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vitaly_repin 2009-10-21 15:27

Re: Poor Mail for Exchange Support
 
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Originally Posted by vitaly_repin (Post 352356)
Sure.
I am going to ask to configure it in the way shown in the post #33 and check how N900 client will behave.

I have done it. Checked with Exchange server 2007. If "Allow non-provisionable devices" is not set in the options, then N900 MfE client fails to connect to the server. It shows error message during initial sync.

If I turn this option on, N900 MfE syncs with the server as usually.

stara 2009-11-15 11:52

N900 lock capability only supports numeric passwords?
 
N900 is on top of my list for "my first smartphone or mobile computer with phone application". Preparing its arrival I have read forum threads, watched youtube videos and web reviews. I'm convinced, Maemo+N900 rocks.

BUT I read following tidbit from one reviews comments:

----quote starts---
Most corp email admins set a policy on their Exchange server, traditionally this is to enforce a device password to protect the confidential info in the email which is being piped to the device. Although the n900 has a qwerty, the device lock capability only supports numeric passwords (like most other Nokia devices with the exception of n97's and eSeries). This is a real issue for anyone whos IT Admin enforces a alphanumeric password from the Exchange server - You simply cannot get you corp email (or calendar / contacts) sync'd to this device.

In short, the n900 only supports Exchange sync if the IT Admin lowers the policy enforcement which has worked quite happily for iPhone and Window Mobile since the beginning.....
----quote ends----

I cannot go to IT and ask, since they officially support only Winmos ...

So, In case Corporate Exchange server ,that I use, has alphanumeric password policy, I wanted to double-check that the above info is correct.

And if it is. Is "the device lock app" Nokia propriatory code or part of the open part of the Fremantle? I mean can it be hacked to support alphanumeric or do I need to wait Nokia to patch that support.


And if this asked and aswered, I'm sorry but "N900 and lock" gave way too many hits to crawl through.

mikec 2009-11-15 12:04

Re: N900 lock capability only supports numeric passwords?
 
there is a thread called poor mail for exchange support, which already discussed. sorry that i cant send link posting from my moby.

ewan 2009-11-15 12:47

Re: N900 lock capability only supports numeric passwords?
 
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Originally Posted by mikec (Post 376880)
there is a thread called poor mail for exchange support, which already discussed. sorry that i cant send link posting from my moby.

This thread, I think, and the view seems to be that Maemo doesn't implement this particular mis-feature of refusing to do what the user tells it, so you should be fine.

sjgadsby 2009-11-15 13:11

Re: Poor Mail for Exchange Support
 
Threads merged.

Saturn 2009-11-15 19:28

Re: Poor Mail for Exchange Support
 
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Originally Posted by vitaly_repin (Post 354016)
I have done it. Checked with Exchange server 2007. If "Allow non-provisionable devices" is not set in the options, then N900 MfE client fails to connect to the server. It shows error message during initial sync.

If I turn this option on, N900 MfE syncs with the server as usually.

Thank you for this.

I've read that the default value is TRUE.

Let's hope nobody changed that in our organisation. :)

hypnotik 2009-11-23 22:46

Re: Poor Mail for Exchange Support
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vitaly_repin (Post 354016)
I have done it. Checked with Exchange server 2007. If "Allow non-provisionable devices" is not set in the options, then N900 MfE client fails to connect to the server. It shows error message during initial sync.

If I turn this option on, N900 MfE syncs with the server as usually.

Unfortunately I have done exactly this and it doesn't work with the N900. I get the error: "Either Exchange server requires secure connection or account is disabled" and I can't proceed with account configuration on the device.

vitaly_repin 2009-11-28 22:30

Re: Poor Mail for Exchange Support
 
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Originally Posted by hypnotik (Post 387758)
Unfortunately I have done exactly this and it doesn't work with the N900. I get the error: "Either Exchange server requires secure connection or account is disabled" and I can't proceed with account configuration on the device.

Most probably the server you try to use has "untrusted" certificate. E.g., self-signed.

alcyst 2009-11-30 04:18

Re: Poor Mail for Exchange Support
 
I'm also having problem with MfE sync. Don't know if we have '03 or '07, but sync works fine on other devices (E71, iTouch).

alcyst 2009-11-30 04:45

Re: Poor Mail for Exchange Support
 
On the "Allow non-provisionable devices"
the guidance from;
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb123484.aspx

is "This setting specifies whether older devices that may not support application of all policy settings are allowed to connect to Exchange 2007 by using Exchange ActiveSync."

How come that excludes N900s, but not E71s?

Essel 2009-11-30 19:45

Re: Poor Mail for Exchange Support
 
This is concerning for me as well.

I have not yet received my N900, but if I understand this thread correctly, the N900 only allows numeric codes for the device lock. If your company requires an alpha-numeric code for the device lock as part of the corporate Exchange Activesync policy, then the N900 will not sync?

My company requires an alpha-numeric device lock code, and my current E71 works without fail.

I have been waiting for the N900 for a while, but if I cannot use it to sync to my corporate mail, it will likely cause me to cancel my order. Am I missing something?

vitaly_repin 2009-11-30 20:15

Re: Poor Mail for Exchange Support
 
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Originally Posted by Essel (Post 401319)
My company requires an alpha-numeric device lock code, and my current E71 works without fail.

It all depends on the policy of your organization - are non-provisionable devices supported or not.

If they are supported then you will not have any troubles. Otherwise, you can experience them.


More details can be found in this thread: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=139

vitaly_repin 2009-11-30 20:17

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Originally Posted by alcyst (Post 400116)
is "This setting specifies whether older devices that may not support application of all policy settings are allowed to connect to Exchange 2007 by using Exchange ActiveSync."

How come that excludes N900s, but not E71s?

MS guys can say whatever they want. This is not about "older" devices. This is about devices which have this feature supported or not. Linux device is a totally different animal than MS Windows device which was in mind of MS guys when they were creating the protocol.

tobert 2010-01-05 13:00

Re: Poor Mail for Exchange Support
 
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Originally Posted by vitaly_repin (Post 398174)
Most probably the server you try to use has "untrusted" certificate. E.g., self-signed.

So you say you can only use MfE with certificate, if you use a "non-self-signed-certificate"??
C'mon, if I decide to trust that certfiicate is has to work, right?!

BTW: I set up another exchange2007 w/o certificate for testing and synchronisation stops at nearly 50%... any ideas?! ;)

floffe 2010-01-05 14:24

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Originally Posted by tobert (Post 453881)
So you say you can only use MfE with certificate, if you use a "non-self-signed-certificate"??
C'mon, if I decide to trust that certfiicate is has to work, right?!

BTW: I set up another exchange2007 w/o certificate for testing and synchronisation stops at nearly 50%... any ideas?! ;)

You can use a self-signed certificate if you install it as described here and in the following posts in that thread. (Link taken from https://wiki.maemo.org/Mail_For_Exch...rtbeat_and_FAQ )

Guber99 2010-01-08 05:08

Re: Poor Mail for Exchange Support
 
I agree with badger. I have the same issue. Sync stuck due to security issues

Guber99 2010-01-08 05:12

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I have the same problem. Synch stops at 30%............I think badger is onto something.....

vitaly_repin 2010-01-08 15:23

Re: Poor Mail for Exchange Support
 
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Originally Posted by tobert (Post 453881)
BTW: I set up another exchange2007 w/o certificate for testing and synchronisation stops at nearly 50%... any ideas?! ;)

Could you check what protocol is used? My guessing is that it is either 2.5 or 12.0 (probably, this one as you use Exchange 2007).

tokuro 2010-01-08 17:06

Re: Poor Mail for Exchange Support
 
what i really want in this app is ability to choose folders which phone would sync. Today, all folders are synced and i don't need all of them on phone.

vitaly_repin 2010-01-08 18:34

Re: Poor Mail for Exchange Support
 
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Originally Posted by tokuro (Post 459533)
what i really want in this app is ability to choose folders which phone would sync. Today, all folders are synced and i don't need all of them on phone.

Check this post, pls.

Cristino 2010-02-25 17:14

Re: Poor Mail for Exchange Support
 
Hello. i Had a nokia N95 and had roadsync on it to recieve mail on my phone.
Now i can not recieve mail on my new nokia N900, HOW can i fix this ?
I,m trying to set the settings, but it keep telling me that there is a problem with my passpoort, domain or username.
PLS HELP.

Cristino 2010-02-25 17:15

Re: Poor Mail for Exchange Support
 
i'm using mail2web.com.

Cristino 2010-02-25 17:16

Re: Poor Mail for Exchange Support
 
PLS send me a mail on bikerboy30@hotmail.com for receiving my mail from mail2web.com account to my Nokia N900.

EE3547 2010-02-25 18:57

Re: Poor Mail for Exchange Support
 
So I have a dumb question, and as a non-developer I assume I am going to answer my own question.

Can't someone develop an application that 'tricks' exchange into thinking it is a managed device obliging to it's security requirements? The iPhone use to do it when activesync was first inabled, and currently there are many people using an app called touchdown by nitrodesk to connect to exchange on android devices since the activesync setup is hit or miss because of the managed device scenario.

Any devs out there working on something like that :) would really take off given the many many entries I have seen on this board complaining about not being able to connect to their exchange boxes because of 'non-provisionable' restrictions.

Just my 2 cents from a non-developer...

telnet 2010-02-26 01:42

Re: Poor Mail for Exchange Support
 
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Originally Posted by EE3547 (Post 546310)
So I have a dumb question, and as a non-developer I assume I am going to answer my own question.

Can't someone develop an application that 'tricks' exchange into thinking it is a managed device obliging to it's security requirements? The iPhone use to do it when activesync was first inabled, and currently there are many people using an app called touchdown by nitrodesk to connect to exchange on android devices since the activesync setup is hit or miss because of the managed device scenario.

Any devs out there working on something like that :) would really take off given the many many entries I have seen on this board complaining about not being able to connect to their exchange boxes because of 'non-provisionable' restrictions.

Just my 2 cents from a non-developer...


Hell yeah! id pay for that! great idea

Rob1n 2010-02-26 09:01

Re: Poor Mail for Exchange Support
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EE3547 (Post 546310)
So I have a dumb question, and as a non-developer I assume I am going to answer my own question.

Can't someone develop an application that 'tricks' exchange into thinking it is a managed device obliging to it's security requirements? The iPhone use to do it when activesync was first inabled, and currently there are many people using an app called touchdown by nitrodesk to connect to exchange on android devices since the activesync setup is hit or miss because of the managed device scenario.

Any devs out there working on something like that :) would really take off given the many many entries I have seen on this board complaining about not being able to connect to their exchange boxes because of 'non-provisionable' restrictions.

Just my 2 cents from a non-developer...

The source code for the MfE connector is closed, so in order to implement this you'd also need to implement a complete MfE stack.

Tex14 2010-02-26 13:25

Re: Poor Mail for Exchange Support
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EE3547 (Post 546310)
So I have a dumb question, and as a non-developer I assume I am going to answer my own question.

Can't someone develop an application that 'tricks' exchange into thinking it is a managed device obliging to it's security requirements? The iPhone use to do it when activesync was first inabled, and currently there are many people using an app called touchdown by nitrodesk to connect to exchange on android devices since the activesync setup is hit or miss because of the managed device scenario.

Any devs out there working on something like that :) would really take off given the many many entries I have seen on this board complaining about not being able to connect to their exchange boxes because of 'non-provisionable' restrictions.

Just my 2 cents from a non-developer...

There are SOOOO many people that have complained about it. This for me is a failed device, when I cant sync with my server due to non-provisioning..........This device was unfortunately designed for unemployed and teenagers..........

EE3547 2010-03-05 18:56

Re: Poor Mail for Exchange Support
 
I hear you. way too bad. maybe a 3rd party will dev something. one can only hope...

mud 2010-05-29 12:40

Re: Poor Mail for Exchange Support
 
just downloaded pr1.2 and still no partial provisionning support for mail for exchange like the symbian nokias have. So I still cannot use my N900 for work email with exchange. this is really bad and I can't wait for Nokia to implement something in a future firmware update.

badger 2010-05-30 09:01

Re: Poor Mail for Exchange Support
 
I am disgusted that Nokia have to fixed this - Especially when Google have implemented it for Android.


The last Meamo I buy.

andresmp 2012-08-27 09:16

Re: Poor Mail for Exchange Support
 
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Originally Posted by Tex14 (Post 547528)
There are SOOOO many people that have complained about it. This for me is a failed device, when I cant sync with my server due to non-provisioning..........This device was unfortunately designed for unemployed and teenagers..........

I am aware I am waking up a zombie post but:


there are other email servers other than exchange. employers are not obliged to use microsoft products. i fact, i would venture to say that employeers are better off without them.


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