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floffe 2009-11-17 22:16

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
The bug should be fixed in software release 1.1, which Nokia Sweden thought would be done week 49 (starts Nov 30).

3n900 2009-11-17 22:58

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
Just wish it would hurry up!

willdime 2009-11-19 16:29

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
Hi,

I have been reading through this thread and find it strange.

I have been using a pre-release N900 with a 3 sim card for some time now without any rejections. Also the rejection only applies to 2G phones not 3G ones.

I just updated the software this very moment to the new software and it still works fine.

pelago 2009-11-19 16:30

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
It's only some 3 SIMs, I believe.

406NotAcceptable 2009-11-19 18:18

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JR99 (Post 366907)
Quoting their terms and conditions, they have said that the sim will be disabled if used in 2g, well i have been using in GSM mode for 8 months now and it never disabled my sim :eek:. Do you get what i mean?

Please correct me if I am wrong:D

That's because Three can't tell that you have 3G turned off. For all Three know, you have it set to dual mode; but are living in an area without any 3G/3.5G coverage.

Venomrush 2009-11-19 18:20

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
3 is the reason our N900s got pushback as Nokia tries to fix the 3 sims issue :/

MisterSim76 2009-11-19 18:37

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Venomrush (Post 382550)
3 is the reason our N900s got pushback as Nokia tries to fix the 3 sims issue :/

It seems pretty plausible that that's the reason. Nokia Italy & France have now shipped N900s to their customers. & if you see this bug report (link below), it is confirmed that Italian '3' SIM cards are strangely unaffected...

https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5315

Dave999 2009-11-19 19:14

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
what kind of cards are used in italy? the old ones or the new?

Venomrush 2009-11-19 19:30

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterSim76 (Post 382571)
It seems pretty plausible that that's the reason. Nokia Italy & France have now shipped N900s to their customers. & if you see this bug report (link below), it is confirmed that Italian '3' SIM cards are strangely unaffected...

https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5315

By pushing back the delivery date, which in turn shortens the amount of time the 3 users will have to wait to use the N900. It's definately a good move by Nokia!

bigdrum 2009-11-19 20:40

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
I was on to 3 last night for my PAC so my number will be transfered to vodaphone when the n900 actually gets to my shore. 45 mins!! later with the 3 guy trying to make me stay with them saying the n900 will most PROBABLY be in use with them in jan or feb.He then offered me a deal of £14 a month to stay with them and SEE WHAT HAPPENS in jan or feb. Hence I clung on for my PAC. Sod him!

speculatrix 2009-11-19 22:01

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 406NotAcceptable (Post 382549)
That's because Three can't tell that you have 3G turned off. For all Three know, you have it set to dual mode; but are living in an area without any 3G/3.5G coverage.

when I first used 3G on nokia e65, it shortened the battery life quite a bit with original firmware, so I forced phone to GSM only - this ability to choose network is disabled in Three-specific firmware, but my phone was unlocked with generic ;). I talked to someone in the business about this and was told that Three have ways to monitor whether someone appears locked to 2G and can, within terms and conditions, require that customer goes back to dual mode or 3G only.

if you're on 2G, there are things which won't work - they have to pay Orange quite a bit for roaming, so I'm told, especially for data, which explains the above.

Netweaver 2009-11-20 11:20

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
Hurray,

I just saw this bug-update in my mail:
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5315

Status RESOLVED, asking for internal testers to confirm the fix as often as possible.

It's going to be in every build based on or after 2009-47, whenever they make an official drop the the big public.

I hope that's pretty soon as my N900 has to run on 3 UK as of next week'ish ...

jjx 2009-11-20 15:36

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 3n900 (Post 379870)
They told me the n900 would be available on three UK shortly after nokia release it in the UK. He said it would be a couple of weeks as three would have to develop software for the n900.

That sounds like a good reason to get a SIM-free one, and use it with 3's SIM-only contract (which are supposed to work "with any 3g handset", unlike a few years ago where you had to use a 3-branded handset).

I really don't like the software networks add to their locked phones.

Like all the memory gets taken with games you can't play without paying, but you can't delete to use the memory for something else. And menus and home screen buttons you can't edit (even though the SIM-free one has them editable). I've had both of those from 3 on some handsets.

I'm really glad they've started supporting "any 3g handset" at last. My N900 will be a SIM-free model from the Nokia Shop, with an excellent SIM-only deal from 3 :-)

Nice to see the new 3-compatible firmware's ready before the N900 has actually started shipping :-D

jjx 2009-11-20 15:39

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by speculatrix (Post 382864)
when I first used 3G on nokia e65, it shortened the battery life quite a bit with original firmware, so I forced phone to GSM only

Although 3G is more power hungry than 2G, all 3G Nokias I've used have a "use packet data = when needed / when available" option.

If you set it to "use packet data = when needed", the battery seems to last quite a bit longer, even though it's still a 3G connection.

I've noticed handsets supplied from 3 (the operator) have that set to "= when available", so the first thing I've done with several handsets for different people is change that setting.

alfars4des 2009-11-20 16:50

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeremiah (Post 347318)
I also have 3 but am subscribed in Sweden. I received a N900 on loan at the summit. My 3 SIM card does not work. I spoke with people at the summit and they said this was a known issue.









Hopefully it will be fixed, but in the meantime I think one has to switch away from 3 or use another device.

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Venomrush 2009-11-20 17:42

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeremiah (Post 347318)
I also have 3 but am subscribed in Sweden. I received a N900 on loan at the summit. My 3 SIM card does not work. I spoke with people at the summit and they said this was a known issue.

Hopefully it will be fixed, but in the meantime I think one has to switch away from 3 or use another device.

3 sim card in Sweden has now confirmed to be working with the new firmware.

3n900 2009-11-24 19:18

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
Still not released?!?!!? whats a goins on!!!!!!

harbourlight 2009-12-01 01:26

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
So is this new firmware supposed to be on the phones shipping this week? Or will I have to wait for an update?

Queb 2009-12-05 12:25

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
Any news on the release of updated firmware ? I'm having to use a 2g Orange simcard and its horrid using the web ! :(

bigdrum 2009-12-05 12:46

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
well if it's any help l got my n900 yesterday and have put my three sim in till i'm ported over on monday evening and all seems to work fine.

pn51 2009-12-05 13:17

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bigdrum (Post 411494)
well if it's any help l got my n900 yesterday and have put my three sim in till i'm ported over on monday evening and all seems to work fine.

Do you know what Firmware your N900 is using?
My N900 left the Netherlands yesterday and I hope my 3UK (Contract SIM) will work. Thanks

colourblind 2009-12-05 13:24

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
in france, the n900 doesnt work with Vodaphone France (SFR)

on the edge of insanity 2009-12-05 15:09

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
With this issue looking like its close to being resolved, does anyone know what 3's 'unlimited internet' on the Pay Monthly £15 SIM actually entails? I can find price plan breakdowns for Pay as you Go and Contract Phones, but there doesn't seem to be the same information for Pay Monthly SIMs on their site. Anyone happen to know?

Also, has there been any indication that they will be offering free Skype-to-Skype calls on this phone, or is this only likely to be available for people who buy the phone through a 3 Contract as and when they decide to release it?

Andre Klapper 2009-12-05 16:04

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bigdrum (Post 411494)
well if it's any help l got my n900 yesterday and have put my three sim in till i'm ported over on monday evening and all seems to work fine.

Exact information about Provider, Country and used software version is welcome. :-)

Andre Klapper 2009-12-05 16:05

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by colourblind (Post 411531)
in france, the n900 doesnt work with Vodaphone France (SFR)

That's news to me. Who says that? Any references? Or you yourself having problems?
What is the exact problem? SIM card not recognized?

Andre Klapper 2009-12-05 16:07

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by harbourlight (Post 401924)
So is this new firmware supposed to be on the phones shipping this week? Or will I have to wait for an update?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Queb (Post 411473)
Any news on the release of updated firmware ? I'm having to use a 2g Orange simcard and its horrid using the web ! :(

In general Nokia does not announce firmware updates in advance. Hence it means waiting...
And yes, the bug is internally fixed.
Also, lma was so kind to send me a UK 3 SIM card and it worked perfectly for me running the latest internal version.

pn51 2009-12-07 23:59

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
Received my N900 today and my 3UK contract SIM is “Rejected” as is a 3UK P.A.Y.G SIM, tested it with my work O2 SIM that works OK.
Apart from the 3UK SIM Issue I am pleased with the N900.
Microphone ok
Screen Perfect

I do hope this 3 SIM issue is corrected quickly as it is very annoying not being able to use it as a phone or use the web using the cellular network!

Paul.

harbourlight 2009-12-08 12:13

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
Hey just thought I would let you guys know that the Australian Three sim cards work fine. Put it straight in and everything worked.

Keir 2009-12-17 21:49

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
I'm confused, there's people saying 3UK sims work, and others saying they don't???

spunko2010 2009-12-17 21:55

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pn51 (Post 411525)
Do you know what Firmware your N900 is using?
My N900 left the Netherlands yesterday and I hope my 3UK (Contract SIM) will work. Thanks

And did it??

pn51 2009-12-17 22:01

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spunko2010 (Post 432542)
And did it??

Unfortunately id did not!

I am assuming the problem relates to the manufacturer of the SIM card rather than the age of the SIM.

It would appear that some users with old SIMS still have the rejection issue.

Paul.

Keir 2009-12-17 22:45

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
This thread has reports of UK 3 SIMs working :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keir (Post 432534)

Quote:

Originally Posted by inzimam (Post 432487)
I've been using my 3 Sim card here in the UK since I got the phone.

My sim card is about 5 years old though.

Voice, text, web all work fine?

Quote:

Originally Posted by inzimam (Post 432550)
Yup, no issues at all. In fact the N900 shows better reception than my N97.

No MMS though or Video calls which is a shame since they are included in my price plan and I did use them before!




ShutUpYouFace 2009-12-18 02:09

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
I'm using a 3 sim card with my N900. Everything on it works fine, including data, calls, sms, skype, gtalk etc. Gets a good 3.5G connection too. Can't fault it tbh.

When I first put my sim in 3 sms'd me the settings automatically and the phone offered to install them..

JR99 2009-12-18 02:16

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ShutUpYouFace (Post 432807)
I'm using a 3 sim card with my N900. Everything on it works fine, including data, calls, sms, skype, gtalk etc. Gets a good 3.5G connection too. Can't fault it tbh.

When I first put my sim in 3 sms'd me the settings automatically and the phone offered to install them..

Are you using 3 UK sim and is the N900 an UK model or US and other countries?:)

spunko2010 2009-12-18 12:27

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
Just put in my 3 sim into the N900 - Sim Card Rejected. :(

spunko2010 2009-12-18 12:54

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
ALso just tried updating the firmware through the Mac, (as Nokia PC suite / nokia software update doesn't work unless the sim card is accepted) but this doesn't work still. How come it's marked as fixed if it isn't?

pelago 2009-12-18 13:09

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Keir (Post 432532)
I'm confused, there's people saying 3UK sims work, and others saying they don't???

Some 3 SIMs work, some don't.

bonerp 2009-12-18 13:54

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
Sorry can someone confirm, is there new firmware that fixes the 3 sim car problem? Mine isn't working. My Sim is less than 2 years old on their flex T type contract, £180 per month for £26 (£35 less a discount).
If there is a FW fix, how does one download it?

pelago 2009-12-18 13:54

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
No new firmware yet. When there is one, your device will notify you automatically.

spunko2010 2009-12-18 16:15

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
I'm not prepared to wait for Nokia to release this fix, as I doubt they'll do it over Christmas break. Is there a way to do it manually via the X Terminal?

Otherwise I guess I'll just end my Three contract and get a PAC code to go elsewhere. The fact that it's marked as fixed in the Bug tracker is slightly frustrating.


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