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Here is an update from boygeniusreport: http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/...or-the-camera/
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All this fuzz about osso-xterm... Why don't you simply add yourselves to https://garage.maemo.org/projects/osso-xterm/ and start contributing there? :)
Gabriel has been taking Fremantle patches, although something like a vertical bar should probably be discussed before. Still, it's all open source so if you want to give it a try... |
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So yeah, we need to know about the pipe character. ;) |
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This is why I'm surprised about speculation on a piece of software that has open source code, is open to contributions and can be tested in the Fremantle SDK since the alpha release. :)
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@Quim: Good to see Nokia finally giving you the resources you and your team have deserved from it's inception. It's pretty obvious Nokia are now in an awkward situation with Symbian floundering for the next 12-18 months and Maemo left as their potential "get out of jail free" card. The RX-51 hardware looks nice and certainly has the spec to succeed, although it's too early to say anything about the UI on Maemo5 as it's yet to be seen in it's fully glory (maybe it's time to "leak" some YouTube videos!) As ever it's likely the rest of Nokia and their knuckle headed management will be your biggest obstacles to success, but hopefully the grim future facing Nokia in the high-end device market will ensure such obstacles are cleared from your path with the minimum of fuss. One challenge that still needs to be addressed is the need for more openness in the bug filing & reporting process from Nokia/Maemo engineers - in future Maemo will need a community, developers and mind-share more than ever! :) |
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Open is OK when things are actually open, but as it stands, half the "open" components out there are nothing of the sort. Then by the time they actually attain real open status again after a release Nokia is going to have moved on into maintenance mode and wont expend any effort on addressing community bugs and enhancement requests (not even, seemingly, when those bugs comes with perfectly good patches). So, no, you can't have it both ways here. Either you actually do your development in the community by getting your developers and managers out and participating in the community and stop with the code-over-the-wall insanity or you end this "open" fiction. |
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ROTFL... I believe it was all about the toolbar, not the virtual keyboard :-)
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PS: In fact, this modification has already been applied to the current Diablo XTerm, quite successfully. |
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anywhere one can download said modded xterm?
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According to Quim in the comments of Bug 3929, someone needs to open a specific bug asking that the toolbar(s) get moved to the side instead of the bottom, or even better, a way to move the toolbar(s) to any edge (left, right, top, bottom) the user prefers. And you also need to provide a patch to do it, so that the osso-xterm guy, Gabriel, can add it.
(Well, there's no guarantee that he'll add it, but I wish I was a programmer so I could try anyway.) Any programmers out there able to provide this patch? Or is there a version already out there that can have the relevant code diff'ed out and posted as a patch? |
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Here's a screenshot of current osso-xterm in fremantle SDK
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Is bash in freemantle, or must we suffer busybox again?
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The performance benefits of using busybox over GNUtils and bash are non-trivial. Although power users may be making some sacrifices with busybox, the vast majority of users will appreciate significantly improved startup times. |
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That's the nice thing about this platform, if you've got an itch then scratch it! |
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http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=306774&postcount=1 shows a screenshot of Fremantle running on a real device, displaying the Nokia font, in the title bar, which we've all come to love. [1] A default install of the Fremantle SDK does not include it, like its predecessors, but, this time, with the Fremantle SDK, it can be installed after adding the nokia-binaries repository: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...2&postcount=75 Thanks Yerga ;) |
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One of the problems with this keyboard is that there's no obvious way to use common european characters without removing common punctuation or other much-used characters from the Sym charset. Another is that it's less useable for typical linux terminal tasks, like " | more " or " | grep " - and this community is much about linux terminal tasks. Of course, we can always use a bluetooth keyboard, but then they could've made a more Diamond2-like device. |
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What I found funny is that the chr key was grossly underutilized on the N810 (e.g. why menu when you could do chr+e for é as such). We can only guess what kdb input is possible with the N900 - the basics are clear but (hopefully) there are a few tricks up Nokias sleeve, maybe through some funky ctrl-shift-fn combo, or dynamic layouts (wouldn't it bee cool for layouts to change when you switch from terminal to composing mail ? or swap kbdmaps with fn-enter or sorts ?). So, it's nut just in the number of keys, but with less keys you have to be smarter on the usability side. We'll see how that plays out.
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The device font is available in Fremantle SDK installing the ui-fonts package: http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/mae...ly/019981.html |
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But since you brought it up, it's not like ash-as-interactive-shell comes without its own support problems. Quote:
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fwiw this is how x-term looks today in full screen splendour. If you want to keep this discussion, feel free opening a new thread since this topic has deviated a lot from the original post. Thanks!
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Hmm, Debian 3:1.10.2.legal-1osso26+0m5
I suppose that implies there was an illegal version somewhere? |
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The legal-1osso* busybox version suffix has been there since chinook at least, no idea why.
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The major Italian financial newsper sports an article on the Rover:
http://www.ilsole24ore.com/art/SoleO...lesView=Libero Suits are now informed :) |
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