Re: ScummVM on N900
 

I don't see any reason for not to push it to extras-testing (or at least extras-devel) even if you haven't tested it in device by yourself. This way you can get more early feedback.

Re: ScummVM on N900
 

Sound like a good idea in theory, but I'm not sure how this would work in reality. I fear of a lot of wasted time on both sides when going this way. But anyway, if you think so, I can put it to extras-devel/testing and see what happens :-)

Re: ScummVM on N900
 

If it doesn't work it's found out real soon. But if it works, bugs can be found earlier and the final version is ready earlier :)

I'm all for extras-testing, after all that's why it's there.

edit: I hope that it's optified

Re: ScummVM on N900
 

I can do the smoke test after you've uploaded it to extras-devel. After that it's good to go to extras-testing

Re: ScummVM on N900
 

Monkey Island 3 ran with good sound but slightly low frame-rate on my Xperia X1. So it makes sense it would work perfectly on N900, even as it stands now which is presumably unoptimised. Oddly it ran worse on my iPod Touch 2G which should be identical specs, not to mention its completely unusable on a small capacitive screen with no keyboard.

I had a lot of problems with the 3" screen size though and keyboard mapping, I found it too awkward to use. Will be interesting to see if the N900 is any better for that.

I really want to play the original Sam & Max though, after completing the new ones on Xbox 360. It just looks aweful on a modern monitor so the small screen would actually help reduce the nastiness of the low resolution.

Re: ScummVM on N900
 

Hi! I was in wrong!

'.' works well! I don't know why never worked before (maybe fn locked).

I'm uploading 2 video on youtube... wow :D

Re: ScummVM on N900
 

Hi!
ScummVM on N900 is amazing! Look at these videos I recorded some minutes ago:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHUcij6kFz0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9NbpXakLw0

:)

Re: ScummVM on N900
 

OK, thanks. Few questions first for finalizing basic key bindings:
Do the zoom/volume keys work fine or they are eaten by system? In scummvm on N810/N900 zoom- should be right click, zoom+ should be menu in most games. Is the camera button eaten too or available? I guess it should produce F9 or F10. Does the Enter key produce Return or KP_Enter? It is KP_Enter on N810. Apart from those F keys (zoom, camera) I guess shift+enter and shift+backspace or shift left/right arrows could be mapped to something (escape, menu).

Re: ScummVM on N900
 

Volume buttons are eaten by the system (they control volume) unless something is done (I don't know what). I guess that camera button is the same case, but I haven't checked. Enter is KP_ENTER. I think that backspace is the most logical key for escape.

Re: ScummVM on N900
 

Except that deleting text in text entries (mostly saved games) would produce unexpected results.

Re: ScummVM on N900
 

Ah yes, forgot that you might need to type in some games :)

Some of the combos is fine. Ctrl+backspace is reserved for task switching.

Re: ScummVM on N900
 

Full Throttle: I'm not able to switch punch / kick... how to do? :(

Video from start
Video from fight

Re: ScummVM on N900
 

Haven't played FT myself but I think you need right mouse click. So no problem, right click is mapped to Tab or zoom+ or dpad center ... oh wait none of them work on N900 ;) You can try Enter key but I guess it won't work. Looks like you need to wait few days for missing key mappings.

Re: ScummVM on N900
 

Think of the power button on the N800/N810... except, a D-Bus signal is emitted when half-pressing it.

http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/...ng_volume_keys - GDK oriented; not sure of SDL specifics.

Re: ScummVM on N900
 

Perfect! Thank you! :)
Enter key doesn't do anything.

I noticed that if I don't touch display for a while it goes to "power saving mode", there is a way to set it always on?

Re: ScummVM on N900
 

Thanks, the first part looks X11 oriented, I need to set _HILDON_ZOOM_KEY_ATOM for the window. There already is similar code (setting different atom) so this looks easy. Let's hope that's all for volume/zoom keys.

EDIT: Yes, it is easy, confirmation also here http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/..._Zoom_Out_keys

Re: ScummVM on N900
 

I usually hate when volume keys do something else than change volume. But on the other hand there isn't much keys available without opening the keyboard (well I keep the keyboard always open when using the device)

Re: ScummVM on N900
 

Hi All,

I shall be getting my hands on my N900 tomorrow night and one of the first things I'd love to do is install ScummVM and install MI1, 2 & 3.

I'm a complete Maemo noob, so just had a quick scan through this thread.

Firstly, am I right in thinking I simply download the .deb file (in Linux speak are .deb files similar to .exe files that install/setup a program?) then install it via X-Terminal?

Secondly, does this automatically add it to my Apps Menu ?(therefore allowing me to add a shortcut on my desktop?)

Finally, how safe is it for a Maemo noob to do this? (I'm not going to be installing stuff "willy nilly" unless it's via the "proper" repositories through the App Manager - but ScummVM and maybe one or two others would be an exception to the rule)

One more side question actually, slightly off topic, but I have read (but don't fully understand) that maemo5 apps need to be "optified" otherwise you'll probably run out of safe for app pretty quick, do I need to worry about htis when install ScummVM, via this method?

Many thanks in advance, for answering any of the above questions.

Re: ScummVM on N900
 

yes, you can install it via console (get the rootsh app first)

yes you will see an icon in the apps(more) menu and you will be able to place it onto the desktop like every other app

but just to be clear, you won't be able to save or do anything that requires proper key mapping as there is no built that fully supports the n900 yet!

hope that helps

Re: ScummVM on N900
 

Maybe the proximity sensor can be used for a right click modifier?

Re: ScummVM on N900
 

Hi that's wonderful help, thanks. Shame about the saving and key mapping, but most games are "point-and-click" surely? so the key mappings aren't that important?

Any ideas when a "proper" N900 version will be out? Or is just a case of it'll be done when it's done?

Thanks again.

Re: ScummVM on N900
 

This is a great idea! That sensor is in perfect place and easy to operate for this purpose! The right clicking is quite critical, in Broken Sword you miss some of the feel because you cannot actually just look at the objects.

There is another problem concerning Broken Sword 1. The inventory bar opens in top of the screen. Even when playing in full screen mode and trying to handle the first object in inventory bar, the N900 application menu is triggered although it is not visible on screen.

One more thing is that there is no working escape-button in ScummVM. It would be nice to be able to skip the intro movies and whatever is skippable.

Re: ScummVM on N900
 

Well, the sensor already have a purpose. By covering it you will change display brightness. I'm fine with it (as I will disable this feature anyway) but it is too hackish. Could be extra tool outside of scummvm similar to camera button hack.

EDIT: oh, maybe proximity sensor is different from ambient light sensor? Then it would make sense indeed.

Yes, that's indeed quite bad and I fear there is no easy way to disable it. Maybe screen should be aligned to right to avoid it but it will look strange. Could be solved by filling the space on the left with some sort of virtual keyboard :-)

Re: ScummVM on N900
 

Yes, exactly. I hope I will have some first version fully usable on N900 by the end of this week.

BTW, my N900 is currently on the way from Finland to me. Today arrived at DHL facility in Czech Republic so I will have it today or tomorrrow :-) Woohoo!

Re: ScummVM on N900
 

congratulations to a new proud owner and thanks for putting in the effort to get us our beloved scummvm :)

Re: ScummVM on N900
 

Yeah, forgot to mention; it would be nice to have ScummVM disable screen saver / screen dimming when it is running (or, when it is executing a game).

Re: ScummVM on N900
 

Can someone tell me how to apply the diff patch please?

Re: ScummVM on N900
 

They are quite different. See manual for more details on the proximity sensor
And maybe this thread (and/or it's creator) can give you some more pointers on where to start
I'd like to help more, but, well, i'm not that good :(

Re: ScummVM on N900
 

You mean you want to recompile it from source? I am not sure what you want since I think those who are able to install SDK and recompile it should have no problem with applying a patch. Anyway It is patch -p1 <path/to/patchfile when run from toplevel scummvm source directory, patch is inside backend/platform/maemo/ (typing from memory). It is also described in the README in toplevel directory.

BTW, got the device yesterday and getting familiar with it now. Everything works fine so far, I'm happy I haven't got a lemon.

Re: ScummVM on N900
 

Regarding the proximity sensor: how the right button modifier is done? (Sorry, I didn't dig through the whole thread :) )

The question is, if this can be done externally (i.e. proximity sensor daemon sending an event/emulating a key press) or does this require changes in the application?

Re: ScummVM on N900
 

Yes, it can be done externally too. Maemo specific keymappings are done in addition to original ones (unless there is conflict) so if you can generate right mouse click event, it is OK. This would be helpful also for other software (VNC viewer?). For ScummVM I am currently thinking about using zoom keys like it is used on N810 - right zoom is right click, left is menu key. Still not sure about escape.

Re: ScummVM on N900
 

Sorry if I have misunderstood - I presumed the file here http://www.tuug.fi/~toni/serendipity...-updated!.html
needed to be patched with the diff file?
Anyway I have installed this version http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/s...l.deb?download and it's working great with the monkey island games and indy FOA

Re: ScummVM on N900
 

Hi All,

Just a quick question, once I've downloaded and installed from the 2nd link in the post above. Is it really easy to uninstall, when/if a "proper" version makes it to the Extras Repo? Is it one simple command in X-Term?

Many thanks for you help, again, I know us Maemo/Linux noobs must be doing your heads in, but we all have to start somewhere.

Dex

Re: ScummVM on N900
 

@fanoush, I have a daemon to poll the sensor (supports vibration feedback, stopping when the keyboard is blocked), which soon will be part of a daemon used for shortcuts.
You tell me how you would like to use it (i.e. what it should emit when ScummVM is running) and we will include that :)

Re: ScummVM on N900
 

I'm trying to install the -3 version but it keeps asking for libflac8, libmad0 and libvorbisidec1. Where can I find these libs?

Re: ScummVM on N900
 

When using the proximity Sensor for right click it should be possible to use volume - for esc and volume + for menu.

But a earlier post here suggests a good solution. The N900 screen aspect ratio is not 4:3. So I guess we have at all scummVM games a black unused space on one or booth sides. So why don't put there a ESC, Menu and other Buttons on the left and F1 to F12 on the right side?

You have not to hold ESC and click somewhere on the screen on the same time. So multitouch is for this not needed. In this case you can let the volume keys be volume keys. I would like this. ;)
The only thing you need in the same time is the right click modifier. Map this to the proximity sensor AND to the camera Button will cover the full functionallity for left- and righthanded people. :)

In my opinion this could be the best solution. What do you think about it?

Re: ScummVM on N900
 

Good idea!

Re: ScummVM on N900
 

Just instal this version - http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/s...l.deb?download

Works straight away without any need for other files and saving works fine too. Just remember to uninstall the other version first.
When you add games the folder path to root is /home/user/MyDocs

Re: ScummVM on N900
 

yep, I guess that's the best solution

Re: ScummVM on N900
 

I think this is a good idea, and I thought the same the first time I used ScummVM on my N810. I think it would be ideal if the buttons were game specific, as different games use different buttons. For the right-click modifier, that could be done with a "sticky" onscreen button (i.e. tap the button once, then tap the screen for right-click), although I think there should also be a hardware modifier key available too.