and would *love* to be able to view each accounts' main stream as its own, rather than all jumbled together, similar to seesmic desktop.