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Just adding another pointless comparison. :)
iPhone: Darwin kernel originated from BSD is a true Unix. N900: Linux kernel is a Unix-like implementation from scratch. Not a true Unix. |
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That's irrelevant. As long as you can replace/improve it yourself, it's just a convenience question.
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Besides, iPhone OS is based on XNU kernel, which in turn was based on Mach microkernel. Whatever was not implemented by Mach was taken from BSD.
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First of all you have to be convinced - strictly on the merits itself - not on any hatred or fanboyism - and that can only be done if you have used the device itself. You obviously haven't used both the iPhone and the N900. And secondly why do you keep bringing up the iPhone meme whenever the merits of the N810 or N900 are discussed, yet you keep bashing the iPhone also in each thread on founded and unfounded grounds ? Seems like a strange love-hate relationship :D Best thing to do in technology world is to discuss the N900 strictly on its own terms - not on the iPhone terms or any other device's terms. |
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If you're not interested in the subject don't reply with noise. This way you respect those who are interested in the subject.
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Now some advantages of the iPhone 3GS: 1) Hype / trend. 2) Market penetration. 3) 'iPhone' always refers to latest device. 4) Big developer base. 5) Big user base. 6) iTunes integration, more known that Ovi. 7) Champion in UI consistency And for N900: 1) Nokia brand recognition. 2) No childish App Store reviewing. Nokia doesn't have the name to censor and protect stuff like Apple does. 3) A clear, new path from Nokia. 4) Like you said the 32 GB flash on board with microSD slot is a huge advantage. Its pathetic the difference between devices price is only one feature: on-board flash size. 5) Many people own iPhone 3G instead of iPhone 3GS. The iPhone 3GS is not a big upgrade compared to iPhone 3G, while the N900 will provide far better performance than iPhone 3G. |
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Something from InfoSync World:
"When comparing the Nokia N900 to Apple's iPhone, there are clearly many similarities. However, there's one big difference, at least up until recently: The iPhone exists to ensure that Apple's services and software will reach a portable audience also in the future, while the Nokia N900 will exist to pave the way for the LTE era. We seriously hope that Vodafone, Verizon Wireless and other carriers that are planning to roll out LTE early will embrace Maemo soon, as that would give 4G services a flying start." EDIT: Added link to what LTE is. |
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This is clearly wrong. sachin has never owned an iphone OR an N900, while you want it written by someone who has owned an Iphone and only an Iphone, since the N900 is not currently in sales. So he is objective, and you are clearly biased. ;) |
Nokia N900 vs iPhone 3GS
Hi Guys ,
Posted a comparison between Nokia N900 and iPhone 3GS http://www.fonearena.com/blog/wp-con...snokian900.jpg Hope you help me answer the iPhone fanboys |
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Of course get the facts straight. As far as I can tell, he had done research for each of these points to see how it is implemented in both devices. The people who pull out the "biased" word will only do research to prove him wrong, not to inform.
He's the better person for it. Also, f.y.i, everyone is biased. |
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Specs and hardware and screen sizes are all nice and dandy...but they can be, and will be constantly improved through innovation. Wait a year and something newer and better will come out.
However there is a reason I avoid Apple like the plague...they are unfriendly to standards. They use proprietary cables and ports and hardware and software all the time which restricts my choices. They make other decisions that restrict me as well...non-multitasking...locked software...no expandable memory...and even batteries that cannot be removed. Nokia restricts me much less...micro SD for memory expansion, no software restrictions (Or at the very least LESS restrictions), multitasking, removable battery. Freedom!! Or at least more of it. This is the same reason I will not buy anything from Sony...I have no interest in Memory Stick ANYTHING...no matter how good their stuff is. |
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I hope the sound quality of the N900 is much higher than that of the iPhone.
Because it is very difficult to have a good sound quality on a mobile phone (because of the radio transmitter). |
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In my nokia n95-8gb i can play n-gage games. The only problem is that the resolution sucks on the big tv.... but with the n900's resolutions the games are going to be a lot better. And the av connector is not included in the box. |
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For me there is no comparison of both tools.
They are fine both and they both answer to different people. If Nokia think that they will put in trouble Apple by getting market share with N900 they are wrong. |
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@allnameswereout,
"Easily solved with jailbreak. Will Maemo 5 have equivelant of push notifications?" IMO, Push Notifications are a bandaid for lacking multitasking. With a gig or RAM, who needs it? |
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Applications running in the background prevent the phone from going to sleep/run in the lowest power state. |
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How can you do a comparison without mentioning the app store?? it's probably the main reason people are on that platform.
Ur comparison is biased imo. |
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If you read my sentence, it was merely stating the advantage ;) I didn't say push is a superset of multitasking. The battery saving is no bs btw, try installing 'backgrounder' (available from cydia) which lets the iphone multitask, and watch the battery plummets. BUT, it is useful for a class of apps that is better run off of your device: Filtered RSS/Twitter/Database app that alerts you when a certain conditions are met. |
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It's pretty clear that the n900 beats the pants of most phones in terms of features. However what I've noticed is that the iPhone doesn't really do anything that other phones can't do but when it DOES do something it's presented to the user in a very clean user friendly visually appealing package. This goes a loooong way. The interface is really polished. For example the way they implemented cut and paste (even though it took two years) is simply awesome. I was drinking the iPhone Kool-Aid for a while until they released the 3gs. It was clear that they had no intention of bringing innovative features to this iteration and they simply wanted to reny people's 2 year contract. When the iPhone first came out it was the only touch screen option.. Now not only are there other options but there are other phones that do it better! I'm hoping that the n900 is one of them. As of now Nokia is ahead a little bit. But if they don't continuously release new and improved phones then they will be right back where they started. Especially if Apple releases a new phone summer 2010. |
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Now it is clear what was meant is a Maps application with offline maps. OK, clear. You can actually download offline maps with an application for Google Maps or simply download a free application with offline maps from App Store, but OK. Quote:
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@sachin: you know.. if the n900 doesn't 'convert' as much iphone users as you expect\hope\wish, it would be much easier to accept that fact when you know the reality of iphone's ecosystem than hanging on to your iFart-dominated iPhone fairyland bias.
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And even then, who is going to do that? Proprietary app, forget it, and most are. Open source app, you may have some chance, but why bother for so few users? In my compare I stated clearly the iPhone has a big developer and user base. With some luck we see some nice ports, and some nice new software inspired or copied from Android and iPhoneOS as well as previous Maemo versions. But it will need time, I guarantee you that. PS: Oh and you lack App Store framework for micro payments and developers traditionally don't get paid in Maemo community. So it requires technical and cultural/moral changes. |
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