Re: N900 UK Networks - Data Plan
 

This sounds exactly like what I want! Thank you!! :)

I had no idea they provide a SIM with those dongles! :rolleyes:
I imagine I shouldn't have any problems transfering my Orange number either.

Re: N900 UK Networks
 

That reminds me - does the Maemo kernel support routing and does anyone know if the N900 can act as a WiFi access point?

If I can have the N900 AND carry an iPod around connected to it over WiFi, I could have the best of both worlds. I know you can do this on Windows Mobile albeit with commercial software. Linux however should be able to do it stock as long as the WiFi chipset driver supports the right mode.

Its not a deal breaker, but could be useful as you could then put the phone is the best place for reception and keep the laptop/ipod roaming, or share with several people at the same time.

Re: N900 UK Networks - Data Plan
 

You dont even need the dongle, any old sim will do.

3 are doing a sim only data deal, 5GB for £15 on 30 day contract. And you can use Skype over 3G. ;)

Re: N900 UK Networks - Data Plan
 

Hmmmm, I didn't try that - In theory it should be possible, but Mobile Broadband is marketed as a Data solution rather than a voice solution. So the admin systems may not be in place to handle porting a number from a voice network to a data network.

Happy to be proved wrong though:)

Re: N900 UK Networks
 

Linux can do it, no doubt about that. You might have to install the NAT module for iptables separately,
like it was on the N810, but it's all open source and you could even compile it yourself.
But I don't know if the iPod supports Ad-Hoc WiFi mode.

Re: N900 UK Networks
 

The iPod should support ad-hoc mode as I managed to connect my iPhone to my 5800 as a wifi hotspot. It wouldn't work straight away though, had to download a wifi finder from the app store

Re: N900 UK Networks
 

3 also seem to offer an add-on to their pay as you go service where you pay £5 for a month of internet access.

http://www.three.co.uk/Pay_As_You_Go...e_with_Add_ons

In their price guide they define that as 30 days with up to 2GB.

Since I rarely make phone calls on my mobile that sounds extremely good to me. In fact it's better than the equivalent contract which seems to give you 1GB / month.

It doesn't seem to say anywhere if / what restrictions apply (e.g. tethering), but I don't really need it for anything other than web browsing, mail, IM and, err, SSH to my home PC!

Re: N900 UK Networks
 

I tested that offer last year, with a 3 PAYG SIM in an unlocked phone, but it seems to only work if you bought the phone from 3. They sniff the browser string. If you spoof the browser string it goes through a proxy and you get served web pages tailored to the spoofed device. Or something like that, I can't remember exactly, but it didn't work satisfactorily.

On the other hand, I had no trouble getting full internet service using Orange and T-Mobile PAYG SIM Cards.

Re: N900 UK Networks
 

It does. I can use it with Joikuspot.

But this doesn't allow PSM...

We better get BlueTooth somehow working on iPod... ahem.. :rolleyes:

UK data plans should be outlined at http://wiki.maemo.org/Data_plans

Here my Vodafone NL was using a proxy too, by default. When I had used a browser over BlueTooth DUN I couldn't use my browser on my Nokia E71 anymore because it asked for a username and password. But you can bypass such nonsense by disabling the proxy, or using a VPN.

Re: N900 UK Networks
 

If you get one on PAYG, how do you get the data connection? I do not understand how people can use smartphones with PAYG. What about A-GPS? Does that use network data bandwidth? I've never had a smartphone or GPS device, so I do not know.

Re: N900 UK Networks
 

PAYG means prepaid. You pay in advance and then use till you get to 0 credit. This way, you never get surprised by fluctuating bills. And, sometimes its the only option. Like when you are visiting a country. Yes, A-GPS uses network data, but very little.

Re: N900 UK Networks
 

I know what PAYG is, but I cannot see how it works with 3G data. I have used it in the past, and do not plan on using it with the N900, but I am confused about how data is charged for. On my network in the UK, Orange, data usage use seems to be a separate thing on the contracts, and no mention of it is made on the PAYG talk plans. Bear in my mind that I have never owned a smartphone, as they have never interested me before I saw the N900, which is more like a tiny computer. I would no longer have to take my ThinkPad ultracompact everywhere I go with this new Nokia.

Re: N900 UK Networks
 

You also get a 150MB allowance valid for 90 days when you buy £10 or more credit. So with reasonable usage patterns you can get 5 months of data out of a tenner :-)

Has been working fine for me (microb & tear) for the past 14 months or so.

Re: N900 UK Networks
 

Thanks lma. I'm not quite sure how you got 5 months from 90 days though - or are you saying that after 3 months you'd use the £10 credit for 2 months? Isn't that charged at 30p / MB? That would give you less than 17 megs a month for those last 2 months - that sounds a bit low!

You also get the 150 MB with a £5 top-up (again, according to the price guide).

Have you tried the £5 for 2GB / 30 days add-on? I don't think 150 MB will last me a month but I'll try it out to start with.

Also, have you tried any non-web services like SSH? I'm a bit worried that they'd block other ports.

Re: N900 UK Networks
 

Yes (more correctly it would last 150 days rather than 5 months), as 2 x this :

For my usage patterns (primarily email, jabber & ssh, with a bit of browsing on the side) the allowance is more than enough - I'm now on day 87 with more than 100MB remaining. YMMV, but even though you could for example download Fedora DVD ISOs with bittorrent I don't see the point ;-)

Yes, SSH, IMAP, SMTP, XMPP, SIP (signalling, audio quality depends on the connection quality and is usually not that great) all work fine.

Re: N900 UK Networks
 

If your PAYG phone has a web browser, you just browse away and Orange will deduct £2 per day (more if you exceed 25 megabytes, less if you only download a trivial amount).

To reduce this cost, you can buy an "extra" which deducts an amount from your PAYG balance in advance. For £1 you get all-day access (25 megabytes maximum), or for £5 you get access for a week (25 MB per day maximum).

The details are here:
http://www1.orange.co.uk/service_pla..._internet.html

You can buy the bundle from the phone by voice (I seem to recall the number is 453 and you need to go through many levels of nested voice menus), or by the phone's browser from the Orange start-up page, or from the Orange website if you've registered your device and set up an account with their website.

The words to search for are "Orange World". Not an intuitive name for "Mobile Web Access" is it? I guess the name is a remnant of their attempt to set up a "walled garden" for their users.

Regards,
Roger

Re: N900 UK Networks
 

On a non-3 phone? How did you bypass the proxy? On my LG KU990 the network settings received from 3 somehow disable the "Edit" button, whereas those from T-mobile and Orange didn't.

Re: N900 UK Networks
 

Both on a 3-supplied S2 and an unlocked/unbranded E61.

I didn't do anything special, but I didn't receive settings from 3 either - just used the operator wizard on the tablet.

Re: N900 UK Networks
 

New UK MVNO starting this year, runs on O2 network, could be interesting.

http://www.giffgaff.com/

Re: N900 UK Networks
 

well well well..

Mobile Phones Direct have just cancelled their Vodafone PAYG subsidy on the N900.

The price is now equal to 'SIM Free' at £449.99
http://www.mobilephonesdirect.co.uk/...spx#tabsAnchor

I guess this is as close as we'll get to a confirmation that the PAYG pre-orders will be shipping without network lock to Vodafone UK

They've also changed availablility date to Saturday the 1st of November - Presumably they mean Saturday 31st of October!?
..unless they're talking about shipping in 2015 :eek: :p

Re: N900 UK Networks
 

is this retroactive to those who have ordered the payg n900 at £393.00?

Re: N900 UK Networks
 

Nope, I've already had order confirmation of £396.98 inc. delivery

Re: N900 UK Networks
 

excellent, my Combi 15 + web-n-walk should be safe then.

Re: N900 UK Networks
 

How annoying

I sat down, got my card at the ready, and found out that mpd has raised the preorder price to £449 So congrats to everyone that ordered before today but

&@*%!!!

Well I guess us UK users should now go on a mission to find the cheapest Uk preorder deal. Who's with me? Please say you with me lol

By the way this is my first post on this forum. So "Hello & cheers for such a great site" I am a huge fan of the N900 and can't wait to get my hands on it but I'd like to pay a resonable price for the device like our American counterparts.

*Still in rant mode*

Re: N900 UK Networks
 

Be sure to compare the packages. Some contain different accessories than others. For example the car kit is sometimes not included, saving about 50 EUR/GBP. I'm not saying this applies in your case; just general statement.

Re: N900 UK Networks
 

Welcome to the forum, Gwiz!

Re: N900 UK Networks
 

You can still do this at Mobilephonesdirect.co.uk:

The N900, pay monthly, T-mobile, Combi 15 deal is an 18 month contract including 100 minutes per month and 100 SMS texts per month. Cost is £140.99 plus 18 times £14.69, for a total of £409.40 including P&P. Of course you still need to pay for your data, but you would have needed to do that with the £393 PAYG deal anyway.

If you want to add Web'n'walk data, it's 18 months at £19.57 plus £112.99, for a total of £469.24 including P&P.

Contracts suck, but this seems to be one of the least sucky ones because you're getting the calls, text and data for only £1 per month over the PAYG price.

Regards,
Roger

Re: N900 UK Networks
 

Yeah I have noticed that there contract prices are slowly going up aswell :eek:
The HTC HD2 is even more!!

Re: N900 UK Networks
 

im going for the Your Plan £25 + Web vodafone upgrade

24 month contract 300
Minutes
per month Unlimited
Text
+
Unlimited mobile web
per month £29.39
Line rental
per month
was £30.00 3 months
Free insurance
+
2.5% VAT Off
Line Rental

nokia n900 £85

Re: N900 UK Networks
 

Daniel,
What made you choose that one over the T-mobile, it'd be 18 months instead of 24 contract, and 29.99 phone.

Re: N900 UK Networks
 

u think that be better then just im with vodafone at the moment and my contract is due for upgrade for 16th of november and i think i would have to wait till jan to change network providers

Re: N900 UK Networks
 

After 16th of November I guess you can go with either, the t-mob deals are all cheaper for the handset cost though and with a shorter contract time, you can switch to a great SIM only deal sooner.

Re: N900 UK Networks
 

are t-mob any good ?

Re: N900 UK Networks
 

Im on Tmobile (contract expired a few months ago but still on). Should I get off tmobile move to PAYG on another network then rejoin to get a better deal then?? Anyone know if they are offering upgrades on N900?

The Vodafone data is ridiculous - 500mb per month ('unlimited') pah.

Re: N900 UK Networks
 

Unlock you current phone and try a tmobile payg sim to test network and if its ok, get the tmobile deal. Its much cheaper.

Re: N900 UK Networks
 

So out of T Mobile and Vodafone, which one has the best 'unlimited' data???

My iphone 3G o2 sim is used for all sort of things in a windows mobile including hooking up to a laptop and I have never ever had a warning. So it may be better for me to buy an unlocked N900 and use this sim instead.

What do you think?

I should add that I use an o2 open code so pay about £23 a month for 600 mins 500 texts and then the unlimited data.

Re: N900 UK Networks
 

Tmobile - its cheaper and offers 1gb ('unlimited' cap) with the option of paying more for 3gb and 10gb levels. The 3g coverage is pretty good too.

In my eyes 500mb (Vodafone) is far far too low (especially if you stream/ tether from time to time;))

Re: N900 UK Networks
 

ye 500mb sucks im thinking of moving from vodafone to t-mobile but i want at least 200mins and at least 500 tex so anyone think i should go with tmobile instead of staying with vodafone

Re: N900 UK Networks
 

Combi 20 Unlimited Text

24 month contract 200
Minutes
per month Unlimited
Text
per month £19.57
Line rental
per month
was £20.00 3 months
Free insurance
+
2.5% VAT Off
Line Rental Price with
New Contract
£86.99
might do this one and just add internet after

Re: N900 UK Networks
 

Vodafone also offer you the chance to pay for more data, they give you options of 3 gb (which I'm currently on) and 5 gb