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Texrat 2009-08-26 22:15

Re: Maemo Summit accommodation
 
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Originally Posted by Jaffa (Post 315923)
No. There's a web interface for it and I need to go through the council spreadsheet and tick the appropriate boxes (in addition to the bazillion other things on my plate).

You are appreciated.

zerojay 2009-08-26 22:19

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Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 315929)
You are appreciated.

*group hug with sitcom-style audience awwwing*

We love you, Jaffa.

Jaffa 2009-08-26 22:52

Re: Maemo Summit accommodation
 
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Originally Posted by Jaffa (Post 315923)
There's a web interface for it and I need to go through the council spreadsheet and tick the appropriate boxes (in addition to the bazillion other things on my plate).

Pending some discussions with X-Fade about the web interface: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...947#post315947

Jaffa 2009-08-26 22:55

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...and I hadn't even seen the lovely comments to end the night on.

Now, I must go to bed (long day tomorow); I must not work on pretty UIs.

Reggie 2009-08-26 23:05

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Originally Posted by zerojay (Post 315823)
I thought there was no need for visas if you're in the US or Canada.

I'm just a US resident not yet a citizen. Hopefully next year. ;) We still need a visa, just like last year in Berlin.

dneary 2009-09-07 14:09

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Hi,

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Originally Posted by Jaffa (Post 315900)
I'm worried by the variables here. It's seems to be an NP-complete problem:
  • y from the budget for sponsorship.
  • x people get offered sponsorship.
  • k (where k < x) people are willing to share a room.
  • m (where m < x) people are travelling from a great distance.

How do we solve this equation?

The easy way is this: if you're being sponsored accommodation, you share a room. If you don't want to share a room, pay for your own bed.

lardman 2009-09-07 14:17

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The wiki page (http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo_Summit_2009/Accommodation) was pointing to the Ibis Amsterdam West Hotel as the main one, however according to Quim's post (http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...5&postcount=16), it should in fact be the Ibis Amsterdam Centre Hotel. The wiki page has been changed accordingly (and I've just booked a room at the Centre Hotel too :)

lardman 2009-09-07 14:19

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If you don't want to share a room, pay for your own bed.
Or just claim back half the cost of a room or something similar I hope.

anidel 2009-09-07 15:37

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So in the end, I'm still lost.. how does it work?
My sponsorship has been accepted and I know Quim booked the rooms from the 8th to the 11th.
I am landing on the 10th and staying a bit more in Amsterdam to enjoy it with my girlfriend.

This means I get the sponsorship up to the 11th and I shall provide for the two remaining nights or, as someone stated [can't remember who], we get paid 3 nights?

If the latter, I shall not accept the 3rd night (as it is definitely not Summit related) but I won't mind the 2nd (Sunday night).

Any ideas?

anidel 2009-09-07 15:42

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Originally Posted by dneary (Post 323168)
Hi,


The easy way is this: if you're being sponsored accommodation, you share a room. If you don't want to share a room, pay for your own bed.

According to the "Who needs a room" section:

Quote:

Please say if you prefer a hotel (or are happy with a hostel), if you need a double room (i.e. because you're bringing your wife/gf) or a single (if you don't want to share) or shared (if you're happy to share).
What does that mean in the case I require a double room?

Jaffa 2009-09-07 17:07

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Originally Posted by anidel (Post 323222)
So in the end, I'm still lost.. how does it work?

It's not defined yet! There's a block booking of double rooms. There is a fixed sponsorship budget. There are travel arrangements in place.

Emails for accepted sponsors, informing them how to sort travel arrangements will start going out this evening (thanks to X-Fade for help here).

It's not defined yet how the block booked rooms will be allocated. I think, though this'll need confirming with Nokia, that we'll do:
  • A separate email asking if you are willing to share a room and, if so, if you have a preference with someone else who has also been sponsored.
  • First-come first served on the pre-arranged beds.
  • If you don't get a block-booked bed, you can claim back to the value of that bed for the appropriate number of nights.

Remember: only two days left to apply for sponsorship if you want it!

qgil 2009-09-07 18:03

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Covering the nights already booked for single participants sharing rooms is simple. Everything else is plain overhead. We can only pay expenses against an invoice.

I don't think we need to cover any night before Thursday and after Saturday except for extreme flight cases. This doesn't cover extra tourism days. Hotels are used to issue separate invoices for partners and other extras not covered by corporate travel policies, so you could use this resort if really needed.

Hopefully all this makes sense to you.

lardman 2009-09-07 21:55

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According to the "Who needs a room" section:

Quote:

Please say if you prefer a hotel (or are happy with a hostel), if you need a double room (i.e. because you're bringing your wife/gf) or a single (if you don't want to share) or shared (if you're happy to share).
What does that mean in the case I require a double room?
Yeah well my fault there, I stuck that section in to try to get an idea of how many people were looking for rooms and of what sort (if people want to stay in a hostel then more can be sponsored, if everyone wants to stay on his/her own then fewer can, if some are happy to share then we're somewhere in between).

However, not many people have filled in the section yet, so it's probably pretty hard for the Council to make any sense of things.

And to make it worse I've added another section for people to say where they have actually booked.

I'd be tempted to send out an email to those people who have asked for sponsorship asking them to get on and submit their accommodation requirements.

My wife will be with me (as I'm coming back from Europe) so I need a double or a twin, but am more than happy to just receive half the cost of the room as that will be the same per capita cost as for the other sponsored members who are sharing a room.

Anyway, we'll just have to see how things work out I guess :)

anidel 2009-09-07 22:06

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Indeed, let's just wait and see.. :)

aboaboit 2009-09-17 13:39

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Originally Posted by timoph (Post 315282)
For those looking for cheaper options, hostel world is a good place to start. http://www.hostelworld.com/hostels/Amsterdam

I am not sponsored and I am looking for roomies to save some hard-earned dough, so I added myself to the accomodations page.

I'm shooting for no more than about 60 EUR per night. Would it be possible to stay at the same hotel as the sponsored participants and still get the group rate even if not sponsored?

Alternatively, anyone willing to share some other place (park benches excluded ;-) ?

timsamoff 2009-09-17 14:15

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Originally Posted by aboaboit (Post 328484)
Would it be possible to stay at the same hotel as the sponsored participants and still get the group rate even if not sponsored?

Good question!

Tim

qgil 2009-09-17 15:42

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The group rate is actually the general rate of a double room occupied by 2 sponsored participants, I believe.

aboaboit 2009-09-18 07:28

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Originally Posted by qgil (Post 328558)
The group rate is actually the general rate of a double room occupied by 2 sponsored participants, I believe.

I assumed the group rate was discounted, my bad for not cross-checking.

Rest of question is still valid: any roomies?

fpp 2009-09-18 15:38

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Originally Posted by aboaboit (Post 329085)
I assumed the group rate was discounted, my bad for not cross-checking.

Rest of question is still valid: any roomies?

I'm game (not sponsored either).

aboaboit 2009-09-20 10:35

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Originally Posted by fpp (Post 329274)
I'm game (not sponsored either).

I think I will follow the tip a friend gave me: use CouchSurfing!
I planned on staying a couple of days past the summit and this sounds like a cool idea!

aSIMULAtor 2009-09-20 11:34

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Anyone staying at the Mövenpick near Centraal station? That's where I ended up getting accommodation at...believe it or not, was able to get a room there for just 15e more a night than it would have cost at Hotel Ibis near Centraal station!

I had corresponded with some of my Dutch friends who said that Hotel Ibis Amsterdam City West is nearest to the Summit, but in terms of transportation (not having to change buses) Hotel Ibis near Centraal station would be your best bet.

edgar2 2009-09-24 18:52

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so for someone not being sponsored by nokia, seeking accomodation where most other participants are staying, how to proceed?

it seems the ibis amsterdam center hotel might be where most of us will be staying. how can i find someone to share a room with?

VDVsx 2009-09-24 19:06

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Originally Posted by edgar2 (Post 333081)
so for someone not being sponsored by nokia, seeking accomodation where most other participants are staying, how to proceed?

it seems the ibis amsterdam center hotel might be where most of us will be staying. how can i find someone to share a room with?

Some info: http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo_Summit_2009/Accommodation

edgar2 2009-09-24 19:32

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Originally Posted by VDVsx (Post 333095)

thanks, i already read that page though. it seemed pretty straight forward for those that are sponsored participants - but for me not being one, can i still add my name to the list of people who want to share a room?

qgil 2009-09-24 19:43

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It looks like we need to de-book many unused rooms from the group reservation. Does anybody have an idea about how many sponsored people are staying out of this group so we know how many rooms are actually empty?

timsamoff 2009-09-24 20:18

Re: Maemo Summit accommodation
 
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Originally Posted by qgil (Post 333115)
It looks like we need to de-book many unused rooms from the group reservation. Does anybody have an idea about how many sponsored people are staying out of this group so we know how many rooms are actually empty?

No idea. But, I was thinking of adding all of the "undeclared" sponsored attendees to the table in order that we can figure that out. I just didn't know when we should forgo people doing it on their own and start making some executive decisions like that.

Tim

twaelti 2009-09-25 09:37

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I'm staying at a measly hostel , which suffices for me. Didn't apply for sponsorship originally, as I thought there would be more worthy creatures than myself. Sorry to see so many unused rooms now. Process needs to be re-worked for next year.
(Alas, Iwill prefer a developer device to an expensive sponsored hotel :-)

lardman 2009-09-26 09:04

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I'd say "we" should send out an email to all the sponsored attendees asking them to add their details to the page, that should then give some idea of who has already found somewhere, who needs somewhere, etc.

People can then choose whether they want a sharing room, or put themselves down as having found something else, looking, etc.

The responsibility should be on the attendee really rather than the Council/Quim/other people organising.

Texrat 2009-09-27 00:50

Re: Maemo Summit accommodation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qgil (Post 333115)
It looks like we need to de-book many unused rooms from the group reservation. Does anybody have an idea about how many sponsored people are staying out of this group so we know how many rooms are actually empty?

Another question: it looks like I will be arriving a day earlier (I had hoped to attend the co-create session but will not be it turns out). Instead of rescheduling my flight again I want to pay for the extra night. Is it possible I could get the same room I'll get under sponsorship? If so, how?

qole 2009-10-03 02:14

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Everyone who is in a room alone in Ibis Central:


This is your last warning.

If you don't choose a room mate,
one will be chosen for you.


Pair up immediately at

http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo_Summit_2...om_Allocations


n8willis 2009-10-04 22:47

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Is anyone else who is sponsored going to be arriving on Friday and leaving on Monday? That was the only way that the Nokia travel agent could get me there. If there is somebody else on that schedule in the hotel, maybe we could share a room and see if Nokia would be willing to shift the reservation. It's three nights either way, but as things stand now my room will be empty on Thursday night while I'm in midair over the Atlantic....

Nate

Texrat 2009-10-04 22:56

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Next year we're going to need to coordinate this earlier and better.

qole 2009-10-05 00:01

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Anyone in Amsterdam on Wednesday (Oct 7) who can have a roommate? I need a bed!

GeneralAntilles 2009-10-05 00:38

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Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 339472)
Next year we're going to need to coordinate this earlier and better.

It's always a tough balance between starting early enough that things don't turn into a train wreck in the last few days before and starting late enough so people aren't having to plan too far ahead.

timsamoff 2009-10-05 01:33

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Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 339472)
Next year we're going to need to coordinate this earlier and better.

Um, the first wiki page was created in February:

http://wiki.maemo.org/index.php?titl...09&oldid=10767

We did start planning early. It just took a long time for everyone to start contributing.

Tim


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