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So, the T-MOBILE plan turns out to be $5/mo more? Interesting.....

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Yeah but if you want only the unlimited data and 400 sms it is 25$. So it is 5$/month less. SO the cost of the device considering it as a 2 year contract will be less by 120 $.

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So, sucks to be us AT&T users, eh?

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Nobody has corrected this yet, so I will. In Canada, Rogers and Fido both use the same 3G frequencies as AT&T. Those two (actually only one company/network) are currently Canada's only GSM providers so unless Nokia releases an 850/1900MHz version then they are *ignoring* all of Canada. I'd buy an n900 if it weren't for the fact that I can't actually use it.

EDIT: Don't even mention tethering. That's what I'm doing with my n810 right now and honestly I'm not even bothering 90% of the time anymore, simply due to the time it takes to connect (via BT).

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That's strange then since my American wife using T-Mobile came up here and boom, she's suddenly on the Rogers network so...?

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Likely, her phone supported 1700 AND 850/1900.

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You make a great argument for tethering. :D

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I'm not interested in that plan...Apples to apples, Sachin007. Unlimited to unlimited...

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Yea, it automagically goes to voice... :rolleyes: I pasted the link with data selected...

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I've got a nasty cold, so don't expect this to be correct, but...

I think we're talking about two different things. The N900 has a quad-band GSM radio (850/900/1800/1900) and a WCDMA/HSPA radio for data (900/1700/2100). So Canadians will be fine with the GSM (generally voice) connection, as Rogers uses 850/1900. Zerojay, that's probably why your wife was able to connect.

For data, as it stands, we're out of luck. But who knows, with several new service providers coming in the next few months, and Telus about the throw the switch on their GSM network, things might work out. Time will tell, Pinky, time will tell.

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True apples to apples but you also could consider buying oranges if you had the option. Wheras on At&t there is no option. I personally dont need the unlimited messages because no one of my friends have unlimited messages and in the US the carriers charge to even recieve a message. ... how do you guys allow them to loot your money like that?

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I don't pay to receive messages. I've heard that tossed around a couple of times... only instance of that is if your phone doesn't have a data plan.

Or if somebody receives messages from overseas perhaps? I'm actually a bit confused - I know I get charged for overseas texts (which sucks) but not for incoming texts.

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I think I'm in a similar boat as GA, only I'm on a family plan with Verizon.

Actually, knowing that Verizon is opening (a few) LTE networks at the end of this year and beginning of next, I'm hoping that Nokia releases a 920 or something with Verizon LTE support.:D

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Let's cross our fingers for a NAM version with AT&T 3G, then, I guess.

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Apparently there might be an announcement to that effect sometime soon.

Also, for what its worth, Ari Jaaksi on Twitter: "There is a lot of buzz about the N900. But its not done yet. ....sorry gotta take this call ...."

So maybe we're all overreacting... who knows.

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Seems like we have been down the road as to what a customer service rep may know. And the conclusion was they are generally not privy to undisclosed product launches. But who knows, Nokia is apparently not good with secrets of late. Here is the alleged response from Nokia. I hope it is true....

Alvin,

You are correct, we’ve announced the Nokia N900 yesterday. We have not announced where it will be available but have just said that it will be released in select regions.

Regarding the network bands, you are correct – we announced a WCDMA 900/1700/2100 MHz bands. We have not made any announcements regarding an 850/1900/2100 MHz band device. An announcement will be forthcoming.

Thanks,
Joe

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Be patient... Nokia World is almost here...

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The email from Nokia was not "accurate" -- See here


Update:Joe Gallo from Nokia AND the sender of this email quoted above has notified me that this email was fabricated. The original email did not include the last sentence.

:(

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Well, IIRC Rogers does have some AWS spectrum and plans to (eventually) expand onto it, which would be T-mo US compatible. Not sure how soon or how geographically wide-spread that would be...

And of course, saying you "can't actually use it" is like telling many T-mo USA customers (my town, for example, is EDGE-only for another couple months) and all the original iPhone purchasers they can't use their data connections. No denying that EDGE is inferior, and I'll be plenty excited when 3G arrives, but as someone who uses it everyday, I must say it's a long way from useless. If you can confirm that Rogers will roll out AWS 3G in your area eventually, it could be reasonable to run with EDGE temporarily.

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http://twitpic.com/fllpv

Doesn't show 3G sadly.

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http://www.mobilecityonline.com/wire...d=25125&view=3

on the detailed specs tab..
General
2G Network
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900

3G Network
HSDPA 1900 / 2100 / 850

att 3G?!?! can anyone confirm this? there are mix speculations so far. other threads say tmo 3G/ATT 3G. which one is it?

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The FCC docs say tmo 3G. Nokia has gone out of their way to say that all they've announced is tmo 3G. Until someone can show an FCC test doc of a N900/RX-51 with ATT 3G bands and/or an announement from Nokia...I think we need to assume the mobilecity page is an error.

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I'm doing VoIP over 3G instead of using voice minutes (my plan is data only), and EDGE doesn't work with VoIP, at least not on the E71. So for me, lack of 3G does actually equal "can't actually use it," but I can respect how others might be able to enjoy it with 2G/GSM only. I'm holding on to hope that these AT&T version rumors are true (and I am not in a hurry to upgrade so I can wait if it's coming later).

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Didn't we ask this "will there be an at&t N900 " question a couple of days ago and the answer was no?
Don't forget that nokia is increasing edge speeds
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/tag/EDGEEvolution/

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Here's a bit of good news:
http://maemotalk.com/2009/09/05/att-...he-nokia-n900/

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When I asked about this at Nokia World 2009, it was suggested that AT&T had zero interest in the Nokia N900, thus a compatible variant was not built. Given the mobile internet unfriendliness in Canada (from what I've heard), I doubt we'll see the NAM variant built for Rogers, either.

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Maybe the community can keep pushing for an AT&T NAM version, since it looks like T-Mobile is also not interested carrying the N900.

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Why do you think T-Mob isn't interested? They are in the process of lighting up their 3G network, and this is a compelling 3G device that runs on their network.

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Not sure where they got the info for that map but its WAY off. Doesnt include DC and Virginia Beach both of which I know have tmobile 3g and thats just from personal experience.

To be honest I am so over the while "3g whooo". 90% of the time the stuff I am doing on the net is background email checking etc and edge is more than sufficient and a hell of a lot more battery friendly. For the other 10% Its usually 8% in a wifi area (I live in rural virginia and even MY town center has wifi free).

To me 3g is more of a catch phrase than anything I cant live without.

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I think the TMo angle is a no brainer, and we'll see it sometime in the next 5 months. They see the demand.

On the other hand, TMo will win regardless since the radios only support them, just like the N95-3/4 did. People will buy unlocked and still run to TMo for activation, an even cheaper prospect than subsidizing. I think maybe TMo wants to see how fast it gets taken up as an unlocked device, and will base its decisions on that data as for how much subsidy it gets. If people buy it and run to at&t, it may make TMo give up a high subsidy, but if not, TMo will probably give a light one.

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While we are at it can we push for CDMA? ;)

In my aria Verizon coverage is superior, and there is 3G everywhere. (not to mention I have a year and a half left on my contract with them)

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http://www.mobilenewscwp.co.uk/News/...ject_n900.html
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Interesting comments from the VPs.
No subsidies, not much sales, a rough & ugly SDK.......
I'm feeling deja 'vu.