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Bad news.... I hope you get a job. hopefully the future will be bright ;)

To everyone from the maemo community who is also on twitter, start using the #helpliqbase hashtag spread the word! ;)

#helpliqbase tweets

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I'll give it a go
linkedin is really good, I've just applied for a posting at Mozilla too now :)

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Hey floatie-- join the maemo group and I'll add you through there.

And lcuk-- if you look at any US jobs, especially with Nokia, let me know. I have contacts for you.

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Okay, good idea.
Edit: Okay I'm in - no prizes for picking the odd one out of this bunch

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The admin assist guy?

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I'm sorry if this sounds harsh...but you resigned and am now looking for donations? Uh...

Not the brightest thing to do in this economy without having the foresight of having another gig lined up. And honestly, asking for donations for your own extremely poor decision and planning is rather tasteless.

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I would have checked for an alternative job first, before resigning from the first one.. that's true.

He has been putting faith in a bright future, and this has yet to come.

But you can't blame him for asking for help.
Many people, including me, are willing to help a friend.

So yes, he was a bit reckless in doing what he did, but your post sure is harsh.
Not against you.. it seems you simply pointed that fact out, but asking for help is not tasteless at all.

Aniello

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shame that i'm on a payless holiday for 50% of my time rest of the year, would have otherwise donated more just for a principle.

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I think quitting a job on principle like I think was the case here is something people should let themselves do. I hate the way our short lives are mostly about working and only then what comes next. Yeah, it wasn't economical decision but lcuk made it so he'd be able to keep doing what he was devoted to. I respect that.

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It's true that resigning without having a new job lined up already may not be a strategically good choice, and we all know this, but the truth is, if push comes to shove, I would do exactly the same.

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It really seems you only came in here to be an arse. lcuk has been an asset to the maemo community for a long time now.

We are a community, and we help our own. We all want to see lcuk go to the summit, even people like me who are not attending. So I threw in what I could (which was not alot), I am really hoping nokia/maemo will cough up a little something something to help him out.

As for you silvermountain, its not something you would have done, OK. I personally see your post as completely tasteless and rather obnoxious..



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I've popped a bit over. Not much I'm afraid. lcuk, you are a true contributing member of the community. I wish you luck and speed with your search for a new job.

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There's a time and a place for everything... and this isn't the time or the place for this kind of post. It doesn't help.

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silvermountain,

please don't get me wrong - I wasn't asking for pity about what I did.

I have known for 3 weeks this day was coming - like I said everything within reason was planned, I had made all the arrangements I possibly could have considering - it was merely an unexpected kick in the teeth.

I have spent the last couple of weeks applying for and talking with people regarding continuing development and work within the community - you didn't see me complaining loudly - I just got on with it pretty much as before.

As for the reasons well I requested a few days to finish the project, my boss was unwilling to give them me. It was the first time in 9 years when I had something more important than his work.

It was a decision whether I resign or get fired for missing the time, because this meant an awful lot to me and I was not about to let everybody down.
I still do not know what the future will bring, but I will try and know had I not completed the objective and gone to London I would have regretted it every single day of my life.


You guys, words cannot express how much the support you have given us means.
I know the community is the right place for me and will discuss tonight with Tracy, she has the key so I cannot tell whether this gap is closed though until later.

thank you all, I'll keep you updated.

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You had the guts of doing a very thought choice and had the luck (lcuk :) ) of having your family with you.

I really regard you with esteem.

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lcuk, I lost my job of 8 years (we wont get into that story) about 3 years ago. I was blind sided and dismayed. It took me about 30 days and I had a job making twice the old one. Generally if you have been working somewhere for 8-9 years, you are most likely worth more than they were paying you. I am sure you will be looking back on this as the best thing that ever happened to you. I can't wait to see what you bring us in the future and what the future brings for you.

Good thoughts and God Bless

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While I agree that's not what not ideal in this economic climate he is taking a risk on his dream and just didn't see all the turns ahead (getting half a paycheck instead of one). But asking for donations is never tasteless when you need help. And if you don't want to see it as a donation look at it this way, here is a great guy on the maemo platform thatas innovative ideas and wants to bring interesting software and uses to Maemo and the Nokia devices. As a user of said products by supporting him, you also benefit from him not having to stress as much about getting bills paid, or how to feed his family. Giving him time to think, program, create, etc.

It's a model straight out of the Renaissance. :P

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its a shame I can't use that as a reference on my cv :)

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I agree - It's not charity, just delayed donations for his work

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Sometimes a rash move is the way to find a path you wouldn't have found otherwise.

I quit a job I hated and started a chess web site in California. A few months later I had a job offer working with the chess world champion, Garry Kasparov, in Manhattan, which I of course accepted. A year later I moved to Moscow, and I spent six years as a chess journalist. It was an incredible adventure I never would have had without following my instincts instead of being prudent.

There is something called "positive paranoia" that many successful people have, and it is a good thing to cultivate. After a few impulsive moves that turn out well, you start to get the feeling that people are secretly scheming to help you. Everywhere you expect the situation to suddenly change in your favor -- and it does! You seem like exactly the sort of person who may turn this problem into the best thing you've ever done.

Good luck, lcuk.

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When you follow your bliss, the first few steps aren't usually blissful.

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I'm really sorry for your situation, but I really would have never left my job before finding a new one.

You were a lucky person to have a good and fixed job. Lot of people, even with a PhD don't have one (I'm talking in particular about situation in Italy). But you left it.

Don't those people have the same (or worse) problem like you?

I really hope you can find a new job as soon as possible, but I also hope you've learned to be smarter for the future.

Best regards.

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Hey lcuk, sorry I got you in trouble.

FYI,

please don't write "for sexual services" on your donations to lcuk,

Mrs lcuk, was not initially amused :eek:

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Penguinbait, you owe me a new keyboard if I can't get the mixture of coffee and saliva out of this one!

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did this actually happen? Cause if so its even funnier.

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then I guess its even funnier, because yes this did happen :D

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Sure. I'd rather say one should keep a buffer for nasty situations like these. Easier said that done!! He worked for 9 years for this employer. You don't expect your employer to screw you then!! :mad:

Wait, the onedotzero demo aroused you as well? FWIW, this demo will for me always be known as the first demo featuring ordinary people enjoying the Nokia N900. It made me excited, and I was happy to pass it along. :D

lcuk, I wish you the best, I wish you can come to Maemo summit yet more important I wish you will put life on rails as such is more important than a (really nice) side project. Priorities... sigh :)

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Man you are mean! LOL...

Nathan

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Ugh; that really sucks.

Not sure I would have made that choice; but I won't judge it -- you needed to do what you felt was the right course of action. I've made choices others wouldn't have either. ;-)

Good luck in your job hunt, I I don't have anything but some "personal" projects, which pay diddly squat at the time being.

Nathan

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this is the last I will say on this subject for now.

We have been checking now and there is enough to come to the summit.
With your most gracious assistance in my hour of need I will be coming and I will try to personally thank each and every one of you for your support :)

Whether I can continue after that is still blowing in the wind.

I would love to remain active here and hope together we can find a way.
I am not the best at all this business stuff, I just like to make things run smoothly.


Sincerely,


Gary, Tracy, Luke and Jacob.

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Woohoo! ;) The Summit wouldn't have been the same without you.

Tim

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Oh well, I was hoping to take lcuk's place at the co-creation session, but now that he's coming I guess I'll still be visiting the museums... ;)

Gary make sure you sit close to someone like Tim so he can translate your dialect into English. :p

(I'm so glad you're coming)

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For that you need a Northerner that has been ridden of his accent, I step up to the plate :D

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I'm shocked you even admitted to it ;)

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It's a relief, isn't it? :D

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I'm in limbo land, I go up north, they say I'm now a "Southern Softy", I go anywhere down here I'm a "Northern Wan**r". Can't win but then I'm used to that being married for 8 years now ;)

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I've refrained from commenting as we've already talked about it but ..

I'll start with a little tale.

One of the things that I admired about an open source friend I have was that when he was made redundant, he too asked for donations with one caveat, he promised to pay each and every, dollar in this case, back when he could. Took him a little while but every donation he received to tide him along until he found a job was paid back. Mucho-admiration for that. I even donated and if you ask my friends how tight I am you would be as shocked as they were :D (I donated the money afterwards to a children's charity rather than accept it back).

Anyway, take this as an opportunity to find the job of your dreams. Keep it professional, search hard and I'm sure you find something that suits both you and your skills.

Good luck!

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As another Northerner, I don't think you've lost your accent really :-)

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Apart from ascribing it to "Laughing Man", I would. I've put stuff about my "extra-curricular" work on Maemo on my work evaluations and have got recognition at work for being externally respected.

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I've been off of this forum for a few days but was really moved to read this thread. Everything from the initial post, to the outpouring of advice and support, to a bit of a happy ending.

Gary, I too was amazed at what you were able to do at the onedotzero event and have a truly deep admiration for the passion and commitment you've shown to a community, a platform, and a principle.

Best of luck to you on the job search and looking forward to seeing ya at the summit.